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A Hard Kick From John Wayne's Gun
New York Times ^ | January 21, 2006 | STACEY STOWE

Posted on 01/21/2006 3:25:46 AM PST by Pharmboy


Douglas Healey for The New York Times

Unless a rescue plan is worked out or a new buyer comes forward, the gun-manufacturing plant in New Haven, with about
200 employees, will close on March 31.

Come spring, the Winchester rifle, immortalized as the gun that won the West and rode into the sunset with John Wayne, will be made in Portugal and Japan.

The U.S. Repeating Arms Company, which has manufactured rifles and shotguns in New Haven since 1866, is set to shut its doors on March 31. About 200 people will lose their jobs, many having worked for decades on the plant's assembly line.

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Paul DeMennato, a company spokesman, did not provide production and sales numbers, but the New Haven mayor's office released a statement saying that only 80,000 guns had been produced at the plant last year. The factory is capable of producing 300,000 a year.

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"I still have my dad's guns. These products don't have a built-in obsolescence."

The Winchester repeating rifle became the gun of choice for Western settlers after it was introduced in 1866, Mr. DeMennato said. The lever-action breech mechanism allowed the user to fire a number of shots before having to reload.snip

"Instead of saying, 'Get me my gun,' he'd say, 'Get me my Winchester,' " Mr. DeMennato said.

A 10-foot-high bronze statute of Wayne, eyes narrowed in concentration and left hand clutching a Winchester, stands in the lobby of the New Haven plant. On the wall behind it are the mounted heads of a stag and wild boar and a turkey in its entirety.

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Connecticut has a history of firearm production with companies like Colt's Manufacturing in Hartford; Sturm, Ruger in Fairfield; and Marlin Firearms in North Haven.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Japan; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guns; johnwayne; manufcturing; rifles; shotguns; winchester
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To: Pharmboy
Unless a rescue plan is worked out or a new buyer comes forward, the gun-manufacturing plant in New Haven, with about 200 employees, will close on March 31.

I wonder if CZUSA would be interested in yet another American Firearms company? They bought Dan Wesson last year.

21 posted on 01/21/2006 4:17:05 AM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: DustyMoment
This is the result of anti-gun nutjobs who have repeatedly assaulted the firearms industry. With the legislation allowing victims to sue gun manufacturers for the acts committed by gun-wielding murderers. When we allow the courts to impose draconian punishments on innocent businesses, People lose their jobs and factories go elsewhere.

Moving your manufacturing site to a different country does not preclude you from lawsuits involving the use of your product.

22 posted on 01/21/2006 4:24:30 AM PST by opinionator
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To: GadareneDemoniac
LOL

Leni

23 posted on 01/21/2006 4:27:34 AM PST by MinuteGal (Ahoy there! - "FReeps Ahoy 4" will embark for the Caribbean. The cruise thread is up and running!)
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To: Pharmboy

The leftist tick sucks another host dead.


24 posted on 01/21/2006 4:34:32 AM PST by Leisler ("For English, please press two.")
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To: opinionator
Moving your manufacturing site to a different country does not preclude you from lawsuits involving the use of your product.

Perhaps not, but it precludes the dimwits in the Congress from being able to do anything but ban the product from foreign imports. In essence, it renders any trial activity relatively pointless.
25 posted on 01/21/2006 4:39:38 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Pharmboy

I've got an 1892 Winchester down in my shop for repair due to a broken spring. Darned thing is only 106 years old and and it already needs work!


26 posted on 01/21/2006 4:42:43 AM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: 230FMJ

If you write them, they might replace the spring...free.


27 posted on 01/21/2006 4:45:48 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

It was a cool gun. It is outclassed by modern firearms, though. This like being upset that a flintlock will no longer be made.

What saddens me is that they are closing the plant. If I had the money, I would buy the plant and re-tool it to make the best modern firearms possible.


28 posted on 01/21/2006 4:49:39 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: willyd
I wonder if this is another Union victory.

Either that, or liability or both....

29 posted on 01/21/2006 5:03:38 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: willyd; Dustbunny; Thermalseeker
The move to close the factory comes almost a year after the International Association of Machinists signed a three-year contract with USRAC in which they agreed to several concessions in an attempt to keep the company in New Haven. Many of those workers, meeting at the Italian American Independent Club in Hamden Tuesday, said they are disappointed and frustrated by the decision.
30 posted on 01/21/2006 5:10:00 AM PST by raybbr (ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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To: Sensei Ern
" If I had the money, I would buy the plant and re-tool it to make the best modern firearms possible."

Thats what Marlin did when they built the MR-7 bolt action rifle, they put so much into the quality of the rifles that they couldn't sell them at even a break-even price.

They only made those for a few years.

Damn fine rifles if you can find a used one.
31 posted on 01/21/2006 5:13:44 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Sensei Ern
"What saddens me is that they are closing the plant. If I had the money, I would buy the plant and re-tool it to make the best modern firearms possible."

That would be nice. Maybe reopen to make M1 Garands for the people of the US to help rebuild the old militias of the past.
32 posted on 01/21/2006 5:20:41 AM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you!)
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To: Thermalseeker

I thought the ability to sue gun manufacturers for crime in your area was struck down recently. I think it was the unions....isn't it obvious that unions have cost more Americans jobs than anyone else? It seems like every company that has a union these days recieves some sort of handout from the Federal government in order to continue to exist. The airlines were bailed out and are still facing bankrupcy in some cases because of this union or that. Don't the wokers understand that businesses exist to make a profit? If you erode that opportunity enough, companies will fold or seek the next best idea (usually somewhere with a less oppressive tax system). Outsourcing isn't the issue, it's a fact of life with a global economy. Unions are the issue if you ask me.


33 posted on 01/21/2006 6:01:28 AM PST by willyd (No nation has ever taxed its citizens into prosperity)
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To: Pharmboy

While the article never states it, it does say repeating rifle so I assume they are Model 94's. Miroku has been building the 1885's for decades and I thought I was the only one that complained. Just wait until the new 94's roll off the line with pencil thin barrels and pimp shined stocks.


34 posted on 01/21/2006 6:11:19 AM PST by 03A3
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To: willyd

IMHO, its a result of the management and bean counters running amok. The latest fad, short magnums, was an answer to a question nobody asked.There are gun makers who are doing just fine in America...


35 posted on 01/21/2006 6:25:44 AM PST by chadwimc
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To: Pharmboy

bump


36 posted on 01/21/2006 6:33:43 AM PST by VOA
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To: Sensei Ern

Hornady just came out with a polymer tipped spitzer in .30-30, .45-70, 450 Marlin, .444 Marlin that will keep the lever actions going another 150 years. Makes [according to the reviews] a .30-30 a 250 yd. rifle. Takes a .45-70 zeroed at 100 yds., and reduces the bullet drop at 300 yds. from 9' to 25".

Lever guns are the best brush guns in the business. More deer have probably been dropped with .30-30s than any other caliber.


37 posted on 01/21/2006 6:58:10 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Pharmboy

Winchester will continue to build shotguns. They are also discontinuing their model 70 bolt actions. This is probably because Winchester is owned by the same company that owns Browning. Browning will be the company that makes the bolt actions.Looks more like bean counting than anything else.


38 posted on 01/21/2006 7:01:25 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr
Winchester should come out with a shotgun built on the Browning patent for the old Auto-5 if both company's are owned by the same parent company.

Both Remington and Savage have purchased the rights to do so in the past and sold a bunch of them.

It would give Browning the ability to build a slightly cheaper model of the same gun, without cheapening the Browning name.
39 posted on 01/21/2006 8:42:33 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I have my share of Winchesters. I am sorry to see this plant close.

Same, same.

40 posted on 01/21/2006 8:44:13 AM PST by Osage Orange (Why does John McCain always look like a mule eating cockleburrs?)
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