Skip to comments.Fan Wants Apology from Davis; Knicks Player Says No
Posted on 01/20/2006 4:50:19 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
The fan accused of harassing the wife of New York Knicks forward Antonio Davis will drop threats of a lawsuit if the couple says it's sorry, the man's attorney said Friday.
No way, Davis said.
"I'm not apologizing to anybody for anything," Davis said on a conference call. "I don't think that my wife did anything wrong, I don't think that I did anything wrong."
Axelrod's [the Fan's] father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley.
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I'm about ready to dash off a letter to the NBA telling them they went WAY overboard in suspending Davis for 5 days.
You think Davis is the good guy?
Have you seen the video? The guy in the stands was just sitting there and Davis's wife went berserk and jumped up and got in his face. The guy was the one that called security, not Davis's wife.
It doesn't matter who this guy is--you don't need some player's wife jumping up and hitting you in the face during a basketball game.
His wife has a history of getting in other people's faces. Players are supposed to be severely fined and/or suspended for going into the stands.
I saw the tape. She was up screaming n his face while he was signaling for security.
Democrat or not. I hope he sues this overpaid moron AND the NBA.
A dimocrap, harassing a woman and suing thereafter claiming victimhood after the woman's husband "looks" at him??? Too good to be true. They cannot make up stuff like this!
The wife only turned around AFTER the verbal abuse - profanity, etc, etc. Been there and done that, in another forum and another situation.
Apparently this is a mother-nuturing thing for you.
You climb into the stands, you get sued or jailed. Period.
Did the video you refer to show the wife hitting the guy in the face, as you say?
Got a link for that?
Agreed the white dude was being the ass, and only quieted down after the black woman got all up in his grill. He knew to sit down and shutup when her husband came up there. To Davis' credit, he didn't show up throwing haymakers. His wife may be a loudmouth, but it is his wife. Kudos to him for standing up for his family. The rich white Democrat needs a a'whooping.
We can look at the whole tape and ask what Davis would have done if he had perfect information. But he didn't. He saw the possibility that she might be in trouble. A good man stands up for his wife. Maybe it was a mistake, but no one was hurt. The whole matter should just be dropped.
WHy would he call security? Doesn't pass the smell test.
Can anyone post a link to the video? I've seen it dozens of times, albeit while drinking coffee and changing diapers early this am.... IIRC the video doesn't show what the initial cause was.
I honestly can't remember; I haven't seen the video in a number of days and I've looked for it on the Internet for a minute and I couldn't find it. Regardless, the video supports the fan's version of the story.
You wouldn't call security if you're sitting in the stands and a stranger gets into your face and starts yelling and sticking her finger into your face and hitting you?
The son better get back on Hillary's plantation before he is exposed as a racist!
Do you know for a fact that he was not yelling obscenities within earshot of the players children, (as has been reported/).
He probably was, I don't have a reason to doubt that. That sort of stuff happens a lot at sporting events. Pretty much every game I go to, actually.
Well first of all, why did the woman get into his face and start yelling, sticking finger in face and hitting? There must be a reason. People don't do that without a reason.
Secondly, I would not call security unless unless I feared for my safety or I thought I needed to make a huge deal of her actions in order to obscure my own.
A grown man does not call security on a screaming lady.
The guy who goes into the stands and begins beating up a rowdy fan gets 7 days... and this guy gets 5 days?
And then the harasser wants the woman's husband to make a donation to a charity that tries to prevent violence against women and children!
Where do they find these people?
and they say the republican act like they own a plantation
I don't know why people get into other peoples' faces and start yelling. I don't do that, I don't know what possesses other people to do that. In a civilized society, people don't do that.
But she did. And you wouldn't have called security, but I would have if I would have been him. I don't like people to get in my face and yell at me. I might not have called security right away--I probably would have told her to sit down and shut up, but if she didn't, sure--I'd call security. Just because you're a woman doesn't mean you get a free pass and go around acting like an ass.
Oh, I dunno, maybe a pompous 22-year old spoiled child of a corrupt Democrat cussing and being obnoxious around her children? In a civilized society, people don't do that. It is a public venue, you do NOT have a right to cuss up a storm, no matter how much you paid for your ticket. Act like a brat and a woman may treat you like a brat.
No, he probably shouldn't have been cursing, if he was. But, two wrongs don't make a right--and it's not like it's unexpected; I'm sure that she hears it ALL THE TIME. I hear it all the time when I go to a sporting event, and I don't even go all that often.
I walk down the street and I hear people cursing. Should they be cursing? No, it's rude--do I get in their face and yell at them? Don't do that either. At the office I hear secretaries cursing. Should they? No. Do I yell at them and stick my finger in their face? Nope, don't do that either.
The possibilities are endless. The likelihood is that the guy was using foul and/or bigoted language directed toward this lady's husband.
Again, as if this isn't an every night occurrence in the NBA? Even if he was cursing and yelling at the players or her husband, that doesn't excuse her reaction. She was wrong.
What, hecklers in a basketball game? No...
I saw the video when it first came out but did not see her striking him in the face. She looked like she was giving him what-for though for some reason and that is what we don't know....what happened/what was said prior to the camera turning on them.
It is one thing to cuss around adults, and quite another to cuss around other people's kids. Plus you have no idea what he said, it could have been pretty vile. Whether cussing or vile talk is becoming common at games is irrelevant, it is still inexcusable, no matter how much you try to make excuses for it. Frankly I'm fed up with boorishness in public, and tell someone to pipe down whenever they start up with the cursing. Good for her for confronting him if that indeed was the case.
Sounds like you don't get out in public much.
As I said before, two wrongs don't make a right. Whether you think it's boorish for people to curse in public, people do. That's just the way it is.
She did what she did and now she's getting sued. She can deal with the consequences.
Like I said, I don't remember; but he said that she hit him and given the Davis's initial version of the story and his initial version of the story and the video, he certainly seems to be the more credible of the lot. Moreover, offering to drop the suit in exchange for an apology also bolsters his credibility in my mind.
As you note, we don't know what happened before the camera was on him--my guess is that he was heckling the players, and I think he admitted as much when he was talking about things afterword. Like I said before, though, that doesn't excuse her reaction--she was out of line, and now she (and her husband) are paying the price.
As I remember it Antonio Davis was a real clean kid when he played at UTEP.
In the Demo-crap party. Michael Axelrod's father, David, is a MAJOR player in Dem political campaigns.
But I sure would tell them how unprofessional that kind of behavior is and report it to their superior(s).
I can't wait to hear what she has to say about David Axelrod's kid's behavior. This is gonna get really good!
I don't mind Davis; I kind of like him, actually--I'm a Pacers fan going way back, but I just think they were wrong here.
But five games is about right, and it should have been about what Artest got last year too, in my opinion.
If it is an every night occurrence, why did either of them cause this mess? Messes like this aren't an every night occurrenc in the NBA.
Something is obviously different and exceptional about this situation.
Calling a player the N word with some other unpleasant adjectives would not be "heckling", and doing so repeatedly after being asked to stop is not "heckling", and continuing to do it in front of the recipient's children and wife are not "heckling" either. We don't know exactly what he did, but we can be assured is wasn't simple, everyday heckling.
Heckling is indeed an everyday occurrence in the NBA, which is one of the reasons this is obviously not heckling - unless the woman is a mentally ill, violent freak... which she may be!
I'm laughing till my sides hurt since you put it that way!!
We can? How?
All we know is that she went ape. That's not normal behavior. We also know that the Davis's version of the story, is, at best, suspect.
I think the only reason most of you are jumping all over this guy is because his old man is a democratic fund-raiser. If he would have been a run of the mill fan, I imagine that the point of view of a lot of folks on here would be different.
Why do you think that?
What exactly does he do - knock her on her butt?
Because I see that as general attitude on this site--and even look no further than this thread--how many people have been bringing up that this guy (or, more accurately, his old man) is a Democrat. Does that have anything to do with who's right or wrong?
I may be wrong about this; there's obviously no way of knowing, but it's my suspicion.
Perhaps your suspicions should be focused on those individuals.
I don't care who his dad is. I think he got drunk and screwed up.
I wasn't focusing my statement at you--just in general.
But I also think it's clear now that he wasn't drunk--Davis said that he was, but I've heard that wasn't the case.
As you noted...the article says:
"Axelrod's father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley."
Where is the video???>
That's not true Pub. I had stated my thoughts in an earlier thread and did not know it until this article. But I have not see any video of her striking the man, as you say. All I have seen was her getting in his face verbally. Now, why would she do that without reason....even if she is a hellion. I believe he was most likely deliberately antagonizing her any way he could just for the attention. I would bet he is embarrassed and trying to cover after he saw the tape.......probably taking a lot of ragging from his friends - thus the lawsuit threat, etc.
It's just fitting and more than a bit ironic, imo, that this heckler has turned out to be the son of one of the major Dem operatives in the entire country, that's all.
"Where is the video???>"
Try this link. Go to the column on this page that says video on demand. Scroll to "Knicks player jumps into stands to defend wife." The entire video is a pretty through account of everything.