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Sweet solution to fighting cavities
http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/health/ny-hscand194593015jan19,0,2255925.story?coll=ny-health-print ^ | 1/19/06 | Curtis Taylor

Posted on 01/21/2006 7:38:53 PM PST by BlueSky194

A two-year study in the latest issue of the Journal of Clinical Dentistry found that CaviStat, a calcium/arginine-based product, was more effective than fluoride in fighting tooth decay when used in toothpaste form. The study, involving 726 children, found the group using CaviStat had 58 percent fewer cavities than those using over-the-counter fluoride toothpaste.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cavistat; cavities; dentistry; fluoride; health; medicine; teeth

1 posted on 01/21/2006 7:38:55 PM PST by BlueSky194
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To: neverdem

medicine ping


2 posted on 01/21/2006 7:48:12 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: BlueSky194

"While BasicMints, Ortek's first candy-based product, is not yet available, the Roslyn Heights-based company sells CaviStat toothpaste as DenClude for sensitive teeth and ProClude, a polishing paste used by dental hygienists. "



Interesting, thanks for posting it.


3 posted on 01/21/2006 7:50:35 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: BlueSky194

Cool. Fluoride is toxic.

" Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream."


4 posted on 01/21/2006 7:53:08 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Iran, you are next.)
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To: Hypervigilant
I used to work with a guy that swore that fluoride was added to toothpaste to pacify the human species. It did nothing for tooth decay, but would just take the edge off the natural aggression that men should have.

It came in about the time hippies emerged. I'm not remembering all of his points, but it sounded interesting.
5 posted on 01/21/2006 8:01:08 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Hypervigilant

"Mr. President... I'm beginning to smell a big, fat Commie rat." (General Buck Turgidson)


6 posted on 01/21/2006 8:11:59 PM PST by A. Pole (Gov.Gumpas:"But that would be putting the clock back, have you no idea of progress, of development?")
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To: Hypervigilant

Adding fluoride to dairy products would render it inactive, as it binds with the calcium.


7 posted on 01/21/2006 8:17:21 PM PST by toothfairy86
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To: toothfairy86

Must've been Tofutti.


8 posted on 01/21/2006 8:21:11 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Iran, you are next.)
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To: BlueSky194

After my daughter's last visit to the dentist, I would be willing buy this stuff by the truckload.

I would be cheaper than her next office visit at the end of this month.


9 posted on 01/21/2006 8:24:31 PM PST by Skooz (Property taxes are immoral)
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To: Skooz

Just remind her that dogs don't get cavities,
so all she has to do is gargle with dog saliva.....

Actually my dental hygene has improves tremendously
since I started brushing with dilute hydrogen peroxide,
also run the floss through it as you floss.
Kills germs FAST.


10 posted on 01/21/2006 8:27:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BlueSky194
Another way to prevent cavities is to chew gum sweetened with sorbitol.
11 posted on 01/21/2006 8:50:44 PM PST by wintertime
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To: BlueSky194

Arginine?! Yikes! That stuff promotes Cold Sores!! I think I'd rather have the cavities!


12 posted on 01/21/2006 8:51:11 PM PST by Americanchild (..and deliver us all from Islam! Amen!)
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To: wintertime

Xylitol is better for inhibiting decay.


13 posted on 01/21/2006 9:01:54 PM PST by toothfairy86
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To: toothfairy86

Shhhh! The ADA doesn't want you to know about xylitol!


14 posted on 01/21/2006 9:24:04 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Battle Axe

Also, Laser Dentistry is superior then using a drill.
There is no pain when you get a cavity removed using a laser.
Read this.
http://www.healthdecisions.org/Dental/News/default.aspx?doc_id=35878


15 posted on 01/21/2006 9:33:24 PM PST by BlueSky194
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To: BlueSky194

ping


16 posted on 01/21/2006 9:39:53 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Hypervigilant

*shrug* If that were true, with as much HF as I've worked with over the years I should be quite, quite dead.


17 posted on 01/21/2006 9:42:29 PM PST by null and void ("Never place a period where God has placed a coma" --Gracie Allen)
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To: Americanchild
Arginine?! Yikes! That stuff promotes Cold Sores!! I think I'd rather have the cavities!

That's news to me. I've been taking 3,000mg of it a day, and I haven't had a cold sore in years. But I sure as heck haven't needed Viagra any more!

18 posted on 01/21/2006 9:46:45 PM PST by FreeKeys (Hillary accepts money from hard-line Iranian regime frontmen. See: http://snipurl.com/ltao)
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To: FreeKeys

Caution for those who have had heart attacks:

http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?n=64859-l-arginine-may


19 posted on 01/21/2006 9:55:21 PM PST by RazzPutin ("You have told us more than you can possibly know." -- Niels Bohr)
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To: BlueSky194

There is no pain when you get a cavity removed using a laser.
Read this. (Blue Sky)

To Blue Sky,

But it sounds like a jack hammer.


20 posted on 01/21/2006 9:57:11 PM PST by wintertime
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To: FairOpinion

I have used DenClude toothpaste. I find it very harsh and irritating, and only use it occasionally now. Arginine has a very high pH.

Xylitol (gum, mints, toothpaste, etc.)is very effective in preventing tooth decay. Xylitol plus fluoride (toothpaste)is even better, just don't swallow the fluoride.

Fluoride is ok in toothpaste but not in the water supply.


21 posted on 01/21/2006 10:05:39 PM PST by RazzPutin ("You have told us more than you can possibly know." -- Niels Bohr)
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To: null and void

Fun HF stories:

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/chemsafety/Equip/HFfacts12.pdf


22 posted on 01/21/2006 10:12:34 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: RazzPutin
Caution for those who have had heart attacks: http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?n=64859-l-arginine-may

Thanks. I've never had a heart attack (that I know of), but I wonder how much difference my 3grams and their 9grams makes.

23 posted on 01/21/2006 10:41:21 PM PST by FreeKeys (Drain bamaged)
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To: Battle Axe

There are toothpaste's in health food stores that dont have fluoride in them.
I know Nature's Gate makes these Toothpastes with no fluoride in them.
The incredients are pretty impresive in the Nature's gate.
Free Calcium, Calcium Carbonate, sea kelp, Carrot Root, Vitamin C, etc.


24 posted on 01/21/2006 10:49:49 PM PST by BlueSky194
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To: Right Wing Assault

Yeah. What they don't tell you is that HF feels just like water. It grabs the calcium so quickly that it deadens the pain nerves. You don't really feel it until it soaks all the way to the bone.

Charming stuff.

Months after one of my exposures to HF (In this case I ended up in the middle of a redish brown cloud of reaction byproducts from an 1:1:1 HF-Nitric-Acetic spill) my dentst said How did you get fluoride stains on your teeth?!?!??


25 posted on 01/21/2006 11:15:53 PM PST by null and void ("Never place a period where God has placed a coma" --Gracie Allen)
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To: BlueSky194

Like the article says, you can't use it to remove decay on teeth that already have fillings in them. For example, if you have recurrent decay around a filling, you will need to have the filling drilled out the traditional way. Lasars have many wonderful applications, but most dentists around here are too frugal or don't have the high production to make using a lasar economically feasible for them.


26 posted on 01/22/2006 4:59:25 AM PST by toothfairy86
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To: null and void

I used some of it in college and no one gave any warnings other than that we should use rubber gloves and don't spill any of it on us. I poured some into a teflon cup and used a glass dropper to apply it to what I was doing. I left it sit and when I cam back, half of the dropper was gone.


27 posted on 01/22/2006 5:30:25 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Gads! I always make sure anyone with access to HF is achingly aware of its' properties and insidiousness.
28 posted on 01/22/2006 8:06:58 AM PST by null and void ("Never place a period where God has placed a coma" --Gracie Allen)
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To: null and void

This was back in the late 60s so I imagine they are a LOT more careful now. I hope. The stories about people spilling it on their legs and dying a few hours later is scary.


29 posted on 01/22/2006 11:08:55 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: null and void

The types of fluoride used for dental purposes are usually sodium fluoride or stannous fluoride, NOT HF (hydrofluoric acid).


30 posted on 01/22/2006 1:46:31 PM PST by toothfairy86
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To: toothfairy86
I suppose you'd count as an authority on that.

;^)

Nonetheless fluorine is fluorine, and my exposure was sufficient to stain my teeth.

I still haven't figured out how I survived that one....
31 posted on 01/22/2006 6:24:05 PM PST by null and void ("Never place a period where God has placed a coma" --Gracie Allen)
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