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Boy scouts cutting public ties, Fear lawsuits over 'God' in oath
NorthJersey.com ^ | 01.20.06 | DEENA YELLIN

Posted on 01/21/2006 1:03:05 PM PST by Coleus

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Position Statement: Support Our Scouts Act

1 posted on 01/21/2006 1:03:08 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
The ACLU has argued that government sponsorship - which includes funding - of the Boy Scout troops violates the constitutional guarantee of religious freedom because the Scouts swear an oath that includes affirming duty to God.

Guess the ACLU has no problem with portraying themselves as nothing but a cult of devil worshipers.

2 posted on 01/21/2006 1:13:18 PM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Coleus

The Boy Scouts are doing the right thing, but it's not what their enemies wanted. They were supposed to cave; kick God out while welcoming homos in.

Sever the ties, shut the aclu up.


3 posted on 01/21/2006 1:16:29 PM PST by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: watchin

I say sever the ACLU lawyers from their.........power.


4 posted on 01/21/2006 1:18:21 PM PST by Loud Mime (Republicans protect Americans from terrorists, Democrats protect terrorists from Americans)
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To: Coleus

Something must be done to stop the terrorism on Americans being conducted by the aCLU.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 1:19:11 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: eskimo

I'll be donating directly to the Boy Scouts now.


6 posted on 01/21/2006 1:19:47 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Simply put: The ACLU has become an anti-American organization. They clearly want the United States as it is currently politically constituted to be abolished by judges with life time tenure.


7 posted on 01/21/2006 1:25:18 PM PST by kjo
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To: Coleus

Actually, it's for the best. The scouts should never have been funded with public monies.


8 posted on 01/21/2006 1:29:26 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Howlin
I'll be donating directly to the Boy Scouts now.

I have been doing so for quite some time now. Their ideals as well as traditional conservative ideals can not be forsaken by those who wish to preserve our constitutional republic.

9 posted on 01/21/2006 1:29:52 PM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Coleus
California-based Scouting for All, a national non-profit educational and advocacy organization, reaches out to gay youth and is trying to get the Boy Scouts to rescind its policy against gays and atheists.

What a revolting development! Is there a web site that takes donations for the BSA? As a former Cub Scout, I will happily give something back to the organization that provided some guidance and fun as a youth.

10 posted on 01/21/2006 1:34:17 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

The ACLU truly has declared war on traditional values. We need more people in a position of power (like Bill O'Reilly) to declare war on them.


11 posted on 01/21/2006 1:38:30 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Coleus

It may be reaching the time when Christians come out of this evil society, governed by godless organizations such as the ACLU. Churches need to study the pattern of the city of Ave Maria, FLA, a Catholic city in the making. There are many dying towns in our agricultural heartland that could be repopulated with Christians who are tired of the ACLU running their schools and their city governments. A few hundred modern day settlers could go to these communities and establish Christan churches and schools. Think of the money that would be saved with no public school taxes to pay and very little crime and no city government to speak of. We really need to separate ourselves from Godless people who drag us down spiritually and economically. We owe it to our children to nurture them in a much more supportive environment for the growth of their faith.


12 posted on 01/21/2006 1:41:29 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

Why is it that I have never, ever heard this argument:

Using common sense, would you put a non-gay man in his 20's in charge of Girl Scouts in their teens (who are becoming young women)? Would you allow this man, who is attracted to women, have the opportunity to possibly see them without clothes while camping? NO, of course not. Common sense says no.
So how come it is ok, by the ACLU's standards, to have a man, who admits to being attracted to males, have the opportunity to be alone with teenage boys (who are becoming men themselves)? See them change and shower at the campsites? The answer should be the same -- NO!

I have never heard anyone discussing on TV or in the newspaper this issue ever make that comparison.


13 posted on 01/21/2006 1:52:37 PM PST by Londo Molari
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To: Londo Molari

excellent point


14 posted on 01/21/2006 2:00:13 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: mtbopfuyn
The "Mainline" churches should follow suit - IMHO.. Too long they have compomised belief and ethics to get a paltry tax benefit for clergy and donators.

Is 30 pcs of silver enough to cause the havoc and internal destruction it causes..??

15 posted on 01/21/2006 2:00:31 PM PST by glowworm ( Liberalism is truly a mental condition...)
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To: Coleus; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Da Jerdge; Looking for Diogenes; ...

Scout Pings!!!!


16 posted on 01/21/2006 2:11:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Howlin

Glad you said that Friends of Scouting Campaign is underway now. Call your local Scout Council to fine out how to Donate. Don't know what the Council is just go to www.scouting.org and it has a Council finder for you.


17 posted on 01/21/2006 2:14:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Go to http://www.scouting.org the National BSA site and your can foind all sorts of information to include the local council nearest you.


18 posted on 01/21/2006 2:16:21 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Howlin
I'll be donating directly to the Boy Scouts now.

That's what I do.

19 posted on 01/21/2006 2:18:10 PM PST by MarMema (He will bring us goodness and Light.)
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Rabbi Robert Scheinberg of the United Synagogue of Hoboken, where the troops meet, objects to the Scouts' anti-gay policies

Which policy is that? The one where responsible adults don't want homosexuals spending the night in small tents with little boys? How unreasonable!

20 posted on 01/21/2006 2:18:11 PM PST by Bernard (Only the US government has the time, money and hubris to calculate exactly what it doesn't know.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
try this link
21 posted on 01/21/2006 2:19:37 PM PST by MarMema (He will bring us goodness and Light.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
" Is there a web site that takes donations for the BSA?"

I'm sure there is a website, yet I hope you'll consider giving to you local troop. I'm sure if you call your local middle school counselor, they could hook you up with the right person. :)

22 posted on 01/21/2006 2:22:31 PM PST by sweet_diane (I support TheShoulder dot org)
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To: SandRat
Friends of Scouting Campaign is underway now.

And so is winter camp! My boys and camp staff daughter are there this weekend, along with my husband. Talk about a quiet house...

23 posted on 01/21/2006 2:24:53 PM PST by MarMema (He will bring us goodness and Light.)
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To: MarMema

I can imagine, even better all the HOT-WATER you want for a looooooooooooonnng soak.


24 posted on 01/21/2006 2:27:43 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
all the HOT-WATER you want for a looooooooooooonnng soak.

Wow. I just did that. You're good!!

This is coming to our house next weekend, btw...


25 posted on 01/21/2006 2:40:11 PM PST by MarMema (He will bring us goodness and Light.)
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Bush is working on that ... Roberts ... Alito ... ?


26 posted on 01/21/2006 2:49:52 PM PST by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: SandRat

Thanks... I'm heading there now.


27 posted on 01/21/2006 2:57:17 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: sweet_diane

Even better idea... thanks!


28 posted on 01/21/2006 2:59:35 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Coleus

Sadly, the Girl Scouts of America on the other hand is a puppet of the ACLU, NARAL, and Planned Parenthood. amoing other things, they have Planned Parenthood speakers at national meetings. Just today I had a girl scout come to my door to sell cookies. I gave her a couple bucks 'for herself' (so she wouldn't be sad) but I told her that I could not buy any cookies.


29 posted on 01/21/2006 3:27:15 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: MarMema
I know what my wife did in those situations, LOL.

Congratulations!!!

Now comes the really tough part for the boys. He'll need to meet with his Scoutmaster and get the Eagle Briefing and find out who his Eagle Advisor will be.

Then He'll need to map out a plan of action for Leadership in the troop, what Merit Badges he has to knock off, come up with an Eagle Project idea, clear it through the SM, the Unit Committte, the District Advancement Chair, then plan it out, execute it, and report it. All before his 18th birthday.

Once that's done there are two actions left the Eagle Board of Review and You getting to plan His Eagle Court of Honor. That's right You get to plan it. Closest the mother of a son comes to planning a wedding.

30 posted on 01/21/2006 4:24:30 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Coleus
The ACLU is focused on half of the First amendment. They are hot to quote the "establishment clause", but they fail to acknowledge the rest.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The mere fact that the ACLU is PAID with taxpayer money for civil rights cases is a violation of the second part of the First Amendment. The law finances an attack on the free exercise of religion with the ACLU attack dogs taking taxpayer money to make the attack. Congress made that law and it is a direct violation when that money is used in this fashion.

31 posted on 01/21/2006 4:49:00 PM PST by Myrddin
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congratulations, the eagle scout award is recognition of not only a scout but his entire family as they have supported him throughout his scouting career.
32 posted on 01/21/2006 5:26:46 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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ping


33 posted on 01/21/2006 5:30:32 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: Coleus

What we need is for the government to stop subsidizing all these frivolous ACLU lawsuits. The GOP needs to grow some balls and do something.


34 posted on 01/21/2006 5:34:23 PM PST by Always Right
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That is a Star scout badge. Still have Life and Eagle to do. My nephew just submitted the last of his paperwork for Eagle this week. He turned 18 on January 20th. If the board of review finds any flaws, he won't have any means of recovery. I'm hoping all goes well.
35 posted on 01/21/2006 5:39:26 PM PST by Myrddin
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This is the one you want on your shirt and your resume.

36 posted on 01/21/2006 5:42:57 PM PST by Myrddin
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Actually, it's for the best. The scouts should never have been funded with public monies.

My troop met in the auditorium of an elementary school. It was sponsored by the PTA. School buildings are available for public meetings during non-school hours. The parents of the scouts in my troop were all taxpayers. It was a legitimate public meeting held off hours. There was no "funding" of the troop with public monies.

Balboa Park Scout camp was leased for $1 per year, but the Scouts paid 100% of the cost of maintaining and improving the property. It was available to the tax paying public to swim at the pool and use the Scout maintained parks. The gays and atheists care nothing about the value of the maintenance and improvements shouldered by the Scouts. They care only about forcing their perversion on the Scouts.

I think the value of the improvements and maintenance of the park should be professionally estimated and the capital gain in improved value should be paid directly to the Scouts as they are evicted to please the gays and atheists. Let that money come from the taxpayers who benefitted from the improvements. The city can deduct that money from funds allocated for gay pride parades, AIDS hospice and other outrageous use of public money.

37 posted on 01/21/2006 5:56:14 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: SandRat

I'm sorry that I have lived to see the day that the Boy Scouts would be fair game for a bunch of maniacs.


38 posted on 01/21/2006 5:57:33 PM PST by Mears
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To: Coleus

Has anyone actually ever sued the ACLU for violating their civil liberties?


39 posted on 01/21/2006 5:59:42 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Mears

May I suggest the book "The ACLU vs. America" to read. It will make you cry, angry, smile, and hopeful. It's well worth the $15 at the local bookstore.


40 posted on 01/21/2006 6:04:45 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: watchin

If I ever win the Lottery, I will buy a LARGE ranch, and I will open it up to any and all Boy/Girl Scouts that wish to gather there.


41 posted on 01/21/2006 6:07:52 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Coleus

BSA bump


42 posted on 01/21/2006 6:09:41 PM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: SandRat

Thanks for the suggestion.

The ACLU is making me nuts,absolutely nuts !


43 posted on 01/21/2006 6:16:51 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

You will be surprised at who some of the "Fellow Travelers" are. Have fun.


44 posted on 01/21/2006 6:23:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Myrddin

Best wishes on a smooth path!


45 posted on 01/21/2006 6:43:55 PM PST by MarMema (He will bring us goodness and Light.)
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To: kublia khan

Oh sorry. He's just making Star, but we take these advances with much excitement all the same.


46 posted on 01/21/2006 6:45:00 PM PST by MarMema (He will bring us goodness and Light.)
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This is the one you want on your shirt and your resume.

That's where my son says he wants it! :-)

Thanks for correcting in my absence.

47 posted on 01/21/2006 6:46:50 PM PST by MarMema (He will bring us goodness and Light.)
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To: Coleus
Who cares?

America loves lawyers and will do anything EXCEPT change this system so this kind of nonsense doesn't happen.

The left found it could use lawyer worship to get it's way.

People will cry and moan, and then just used to it.

Then, the ACLU will move on the next victim.
48 posted on 01/21/2006 6:51:07 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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This legal terrorism by the ACLU against the BSA is as good as ANY reason for modern day civil warfare as I've ever seen. Just like the Confederates at Ft Sumter, NC. We need to fire a few cannon rounds and lay siege to the ACLU headquarters.


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49 posted on 01/21/2006 8:00:23 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Silence is a good fence for wisdom.)
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To: MarMema
I hope my nephew passes the board of review. It would be a very hard life lesson if he fails it. Waiting until the last minute to complete a crucial task and leaving no option to correct a problem is not a strategy for success. My Eagle Scout board of review signed off my certificate on April 12, 1972. I was 15 years old. Plenty of breathing room to address any deficiencies if that came up. I always counsel scouts seeking to be Eagle scouts to get it done early and leave room to solve problems that may arise.
50 posted on 01/21/2006 8:02:11 PM PST by Myrddin
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