Posted on 01/21/2006 10:50:21 PM PST by SmithL
Likud chairman Binyamin Netanyahu will call for shifting the security fence eastward and initiating economic projects to help the Palestinians in his speech on Sunday night at the Herzliya Conference, sources close to Netanyahu said.
Netanyahu will stress the need to ensure that Israel will have secure and defensible borders. To accomplish this, he will recommend restoring the fence to borders recommended by security officials before Supreme Court decisions changed its course.
The borders Netanyahu will outline will include the Jordan Valley, the Golan Heights, the Judean desert, an undivided Jerusalem, settlement blocs in Judea and Samaria, and the hilltops overlooking Ben-Gurion Airport, the Gush Dan region and Road 443.
Netanyahu gave a preview of his Herzliya speech when he addressed a delegation from the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee on Wednesday. In the AIPAC speech, Netanyahu said that negotiations could be conducted with the Palestinians based on reciprocity if there were a Palestinian partner that recognized Israel and would fight terror.
To help the Palestinians, Netanyahu told AIPAC officials that he supported economic projects that could encourage their economic development. Netanyahu is expected to elaborate on such projects in the Herzliya speech.
He has made a point in recent speeches of encouraging Kadima to reveal its red lines. In a speech at Tel Aviv University on Thursday, he accused the press of "hiding from the public that Kadima intends to withdraw from 90 percent of Judea and Samaria." The bulk of Netanyahu's Herzliya speech will be devoted to the issue of security.
Even though he only reached the rank of captain in the IDF, Netanyahu is the highest ranking soldier on the Likud's Knesset list. Likud officials said it was unlikely that Netanyahu would try to add a general to the party's list ahead of the election, but Yediot Aharonot Internet portal YNET reported that he met last week with former IDF chief of General Staff Dan Shomron and asked him to join. Shomron, however, rejected the offer.
Another general who could be asked is Maj.-Gen. (res) Ya'acov Amidror, who headed the IDF's military colleges and the research and assessment branch of military intelligence. Amidror was a vocal critic of disengagement but was against refusing orders. He helped write the plan for defensible borders that is being adopted as the Likud's platform.
Amidror said that Netanyahu had not contacted him about joining the Likud and that he did not intend to enter politics. Netanyahu has said in closed forums recently that "generals have to be in the army, not politics." The closest thing the Likud had to a general, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) department head Ehud Yatom, won the unrealistic 33rd slot on the list. He revealed on Saturday night that he had discussed the possibility of joining the National Union list with MK Aryeh Eldad.
Army Radio reported on Saturday night that Eldad had also talked with Likud MKs Ayoub Kara and Michael Gorlovsky about joining the National Union. Eldad and Kara said that they had received many offers from other parties.
Why didn't we think of that?
I love Netanyahu, but I'm not confident that a fence will fix the problem. Hunting down and killing every rat bastard terrorist. That will fix the problem.
I agree 100%. Take our Christian city back from the Death Cult that now infests it. If the Christian community weren't a bunch of squirmy pacifists, we could have a call for a Crusade.
Would there be any Palestinians left?
Could count them on one hand. Like most Muslims these days, a moderate Palestinian is one who passively supports terrorist acts by jihadists.
Its sort of like knowing your neighbor molests his children and do nothing about it. By not reporting it, you are an enabler. Same thing with the Pali's.
Palis breed like flies, and each is a future terrorist.
Well, if Israel nukes Iran, the 'moving fence' idea will probably be moot. Let's hope Netanyahu has a Plan B.
So they're Palies then?
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A Crusade! Did you call for a CRUSADE!
Dontcha know all men are brothers?
Just because the Arabs are the idiot children of the human family is no reason to call for a crusade against them. We gotta love and support them.
Liberals everywhere know this. Contemplate the wisdom of the Liberal. /sarc
A map of plan A and plan B, anyone?
bump for later.
You sound angry. But I think you're right about hunting them down. That strategy has been called "targeted killings" and it has been remarkably effective against Hamas in the last two or three years. Got them to offer a truce! Which we all know is nothing but an opportunity to regroup, but that's for another post.
Having a policy of targeted killings against those who practice terrorism doesn't mean a fence isn't helpful too.
Deserves to be emphasized. If anyone living in that area does not wish to be hung from the nearest (Israeli & US Paid for) lamp post, they don't breathe a word about politics. We remember how the people were in Iraq under Saddam, the situation in Gaza is even worse because it's on such a small scale. Everyone probably knows everyone and word gets around quick. And all it takes is a rumor to get you your brains running out the back of your head into the gutter.
"I love Netanyahu, but I'm not confident that a fence will fix the problem. Hunting down and killing every rat bastard terrorist. That will fix the problem."
Me too. You're correct that a fence won't fix the problem, but it will make it tougher to kill Israelis. After the fence is totally erected, and the palis have had their election, Bebe {if elected PM} issues the following:
If there is an attack on Israel, the electricity from Israel to pally land will be shut off.
If there is a second attack on Israel, the water from Israel to hamasville will be shut off.
The pally's took over the greenhouses that the Israeli's had run for years in gaza and in less than a year they are failing. If you can't grow plants and can't make electricity and clean water, why attack the people that supply it to you?
Without Israel, the pallys wouldn't survive for 5 years. They have lived as ghetto residents for 30 years. Handouts and welfare and hatred. The un gives them money and demands that Israel supply the electricity and water. You don't hear many Israeli politicians talk about electricity and water, but they know it is there for their use.
Who would they report it to? Enabling child molestation and living under an insane police state are not equivalent.
I think it's a good idea – it might not solve all the problems, but it's a start. Thanks for the ping.
Who would you report it to?
The "reward" for informing, is the death penalty.
Which is still carried out often enough.
I'd suicide bomb the Pali leaders. If I'm going to be a suicide bomber anyhow, you might as well pick a target where you have a chance of making a difference. Blowing up Israeli discoteques certainly isn't a winning formula. If I was going to give my life for a cause, I'd strike against the chicken shiite Pali brass that don't have the guts to give their own lives and instead send boys and women. What a bunsh of panty wastes. Sooner or later the Pali brass would change their ways and the ordinary people would be able to rise up with with the help of the world community. But when the Pali sheeple show support for their leaders, the hell with them.
Angry? Well, yes, but more angry that too many in the West want to justify murder. I think Israel would target even more, but has her arm bent by the US and world community to show some restraint.
I believe the term used is collaborator for anyone who is seen as being cooperative.
I didn't know about that either. I like your plan.
Israel is in trouble with the Presbyterian Church USA because of the fence.
I would reduce an entire Philistine city to rubble after each attack against Israel/Israelis until it stopped or until the Philistine terrorists have been pushed to a more natural and suitable homeland solution.
No, but that would indeed solve the problem. But before I have to grab the asbestos shorts, let me point out that Palestinian is a political party that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel, not a people. After you wiped out the terrorists, there would still be about 10% of the Arabs left, and they could go back to living in peace with the Jews. That is where they were before the rat bastards were imported.
No flaming by me. I agree with your post.
I suspect the trouble is the Presbyterian's not Israel's.
The Presbyterian Church USA should actually be called the Democrat Presbyterian Church USA.
That would be the surest cure for Rabid Jihadosis..
The dozen or so that are not mixed up with terrorists..
Maybe 'The Graft Zeppelin", Al Sharpton could fly in and give them a rousing, gaseous speech.
"Dhimmicrat" might be more apt.
I believe that at the height of Intifada 2, polls in the high 80% showed that Palestinians supported homicide bombings.
Those numbers began to drop when Israel cracked down in Operation Defensive Shield in 2002 and then built the fence. So at what was the height of their prosperity, at the beginning of the Intifada, the vast majority of Palestinians supported terror. When they began to suffer from Israeli security crackdowns, with their economy in shambles, more questioned the efficacy of terror. What should be done? Do you feed the hand that bites you?
Fear does not explain voting in a poll.
When you train a child from birth to hate, when your schools and media incite incessantly, that's what you get.
In contrast the Israeli textbooks were revamped the other way in the 1980's. Thus the Israeli left was born.
LOL. I knew democracy was a mistake - looks like Hamas will win.
I believe that is largely what is happening in Pakistan. Poor children are fed and clothed by extremist groups, who also teach them to hate non-Moslems. The next generation of Pakistan is scary indeed.
Time to start lobbying the Pope. This new one might just go for it.
undivided JerusalemI remember Ted Kennedy refusing to be nailed down on his position toward Israel during his 1980 primary run at Carter's incumbency. Instead of answering the question "how does your position differ from that of the administration?" he went on a tirade about not knowing what the administration's policy was, and one example was Rosalind Carter's stumping speech in which she referred to an undivided Jerusalem.
I remember those things, too. I wonder if the current fence incorporates architecture and materials based on lessons from the Yom Kippur war.
A few years ago we left the Democrat Presbyterian Church USA and became members of the conservative Wesleyan denomination. I never saw any Kerry bumper stickers there.
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