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Shooting yourself in the foot (Will Hillary's 'plantation' crack cost her in '06 or '08?)
Sanford Herald ^ | 1/21/06 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 01/21/2006 3:12:24 PM PST by Libloather

Shooting yourself in the foot
By David Limbaugh

Unlike our president, who spent Martin Luther King Day paying respectful tribute to MLK and Abraham Lincoln, Democratic Party notables, Hillary Clinton and Albert Gore, used the holiday as another opportunity to character-assassinate President George W. Bush.

Just when we were beginning to think Hillary Clinton had found her voice - albeit a decidedly phony one - as a mature, seasoned politician poised for a presidential run, she reverts to those cacophonic utterances that find little resonance beyond her embittered but indispensable base.

If one could momentarily suspend his powers of discernment, he could almost sympathize with a woman saddled with the dilemma of trying to sound reasonable without permanently alienating that cabal of reliably unreasonable malcontents. But alas, Hillary obviously has no real beef with her base on principle, and from time to time, it insists she demonstrate her loyalty by paying homage to its cynicism and hysteria.

During a speech at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ in Harlem, the fair-skinned wife of the first black president wasted no time proving her bona fides by exhibiting her penchant for negative hyperbole in critiquing the president and Congress.

She said, “We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence. I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country.”

And, never passing up a chance for political exploitation, Hillary offered up some racially charged red meat to the Hurricane Katrina evacuees in attendance. She apologized “on behalf of a government that left you behind, that turned its back on you” - a government, I suppose, she denies being a part of when it suits her immediate interests.

But as regrettable as Hillary's remarks were, they were anemic compared to the rantings of that poster boy for instability Albert Gore, who, you may recall with horror, came within one state's electoral vote of being president.

Gore, remembered for declaring that “there is no controlling legal authority” when caught with his hands directly in the middle of a fundraising scandal, was quick to call for an independent investigation into “President Bush's spying program,” about which there truly may be no clearly controlling authority.

Of course, Gore doesn't need to wait for an independent investigation. He has already concluded that “the president of the United States has been breaking the law repeatedly and insistently.” Despite the incontrovertible fact that Bush briefed congressmen on his surveillance program, Gore shamelessly said he “secretly assumed that power anyway, as if congressional authorization was a useless bother.”

Further displaying his unique gift for chutzpah, Gore yelled, “A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government.” He must be making exceptions for serial perjury, suborning perjury, obstruction of justice and, yes, criminal violations of campaign finance laws. Indeed, this proud vice president under the president who made a sport of mocking the rule of law said, “It is imperative that respect for the law be restored.”

Then, picking up on the Democrats' latest mantra demonizing President Bush as a megalomaniacal dictator, Gore characterized Bush's attempts to intercept Al Qaeda phone calls for the purpose of protecting America's security as a “constitutional power-grab by the president.”

Continuing with this theme, Gore said, preposterously, “The president's judicial appointments are clearly designed to ensure that the courts will not serve as an effective check on executive power.” I just have to wonder if Gore really thinks enough people are impressionable enough to believe that President Bush, who will leave office in three years, is appointing judges to augment his power rather than to restore integrity to the Constitution.

And, though separate bipartisan commissions concluded the Bush administration did not pressure the CIA or other intelligence agencies to exaggerate their reports of Iraqi WMD, Gore brazenly accused the administration of silencing dissent, censoring inconsistent information and demanding conformity from all executive-branch employees. He said, “CIA analysts who strongly disagreed with the White House assertion that Osama bin Laden was linked to Saddam Hussein found themselves under pressure at work and became fearful of losing promotions and salary increases.”

After accusing President Bush of virtual tyranny and depicting America as on the brink of ruin, Gore closed by protesting, “I am filled with optimism that America is on the eve of a golden age . “

Old Albert could have fooled me. He sounds more like George Bernard Shaw's description of a pessimist - one who “thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for it.”

Either way, I just hope Albert and Hillary continue to spread their contagious optimism between now and November 2008.


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On Fox News Channel's 'Cashin’ In' this morning, a female commentator mentioned that Hillary's latest comments damage her beyond repair. Her chances in 2008? Put a fork in her - she's done. Call it female intuition?

Following her, another commentator, an African American man, made comments to the effect that Hillary offended just about everyone.

Each political figure does have INSTANT recognition with at least one thing they've said. Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Algore, Bubba, FDR, JFK - all of 'em. Is this Hillary's quote - or is there another doozie on the way?

1 posted on 01/21/2006 3:12:29 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Only the people who won't for her under any circumstances will remember any of her negative comments.


2 posted on 01/21/2006 3:14:38 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Libloather
Either way, I just hope Albert and Hillary continue to spread their contagious optimism between now and November 2008.

Clinton/Gore in '08!

3 posted on 01/21/2006 3:15:22 PM PST by Rocko (Liberals -- filled with a compassion you always hear about, but never witness.)
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To: Libloather

IMHO Nothing that Hillery has done or can do will get between her supporters and the next elective office that she tries for. They see and hear no evil. The next few years will be interesting for a variety of reasons.


4 posted on 01/21/2006 3:16:16 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Libloather
Will Hillary's 'plantation' crack cost her in '06 or '08?

Maybe the semiconscious RINO vote but the stupicity of the left-libbers will not budge.

5 posted on 01/21/2006 3:17:51 PM PST by TexGuy
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To: Libloather

Unfortunately...I just heard Mort Kondrake and Fred Barnes on Beltway Boys...pretty much AGREE with Hillary about her comment re: the House is like a plantation...

SOOOOOOO...that certainly doesn't help...especially when Barnes went on to indicate that the "lobbying scandal" is all about the Republicans...he never ONCE mentioned that democrats were on the Abramoff list...dang!


6 posted on 01/21/2006 3:19:10 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Libloather

Could this be Clinton's "Jump the Shark" moment?


7 posted on 01/21/2006 3:19:33 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: Rocko
Clinton/Gore in '08!

Nope, change it to Clinton/Nagin in '08.

8 posted on 01/21/2006 3:19:33 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Libloather

I`m not so sure about Hillary`s popularity with Mrs. Middle of America. She didn`t buy many of their votes when she stayed with Bubba. And then there is the issue of her voice, like fingernails on the blackboard


9 posted on 01/21/2006 3:20:38 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: Libloather
I wonder would say that aloud if:

She were with a black friend in the presence of a Klansman.

In Arkansas.

Just talking amongst her friends at dinner... re: her worries about how blacks are treated in the house... followed of course by 'You know what I mean?'

In a church with majority Caucasians. Just walking down the street with a friend in her neighborhood?
10 posted on 01/21/2006 3:21:04 PM PST by AliVeritas (DNC - The longer the nose, the more we expose. No Costco, it's Sam's Club for me.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Citizen Tom, I agree sir.

The only votes the plantation remark will cost are those from conservatives who would never vote for her anyhoo.

(And you know who I'm talkin' about.)

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11 posted on 01/21/2006 3:22:20 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Libloather
Is this Hillary's quote - or is there another doozie on the way?

Not sure if this is the "quote" that all will remember, but I for one can never forget here screeching about "we all have the right to dissent and stand up against this ......blah blah blah". It makes my skin crawl every time I hear it and I just can't imagine her in the WH anymore than I could imagine John Effing "I served in Viet Nam" Kerry's Heinz wife in the WH. Both of them are a total turn off to listen to, no matter what the subject.

12 posted on 01/21/2006 3:23:07 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: Libloather


Hillary's supporters are deaf, dumb, blind and stupid, they will vote for her no matter what, just like here in MA, gigilo and the swimmer supporters vote them in no matter what.


13 posted on 01/21/2006 3:24:07 PM PST by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: bybybill
.......And then there is the issue of her voice, like fingernails on the blackboard

You can say that again.

14 posted on 01/21/2006 3:25:15 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Libloather

The Truth About America’s First “Black” President and Africa
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_8778.shtml


15 posted on 01/21/2006 3:26:29 PM PST by AliVeritas (DNC - The longer the nose, the more we expose. No Costco, it's Sam's Club for me.)
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To: BulletBobCo
Could this be Clinton's "Jump the Shark" moment?

"Heeeeey"

16 posted on 01/21/2006 3:27:05 PM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: Libloather
Unfortunately, the average American voter is as dumb as a turkey dropping.
17 posted on 01/21/2006 3:27:20 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Libloather

YOu could show a dead guy in a park that she'd had an affair with. Keep her married to a pervert sexuel preditor, and have had her steel the white house silverware and still some stupid asses will vote for her.


18 posted on 01/21/2006 3:27:46 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Libloather
"...made comments to the effect that Hillary offended just about everyone."
Well, that proves that she's an equal opportunity offender, and there's not a shred of bigotry in her. Like W. C. Fields was before her: "I'm free from all bigotry. I hate everyone equally".
19 posted on 01/21/2006 3:28:07 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Women will vote for her because, by and large, women are emotion-driven and feel that "it's about time we had a woman for President."


20 posted on 01/21/2006 3:28:13 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: p23185; Howlin; Liz; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; MurryMom
It makes my skin crawl every time I hear it...

Laura Ingraham calls it Hillary's 'magpie' mode...

21 posted on 01/21/2006 3:28:43 PM PST by Libloather (Hillary, be a doll and give me my FBI file back...)
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To: Libloather
I just hope Albert and Hillary continue to spread their contagious optimism between now and November 2008.

Contagious is right. They are carriers of The Blurb Flu, which strikes its victims deaf, dumb, blind and completely drained of common sense. It is spreading like wildfire in dem. circles, with no cure on the horizon and no known antidote.

22 posted on 01/21/2006 3:28:56 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (The Culture of Corruption hurts. But it's the dems. Corruption of Culture that destroys.)
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To: Libloather

Hillary's comments about Iran are most disturbing to me. She says that Bush erred by allowing the EU to lead the negotiations with Iran.



Remember that it was Billary who negotiated with Jung-Il and ended up letting him have the bomb. If Hillary thinks that negotiations would work with Iran, then she's not qualified to be President.


23 posted on 01/21/2006 3:30:57 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Libloather
Hillary's not cooked. For starters, most democrats agree with her, and the general apolitical public either hasn't heard about this kerkuffle or has already forgotten about it. Republicans and conservatives won't vote for her regardless of her utterances, so the point is moot there.

If her name ends up on the ballot then the deciding factor for most Americans will be (in no particular order): (a) is she from my party; (b) do I want a female president; (c) did I like her shoes when she was on Oprah.

24 posted on 01/21/2006 3:33:44 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Libloather
another commentator, an African American man, made comments to the effect that Hillary offended just about everyone.

This may be true now, but by the election she will have been forgiven by the AA Bloc voters in her base, and her white base won't have cared anyway.

25 posted on 01/21/2006 3:37:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Libloather; All

Hillary Clinton and Ray Nagin Apologize
http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/wuz/2006/01/hillary_clinton.html


26 posted on 01/21/2006 3:37:29 PM PST by AliVeritas (DNC - The longer the nose, the more we expose. No Costco, it's Sam's Club for me.)
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To: Libloather

"She said, “We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence. I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country.”

Hillary was telling the truth because she was referring to, "The Clinton Administration." Now, everyone must remind all the historians to make her prediction come true.


27 posted on 01/21/2006 3:40:01 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Libloather
Talk radio host,Laura Ingraham, played two sound bites of Hilliary, the first black, first lady. When she was speaking at the Black church, the full quote was; (in a high schrill voice) "The House of Representatives is being run like a plantation" and yu nos what I mean." The other sound bite Laura played was when Hilliary was speaking to some elite white group, her voice was soft and smooth. Hilliary HAS A SPLIT PERSONALITY.

Hilliary will lose in 08. Men can't stand her and neither can most women.

28 posted on 01/21/2006 3:40:28 PM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Libloather

Please try not to use "Hillary's" and "crack" in the same sentence....


29 posted on 01/21/2006 3:41:29 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: randog
...most democrats agree with her...

I'm not to sure about that. After hanging out at RATS underground (the dark side) I've seen enough chit-chat about Hillary's support for the Iraq war. That, according to the nutjobs, places her in the middle. They can't stand it. Oh, and throw on the fact that the impeached *Squirt hangs around George Bush the father. That puts them over the edge.

I've read complaints that the RATS aren't opposition enough. Gridlock is the goal and anything short of that makes RATS run quickly towards the 'greenies'.

They want red meat and they want it now. Only an extremist like Barbara Boxer or Algore will do. I don't think Hillary is a real favorite of the left...

30 posted on 01/21/2006 3:41:40 PM PST by Libloather (Hillary, be a doll and give me my FBI file back...)
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To: Libloather

31 posted on 01/21/2006 3:43:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Xenalyte
Women will vote for her because, by and large, women are emotion-driven and feel that "it's about time we had a woman for President."

Not one woman I know. Not one.

32 posted on 01/21/2006 3:43:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Libloather

The thing the media has missed (or failed to report) is those remarks Monday were coming from "the real Hillary."


33 posted on 01/21/2006 3:44:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Libloather
(Will Hillary's 'plantation' crack cost her in '06 or '08?)

No, because leftists demoCREEPs are complete without morals. And, she was trying to call Republicans racists, so it was probably the prescribed use in the demoKOOKs handbook.

I mean, think about it, one of their most esteemed Sinators was a former Grand Keagle of the Klu Klux Klan. He goes on national TV and spouts the "N word" like 5 or 6 times, without so much as a word from anyone. No one in the DNC, the House, the Sinate, or the media wing of the DNC (aka the mainstream media or MSM).

No morals, no principles.

34 posted on 01/21/2006 3:46:06 PM PST by mattdono (The New 'Rat math: 0.0000017% = Vast Wiretapping of "Americans" Riiiggghhhhtttt...)
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To: randog
"Hillary's not cooked. For starters, most democrats agree with her,...

You should say left wing, liberal democrats. My brother is an old time Mill Wright, Union, Democrat, and I know he wouldn't vote for her. He didn't vote for Gore or Kerry either.

35 posted on 01/21/2006 3:53:12 PM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Txsleuth

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."?

Generally speaking, union members do not strive for opportunity. Rather, they strive to protect what they have. That's an important distinction in marketing. Union members are not the target market for self-help or business opportunities. They are a target market for things like insurance and home security. Sell them a product or service that helps them protect what they already have. Whatever you do, don't tell them you are going to take something away from they.

Go Hillary!!! 

36 posted on 01/21/2006 3:58:08 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Libloather
"Shooting yourself in the foot (Will Hillary's 'plantation' crack cost her in '06 or '08?)"

No she is a democrat and the democrats can say anything without having to pay the price of defeat.
37 posted on 01/21/2006 4:01:40 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Howlin

You can say that again....I do NOT know one woman that would vote for Hillary...

In fact, I don't know any women who make having a female POTUS as a top reason for voting that way...


38 posted on 01/21/2006 4:05:59 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Xenalyte
Women will vote for her because, by and large, women are emotion-driven and feel that "it's about time we had a woman for President."

Don't forget that many of us here are women and none of us will vote for her. She is an extremely divisive person. Even though the hard core Dems will vote for her, that is a small percentage of the electorate (25%). I have to say, though, that I still puzzle at the number of votes that Kerry got. He is the ultimate phony and yet millions voted for him. Puke!

39 posted on 01/21/2006 4:08:21 PM PST by luv2ski
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To: Howlin

And...they didn't stress her appearance with Harry Belafonte...

Speaking of whom....I have seen a report on the Fox "ticker" that Belafonte was out today...making even stronger allegations against Bush...

I think we need to make sure her name is linked with Belafontes every chance we can!!


40 posted on 01/21/2006 4:08:26 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Libloather

Hillary's not cooked, but she scr*wed up - and everyone knows it.

Liberals are a lot of things, but most of all they're not very forgiving. They'll turn on their own like nothing you've ever seen - if they feel someone has become a liability.

Jimmy Carter was banned from Clinton's convention. Dukakis was shunned after his huge-helmet tank pic (which reminds this poster of Hillary's plantation remark just a bit)

Now not only has Hillary shown herself to be suspect in the honesty and party purity tests - she has embarrassed fellow liberals.

It's worth enjoying and taking full advantage of as either a conservative or libertarian - it's an honest to goodness Howard Dean scream moment and will make someone a fine campaign commercial, but it could also be the first crack in her cloak of perceived invincibility.

If liberals discover somehow she's not invincible - she's toast.

I say make fun of her a LOT. Liberals have no sense of humor. They'll throw her overboard.


41 posted on 01/21/2006 4:09:20 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: YOUGOTIT
No she is a democrat and the democrats can say anything without having to pay the price of defeat.

YOUGOTIT, you got it.

42 posted on 01/21/2006 4:13:48 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: Joe Boucher

You're stretching it a bit, aren't you? Come on, make it more real; no one would be that blind. ;)


43 posted on 01/21/2006 4:13:48 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Libloather

Democrats can be as vile and ugly with no repurcussions because their constituents name for that is passionate. If a Republican were to make similar statements, it is reason to have them stand down or be impeached.


44 posted on 01/21/2006 4:13:53 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Libloather
Hillary's latest comments damage her beyond repair. Her chances in 2008? Put a fork in her - she's done.

Call it what you want but given the short memory of the socialists who seem to have forgotten about 9/11, Hillary's remarks will be forgotten and never mentioned again by the MSM. She will be rarin' to go in '08.........

45 posted on 01/21/2006 4:18:00 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I break for pikas, swerve for skunks and accelerate for possum......squirrels are on their own)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The other night...when FR went down...I checked out DUmmieland, and Daily KOS...

And they ARE relentless when they feel that one of their one has betrayed them..

They were really slamming Chrissy Matthews, Joe Biden, and Harry Reid that night!! LOL


46 posted on 01/21/2006 4:18:38 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Libloather
"Just when we were beginning to think Hillary Clinton had found her voice - albeit a decidedly phony one - as a mature, seasoned politician poised for a presidential run"


Say what?



47 posted on 01/21/2006 4:19:31 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: freeangel
What I wonder about is why she said it. It was intentional for sure- she has said it before- but why? There must be some constituency that she thinks will respond to this positively to keep repeating it.
On another but similar subject, don't you just love the dilemma the Dems find themselves in when they run for President? They have to go waaaaay left to appeal to the base because those are the voters in the primaries but then they are screwed in the national election because all their speeches and comments are on tape and the country will not go for a lefty.
48 posted on 01/21/2006 4:20:57 PM PST by luv2ski
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To: Howlin; Xenalyte

I know of no woman who vote for her either. No one. Not even a liberal sister.


49 posted on 01/21/2006 4:21:42 PM PST by Slip18
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Forgot the "would" before the "vote. Sheesh.


50 posted on 01/21/2006 4:27:42 PM PST by Slip18
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