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Roe Babies and Reagan Babies
The Post Chronicle ^ | 1/21/06 | Hans Zeige

Posted on 01/21/2006 8:54:16 AM PST by RepublicNewbie

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21 posted on 01/21/2006 9:49:50 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: apackof2
Let's not forget the arguments *for* abortion, back in the day, focused on abused, helpless women and poverty. My generation (X) sees that women have access to free (or nearly free) birth control, welfare, and tons of other resources for them and their children. Many of our mothers were single moms who managed to raise us.

Reality undercut the picture libs were painting and we know it's more than possible for a single mom to raise kids or to avoid getting pregnant in the first place. Abortion looks like a barbaric alternative to us.

22 posted on 01/21/2006 10:06:51 AM PST by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: Conservomax
The flood of abortion since Roe has very odd cultural ramifications, while I am pro life, I can't help but take some stock in the notion that lower crime rates are due to increased abortion rates.

I just knew someone would go there.


This is a ch__ch. What's missing?

23 posted on 01/21/2006 10:07:59 AM PST by rdb3 (What it is is what it was.)
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To: Conservomax
I can't help but take some stock in the notion that lower crime rates are due to increased abortion rates.

Unacceptable. I personally have a lot of doubt in their theory that more abortions = lower crime rate. "Lower crime rate" is a PATHETIC excuse for genocide of 45,000,000 human beings in the United States alone.

Furthermore, it has increased the percentage of children being born into stable families which leads to the phenomenon discussed in this article.

HUUUUUUUUUUH? What do you consider a "stable family"? According to the chart below, the number of children born to unmarried mothers has RISEN (significantly) since Roe v. Wade. I consider a stable family to include a married male & female, not unmarried females.


24 posted on 01/21/2006 10:08:15 AM PST by xrp
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To: RockinRight
Technically, I'm a "Carter Baby" as I was born in Aug. 77.

Nixon baby here (December 1971).


This is a ch__ch. What's missing?

25 posted on 01/21/2006 10:09:42 AM PST by rdb3 (What it is is what it was.)
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To: Marie

If younger people are against abortion, seems to me the issue is solved, right? I'm a Boomer, and we're mostly not having babies any more, so if the younger generation is against abortion, presumably they're not having them.


26 posted on 01/21/2006 10:09:43 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: RepublicNewbie

45 million divided by 34 years = 1,323,529 babies killed per year… and still counting. Innocent, defenseless human beings snuffed out at the beginning of their lives. I fail to see how some consider this a good thing.


27 posted on 01/21/2006 10:11:08 AM PST by auboy
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To: apackof2
Virtue Media broadcasts a pro-life television advertisement which educates the public concerning the millions of children who are missing because they have been aborted.

The name of the commercial is "Vanished".

(The couple in the photo are my daughter and son-in-law. My two other daughters also starred as members of the "wedding party", and [ahem] I played the "priest')

28 posted on 01/21/2006 10:13:50 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: rdb3; RockinRight
Technically, I'm a "Carter Baby" as I was born in Aug. 77.
Nixon baby here (December 1971).

Ford baby, here. At least Poland was free, woops nevermind.

29 posted on 01/21/2006 10:14:16 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("You should move the team Art" - then Governor Voinovich)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
So, since these people believe in abortion on demand, they'll also be the FIRST to euthanize themselves when they all get very old and/or ill, right?

That's the way it SHOULD be--if they were consistent. Many will change their minds when they're on the receiving end of "choice." However, if any children they did have learned their lessons from those "pro-choice" parents, then those children may find nothing wrong with disposing of those "inconvenient" elders. After all, it's their (the kids') choice too, isn't it??

/sarcasm. Pro-abortion boomers really have done a number on themselves. They may learn the hard way that ALL decisions/actions have consequences-whether they realize it at the time of the decision or not.

30 posted on 01/21/2006 10:16:15 AM PST by Prov3456
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To: Prov3456

Most liberals I ever (I'm cringing here) engage in conversation with usually come up speechless when I ask them "hey, would you ever perform a post-birth abortion on yourself?"


31 posted on 01/21/2006 10:18:53 AM PST by xrp
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To: Jeff Chandler

Very interesting ad concept! :) However, here in the DC area, it would just get people picturing what life would be like with 33% MORE traffic on the roads around here! =:O


32 posted on 01/21/2006 10:19:11 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003
This does apear to be the case.

First: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/03facts/pregbirths.htm

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"From 1990 to 1999, there was a 9-percent decline in the birth rate (from 70.9 to 64.4 births per 1,000 women aged 15-44) and a 22-percent drop in the abortion rate (27.4 to 21.4), with an overall 12 percent decline in the pregnancy rate from 115.6 to 102.1. These trends and other findings are outlined in a new report issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which updates and revises pregnancy rates from 1990 to 1999 to include the latest abortion data for 1999."

And second: http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2003/10/31/1820/

(snip)

"Pregnancies fell 7 percent, from 6.78 million in 1990 to 6.28 million in 1999. The birth rate declined 9 percent in that time, from 70.9 to 64.4 births per 1,000 women ages 15 to 44. And the abortion rate went down 22 percent, from 27.4 to 21.4 abortions per 1,000 women."

And, if there were some way we could take New York out of the equation, the picture would be even more dramatic. I cannot *believe* that city aborts 40% of their babies! Insanity.

33 posted on 01/21/2006 10:21:35 AM PST by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That's a really well-done video. Good job! (and your daughter is a lovely young woman, BTW!)


34 posted on 01/21/2006 10:27:37 AM PST by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: RepublicNewbie

I'm a Reagan baby, even though the first six months of my life Carter was President. But I cried most of that time, lest any doubt my allegiance.


35 posted on 01/21/2006 10:31:33 AM PST by PioneerDrive (Don't fence me in.)
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To: Marie
Thank you! The guy who produced the commercial is Tom Peterson, President of Virtue Media. Tom also heads a national advertising firm which specializes in conservative causes, but his first love is saving babies.
36 posted on 01/21/2006 10:33:19 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: dubyaismypresident; RockinRight; rdb3; Dan Nunn; randog; Mom MD
Carter, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Kennedy - Oh you kids!

But this got me to clear up a misconception about my own self. I always thought of myself as an Eisenhower baby, but if he was elected in Nov. '52, then that makes me (Feb '52) a Truman old-timer. I guess you could say I started where the buck stopped.

37 posted on 01/21/2006 10:34:46 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: joshhiggins

LOL! Good point. ;)


38 posted on 01/21/2006 10:35:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Prov3456

Yep. They really don't get it, do they?


39 posted on 01/21/2006 10:36:37 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Marie
your daughter is a lovely young woman

My first grandson might have been in that video, too. My daughters' wedding party was recruited for the commercial because she had gotten married four months earlier, and everyone still had the gowns and fit into them. She might have been a week or two along at the time the commercial was shot.

40 posted on 01/21/2006 10:39:57 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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