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Tancredo: House understands border issues, but Senate doesn’t
Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona ^ | Jan 21, 2006 | Bill Hess

Posted on 01/21/2006 5:02:47 PM PST by SandRat

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1 posted on 01/21/2006 5:02:50 PM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; A Navy Vet; ...

Border Story


2 posted on 01/21/2006 5:03:19 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Looks like I'll have to fire off a letter the "The Lieb" here in Ct.


3 posted on 01/21/2006 5:11:36 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: SandRat
The US Senate does not understand much of anything. Their rules say that cannot say anything bad about one of their own, which means that they cannot tell the truth about the Traitors who sit in the US Senate. That is if they had the desire to do so.

Like the Senate of Rome, before the Republic ended, they are more concerned about their own royal living and royal treatment by the press than about the safety of the American people, or the Constitution.

It is a shame that when they ran for office they espoused such grand support of the Constitution and when they got elected that seem to have forgotten about their oath to support and defend this sacred document.

The US Senate has become, like the Senate in the last days of the Republic in Rome, a private club that cares little about their country or offers support to our President in his attempt to keep us safe.

Shame, Shame, Shame on the spineless cowards that occupy the great chambers of the US Senate.
4 posted on 01/21/2006 5:35:45 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: YOUGOTIT

The Senate doesn't understand the importance of allowing drilling in Alaska either. They know better than both Alaskan Senators do about their own state.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 5:48:10 PM PST by moonman
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I wonder how much money Bay and Tom raised on this mini-tour?

"Bay's here, everybody get your checkbook out."

6 posted on 01/21/2006 6:03:41 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: SandRat

I'm still stunned at the arrogance of the Mexican government that insists there is some "right" of their citizens to invade the United States, to do so by way of ignoring the legal requirements to enter the country.

They seem to know no reason. I wonder how many other countries in the world Mexico assumes is "denying rights to it's people" for these reasons, or, is it just the U.S. they target? If so, why?

That last question was rhetorical...


7 posted on 01/21/2006 6:16:35 PM PST by MillerCreek
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but they are not invading the Estados Unidos, or criminales, they are just returning to Aztlan. Didn't you see the Group at the Home-Depot protest for the Day Worker site in Berkley???


8 posted on 01/21/2006 6:22:21 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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The U.S. Senate is the largest collection of pompous, bloviating windbags ever assembled in this part of the Milky Way - and that includes Republicrats and Demogogues!


9 posted on 01/21/2006 6:35:12 PM PST by 43north (Liberals are obsessed by the vulgarity of their lives & the obscenity of their behavior.)
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It is a shame that when they ran for office they espoused such grand support of the Constitution and when they got elected that seem to have forgotten about their oath to support and defend this sacred document.

Yeah, free fillet mignon, cigars, mahogany chairs, vintage cabernets, and chauffeurs tend to have that effect on people.
10 posted on 01/21/2006 6:42:23 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: SandRat

"Tancredo's in bed with Bay Buchanan SQUAWK! < /Dane >

11 posted on 01/21/2006 7:05:45 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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Not that I've been to Berkeley, nor have plans to, seriously here, the illegal alien population and Mexico, specifically, does seem to be interwoven with the U.S. construction industry moreso than just about any other...I even heard/read Vicente Fox referring to his "people's" "talents" with "construction" on several occasions, and, the Home Depots, Lowe's especially are too intermingled with glorifying "cheap labor" for my comfort, including bilingual stores and signage for the added insult to the rest of the U.S. (both stores should be chastised for those practices, in my opinion -- if they want to establish Spanish speaking stores and personality, then let them go to Spanish speaking countries to do that).


12 posted on 01/22/2006 12:26:34 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That's funny!


13 posted on 01/22/2006 5:59:03 AM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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"I wonder how much money Bay and Tom raised on this mini-tour?"

I doubt it was as much as Bush, Cheney and the RNC bagged from the corporations that want our borders left open and the illegal alien advocacy groups.

What's your point?

14 posted on 01/22/2006 6:10:07 AM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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I've never quite been able to understand this relationship between Tanc, Bay, Pat, and Team America PAC. Maybe you can explain it to me.

I'm sure you will recall that during the congressional elections of 2004, Team America PAC contributed heavily to the campaigns of candidates running against imcumbant republicans. Many considered this to be a violation of Reagan's 11th Commandment and Tanc was criticized by many Republicans for this and they accused him of being a back-stabber. Delay and other republican house leaders went so far as to point out that Tanc has had no advancement in the House because he is anti-republican. If you look at his committee assigments you see that, in spite of his tenure, he doesn't hold even a sub-committee chair and he gets only the lowliest of the low committee assignments.

In response to this, Bay pointed out that Tanc doesn't control TA PAC and he wasn't responsible for opposing these republican imcumbants, that she and Pat control it. I always thought that this was odd since Tanc formed TA PAC, his name is used on the literature, and he raises money for it.

When ever I see examples, such as is describe in this article, of Tanc raising money for Pat and Bay I don't undrstand it. Its like he is paying off Pat and Bay for something they have done for him or will do for him.

15 posted on 01/22/2006 7:57:33 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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It's not your money, right?

So what do you care?

16 posted on 01/22/2006 8:39:36 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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To: SandRat

Securing the border with Mexico is only halfway done. It needs to be done with Canada, too.


17 posted on 01/22/2006 8:42:18 AM PST by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Tancredo is anti-illegal immigration as are a majority of FReepers.

Tancredo believes, as many of us do, that illegal immigration is one of the most important issues confronting our Nation, so do Pat, Bay and Team America PAC.

Supporting candidates that are pro-open borders, pro-illegal immigration, anti-U.S. sovereignty, one-worlders just because they claim to be Republicans is suicide.

"...they accused him of being a back-stabber."

So, what.

A so-called Republican candidate that supports a plan allowing the millions of illegal aliens in our country to stay is 'back-stabbing' the citizens of the United States.

The majority of the citizens of the United States want our existing laws against illegal immigration enforced and our borders secured.

Tancredo, Pat, Bay and Team America PAC are members of that majority.

The open-borders, Republican and Democrat candidates that Tancredo, Pat, Bay and Team America PAC oppose are not.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Go back and read the Republican Party Platform Planks when Reagan was Governor of California and President of the United States and compare them to the Bush/Rove/RNC Platform Planks of today.

Then ask yourself, 'Who stabbed who in the back?'

18 posted on 01/22/2006 9:13:55 AM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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"Tancredo is anti-illegal"

Everybody is anti illegal, including Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. There are a very small number of wild-eyed libertarians and utopian marxist who support open borders and the free flow of labor.

The only actual difference between all that oppose illegals is what the solution to the problem is.

Your method, like many here, is to try to call those who disagree with you and Tancredo the myth OBL, un-republican, and un-americam. An out right lie.

I can read Tancredo's reform bill and he says that the illegals can't be deported. So for all you zealots who are advocating the round-up and deportation of the illegals, you need to find another political leader.

19 posted on 01/22/2006 10:25:33 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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Why do I care?

I know that Tanc has a lot of loyal, hardcore supporters and I hate to see them donate to TA PAC thinking they are supporting him when the money actually goes to Pat B.

20 posted on 01/22/2006 10:26:04 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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