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Do Al Gore and other Democrats really want to keep the government from finding al Qaeda agents?
Opinion Journal - Wall Street Journal ^ | Sunday, January 22, 2006 | VICTORIA TOENSING

Posted on 01/21/2006 11:21:49 PM PST by CHUCKfromCAL

In a speech last week, Al Gore took another swing at the National Security Agency's electronic surveillance program, which monitors international communications when one party is affiliated with terrorists. Specifically, Mr. Gore argued that George Bush "has been breaking the law repeatedly and persistently," and that such actions might constitute an impeachable offense. The question he raises is whether the president illegally bypassed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). But the real issue is national security: FISA is as adept at detecting--and, thus, preventing--a terrorist attack as a horse-and-buggy is at getting us from New York to Paris.

I have extensive experience with the consequences of government bungling due to overstrict interpretations of FISA. As chief counsel for the Senate Intelligence Committee from 1981 to 1984, I participated in oversight of FISA in the first years after its passage. When I subsequently became deputy assistant attorney general in the Reagan administration, one of my responsibilities was the terrorism portfolio, which included working with FISA.

In 1985, I experienced the pain of terminating a FISA wiretap when to do so defied common sense and thwarted the possibility of gaining information about American hostages. During the TWA 847 hijacking, American serviceman Robert Stethem was murdered and the remaining American male passengers taken hostage. We had a previously placed tap in the U.S. and thought there was a possibility we could learn the hostages' location. But Justice Department career lawyers told me that the FISA statute defined its "primary purpose" as foreign intelligence gathering. Because crimes were taking place, the FBI had to shut down the wire.

FISA's "primary purpose" became the basis for the "wall" in 1995, when the Clinton-Gore Justice Department prohibited those on the intelligence side from even communicating with those doing law enforcement.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alore; homelandsecurity; nsa; spying; toensing; victoriatoensing; yes

1 posted on 01/21/2006 11:21:52 PM PST by CHUCKfromCAL
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

What was it that VP Cheney said recently? Something like he was 'glad that Al Gore lost in 2000.' Thats all we need to be thankful for these days. The man is insane.


2 posted on 01/21/2006 11:27:38 PM PST by Bullitt
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
Do Al Gore and other Democrats really want to keep the government from finding al Qaeda agents?

Short answer is, "yes".

3 posted on 01/21/2006 11:39:10 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Chena

Bump!


4 posted on 01/21/2006 11:47:43 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Victoria Toensing is doing great work puncturing the moonbats' balloons.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 11:52:48 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: Bullitt

"I am your lord and master! You WILL bow down before me!"

7 posted on 01/22/2006 12:17:05 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: Bullitt

It's unsettling to think Gore was only 538 votes away from being POTUS. Not only is he insane, but he's turning into a pathological liar. Like the Clintons, truth and honesty are a very low priority for Algore.


8 posted on 01/22/2006 12:28:48 AM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

No question about it, Gore has serious mental instability. You can see it in that picture and hear it in his speeches. He has gone around the bend mentally. May the Lord continue to keep that psycho out of the White House.


9 posted on 01/22/2006 12:33:18 AM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Yes, as El Rushbo says they don't want any problem solved, certainly not by President Bush, they want the "issue" for political purposes and to justify their existence.


10 posted on 01/22/2006 12:36:07 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

The other thing that really irks me about Gore is the way he talks down to his audience like he's this superior, more intelligent person talking to children. I doubt that he's even in the same league with me in SAT scores and yet he talks down to people like me. His attempts to disenfranchise military voters in Florida in November, 2000 were an absolute disgrace. How can he show his crazy face in public after a disgraceful episode like that?


11 posted on 01/22/2006 12:49:22 AM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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To: Bullitt; linda_22003

Yep


12 posted on 01/22/2006 1:22:01 AM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Don't you know, the Constitution is a suicide pact?


13 posted on 01/22/2006 2:12:17 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

So, Gore is saying that HE is responsible for removing all hope for the hostages of the TWA 847 hijacking, and leaving them to die?

He should be hung!!!


14 posted on 01/22/2006 2:26:35 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

The Father of The Internet vs. The Hildabeast vs. The Great Purple Heart.

It's going to be a fun primary season in 2008.


15 posted on 01/22/2006 2:42:33 AM PST by samtheman
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Fat Al is the quintessential Democrat. The more hysterically he raves, the more obvious it becomes that he's both pathetic and bonkers.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 2:46:08 AM PST by Savage Beast (Women are like wine. You get what you pay for. Mine's the best. It's expensive. It's worth it.)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Do Al Gore and other Democrats really want to keep the government from finding al Qaeda agents? Clearly, the answer is yes. They radical leftists have made it impossible to believe otherwise.


17 posted on 01/22/2006 3:47:07 AM PST by Peach
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
They don't care about anything except getting back into "POWER".
Period! ! ! !
18 posted on 01/22/2006 4:11:25 AM PST by Voter#537 (IF . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Wow this is going to be fun. Mrs. Bill Clinton with her shrill screach, algore bloviating about how f-ing smart he is compared to us mortals and throw in Joe (the plagerizer)Biden talking us to sleep, The reverand Al and maybe a few other loonie birds all on the same stage telling us how they would do a better job then Mr. Bush.
I have some straight razors I'd donate to watch them cut each others throats.
But watching these fols try to become our next president is better then any other show in town.
Oh yeah and throw in Israel bombinb the crap out of Irans nuke project and time to get the popcorn and set back in the easy chaie for the fun.


19 posted on 01/22/2006 4:15:30 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
See also: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562339/posts
20 posted on 01/22/2006 4:26:41 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Big Al isn't on the dem A list anymore. Like Kerry, he just thinks he is.


21 posted on 01/22/2006 4:27:39 AM PST by hershey
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
"Do Al Gore and other Democrats really want to keep the government from finding al Qaeda agents in the U.S.?"

That's silly. Of course they want to find them. They just don't want to kill them.

Ya see their plan is that when they do catch them they'll....

After a couple years of this 24/7/365 gubmint oversight al Qaeda will be so demoralized and just plain lazy, they won't have the will nor energy to kill anyone. However, they WILL get accustomed to sitting in various gubmint offices for hours on end - only to be told at 4:45 pm to 'come back tomorrow'.

It's really quite dastardly when you think about it.

22 posted on 01/22/2006 5:46:02 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
ping!


23 posted on 01/22/2006 6:14:39 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: defenderSD
Gore had a low gentlemen's C grade average as a undergraduate. (W too had a 'gentlemen's C as a undergraduate. He probably got into Harvard's B school on academic probation. However W applied himself and graduated got his Harvard MBA. I don't think that is a 'basket weaving' degree!)
Gore flunked out of divinity school
Gore had a D average in law school and never graduated (So far its never been explicitly stated that he was asked to leave!)
Gore claims and is attributed great intellectual interests, capacity and accomplishments.
However I see no actual evidence of that. His speeches have all the intellectual depth of someone running for high school or college student body president.
Gore may be the least intellectual capable and least academically prepared of the modern US Presidents, Vice Presidents & presidential wannabes !

aside
Haven't you noticed when the Left vehemently claim a negative characteristic about a conservative candidate. If one examines closely their candidate has been showing that those characteristics for decades. Of course the MSM is totally disinterested in pointing out that discrepancy !
24 posted on 01/22/2006 6:34:48 AM PST by Reily (Reilly (Dr Doom))
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To: Condor51

If the Clinton administration wasn't too busy pimping for Exxon and their interests in the Caspian Sea area, maybe they would have been more interested in the info that Sudan was serving up on a silver platter. In 1995, Roger Tamraz sold Gore on his idea for a pipeline. If the White House and the NSC had spent less time worrying whether or not Exxon got its 5%, maybe 9/11 never would have happened.


25 posted on 01/22/2006 7:21:18 AM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend oneself against harm.)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

Victoria for Attorney General!

26 posted on 01/22/2006 7:22:08 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: defenderSD

How can he show his crazy face in public after a disgraceful episode like that?...............

I hope he continues to do so--- over, and over, and over again!


27 posted on 01/22/2006 7:44:19 AM PST by Grateful One
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

The only difference between the Rats and Al-Queda is the AQ doesn't hate America nearly as much!!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


28 posted on 01/22/2006 7:51:34 AM PST by bray (President Bush Protects America. The Rats Protect Terrorists.)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL

uh, they want us to lose the war over there... so I can only surmise that they would like us to not find the enemy as well.


29 posted on 01/22/2006 7:52:29 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: defenderSD
It's unsettling to think Gore was only 538 votes away from being POTUS.

He got my vote for POS.

30 posted on 01/22/2006 7:52:55 AM PST by rickmichaels
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To: Bullitt
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31 posted on 01/22/2006 7:55:39 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: samtheman

"The Father of The Internet vs. The Hildabeast vs. The Great Purple Heart."

Who do you think the lefty loons really want as their candidate? I've been to kos, du, and several other moonbat havens and really can't tell who they like or want? I know who they hate, but GWB isn't running and I'm not sure how they translate the hate they have for GWB into action for any candidate.

I really think that they have been so consumed by GWB hatred that there may not be enough passion left for a coherent campaign, regardless of the eventual candidate. It's easy to tell who they are against, but very tough to tell who {and what} they are for.


32 posted on 01/22/2006 8:35:28 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: USS Alaska
Who do you think the lefty loons really want as their candidate?
My guess is the alGore. The Hildabeast is too "pro-war" for them and Kerry is such a pathetic loser that even the left can't stomach the sight of him anymore. I know what you're thinking, isn't the alGore a pathetic loser too? And the answer is: of course. However, I still get the feeling that the adoration expressed on DU for the pathetic loser from TN is real, as is their disinterest in the pathetic loser from MA. Why that should be, I don't have a clue.
33 posted on 01/22/2006 8:44:20 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Reily

Interesting stuff. I didn't know that Gore did so poorly in law school. It certainly takes good intelligence and some hard work to get a Harvard MBA. I went to UCLA grad business school, and while it wasn't as tough as undegrad biochemistry at UCSD, it was rigorous academically and it was no piece of cake.


34 posted on 01/22/2006 11:38:09 AM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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To: rickmichaels
"He got my vote for POS."

Me too. Our nation was 538 votes away from disaster. I try not to think about it.

35 posted on 01/22/2006 12:24:19 PM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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