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Tehran plans a nuclear weapons test before March 20, 2006 the Iranian New Year
DEBKAfile ^ | January 22, 2006, 9:30 AM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 01/22/2006 2:57:22 PM PST by strategofr

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Less than 2 months to go, looks like.
1 posted on 01/22/2006 2:57:25 PM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr

I would think they already have it!


2 posted on 01/22/2006 2:59:52 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: strategofr

DEBKA is not always reliable. What does STRATFOR say?


3 posted on 01/22/2006 3:01:41 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: strategofr

Whew. If DEBKA says it is, it probably isn't.


4 posted on 01/22/2006 3:04:29 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

i read this is in UPI also.


5 posted on 01/22/2006 3:06:28 PM PST by nascar242005
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To: strategofr
Let's hope it goes off as their best Scientists and Technicians try to set it up for the test and takes them and the Lookie-Loo Leadership out all at once.
6 posted on 01/22/2006 3:07:02 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: strategofr

Already posted as:

Tehran plans a nuclear weapons test before March 20, 2006 ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1562793/posts

with links to earlier non-Debka sources.


7 posted on 01/22/2006 3:12:21 PM PST by Boundless
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To: nascar242005; lexington minuteman 1775

I believe the source for this story is the same : NCRI/MEK - a terrorist organization that wants to take over in Iran themselves. Though they have given us some good info in the past, (few yrs ago) their information recently on anything really substantial, has not been reliable.


8 posted on 01/22/2006 3:13:41 PM PST by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: nascar242005

UPI is only slightly more reliable than DEBKA, which ain't saying anything.


9 posted on 01/22/2006 3:15:42 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: strategofr

SURPRISE! Our stealth bombers just left your airspace...and left you with, as we say in the USA, your pants down.

I love pre-emptive strikes, don't you?


10 posted on 01/22/2006 3:16:06 PM PST by RTINSC (There is no guarantee of Success but Failure is guaranteed if you are not successful..)
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To: strategofr
There is a huge difference between a static, underground blast, and a test of a warhead small enough to be carried by a plane, or put in a missile. The real danger is when they get the weapons small enough to deliver with something smaller than a box car.

Israel probably has better intel than the US, on what's going on for real with Iran's nuclear program. For us it is an irritant -- ba large one, but still an irritant. For them, this is life or death. As with the Iraqi nuclear facility that they destroyed in 1981 (right year?), at some point Israel will have to act, regardless of what the US, UN, EU, or any one else is doing. But that time will not come before 20 March.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "On Judge Alito, the San Francisco Chronicle is Unfit to be a Newspaper"

11 posted on 01/22/2006 3:16:17 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Hillary! delendum est.)
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To: nascar242005
i read this is in UPI also.

Eye red it two.

12 posted on 01/22/2006 3:17:44 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Boundless; nascar242005; lexington minuteman 1775

It appears Ken Timmerman's group (The Foundation for Democracy) is also reporting this.


13 posted on 01/22/2006 3:18:42 PM PST by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: Boundless

This seems to be DUMBKA yet again simply repackaging info already publicly reported as supposedly coming from their secret inside sources (which don't exist, as best I can tell.)


14 posted on 01/22/2006 3:21:43 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: strategofr; Dog Gone

Aslong as this president remains "the president" I promise there wil be a preimptive strike.


15 posted on 01/22/2006 3:26:52 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

That's possible, but if it's before March 20 of this year, I'll eat my hat.

And it's a pretty big hat.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 3:29:00 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: strategofr

Iran's nuke capability is either a few weeks or few years away, take your pick.

I believe that they could have acquired pre-fabbed, clandestinely built their own AND are working to produce more.


17 posted on 01/22/2006 3:31:19 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: strategofr

an Iranian underground nuclear blast, which will most probably be attempted on March 22, would turn around the strategic position of all the parties concerned and the Middle East as whole.

Not really, it would instead INSURE a strike on Iran.


18 posted on 01/22/2006 3:31:37 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Dog Gone

LOL now we're down to the day! But why the 20th, I'm shooting from the hip myself?


19 posted on 01/22/2006 3:32:28 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Dog Gone

elections?


20 posted on 01/22/2006 3:33:03 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: strategofr

I dont look for this to happen. If Tehran does an underground test of a nuclear device it makes them outright liars, It states in no uncertain terms that they arent looking for Nuclear energy, but nuclear war. It would send a message to all that Iran has become to dangerous to be allowed to exist as it is now.

I believe an underground explosion of a nuclear test would force the rest of the world to take Iran by force .I think even France and Germany at that point would stop waving the white flags.


21 posted on 01/22/2006 3:35:15 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: strategofr

Iran can't test a nuke that soon.

Won't happen.

22 posted on 01/22/2006 3:36:04 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Steveone

They already have them courtesy of Pakistan and/or North Korea.


23 posted on 01/22/2006 3:36:18 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: DainBramage

Well, that's the supposed theory for the date.


24 posted on 01/22/2006 3:37:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Gravy is good on hats, I've had it.


25 posted on 01/22/2006 3:41:45 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: jimbo123

Agreed!


26 posted on 01/22/2006 3:43:49 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: DainBramage

I hope I don't find out firsthand.


27 posted on 01/22/2006 3:44:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

"DEBKA is not always reliable."

ROFL!

Now that Debka says it, I can rest easy knowing it WONT happen.


28 posted on 01/22/2006 4:01:15 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: sgtbono2002
I believe an underground explosion of a nuclear test would force the rest of the world to take Iran by force.

Iran's first test of Nuclear Weapon will be a "live" test over Israel....

Iran knows they have one chance to take out the bulk of Israels response. The Muslim plan is that there are more Muslims than Jews, and we already know that they consider martyrdom for "the cause" to be acceptable ... even if it isnt voluntary.

29 posted on 01/22/2006 4:08:58 PM PST by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: strategofr

Seems like we should drop a nuke on them on March 22 from about 40,000 feet and say "Holy Cow.... I can't believe they attempted an above ground detonation!"


30 posted on 01/22/2006 4:14:48 PM PST by kjam22
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To: strategofr

Well I was wondering if there might be any truth to this rumor, and was suspicious it wasn't true ( the setting of a hard date that is ).

But then I saw it in Debka.............


31 posted on 01/22/2006 4:33:23 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Cobra64

;Eye red it two.

LOL. Were u edumakated in the publik skuls two ?


32 posted on 01/22/2006 4:34:44 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: strategofr
The question now is: will the United States, Israel or both deliver a pre-emptive strike ahead of the Iranian underground test - or later?

Is U.S. sponsored assassination still illegal?

33 posted on 01/22/2006 4:39:12 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: strategofr

It appears that the extremist Muslim plan is to nuke Israel. If I was Israeli, it would never happen.


34 posted on 01/22/2006 4:42:45 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: DainBramage

"But why the 20th"

Iranian new year, apparently


35 posted on 01/22/2006 4:57:53 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: DainBramage

"elections?"

Israeli


36 posted on 01/22/2006 4:58:26 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: F16Fighter

" Is U.S. sponsored assassination still illegal?"

no.


37 posted on 01/22/2006 4:58:53 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Optimist

"Iran's first test of Nuclear Weapon will be a "live" test over Israel...."

not practical. expertise must first be developed.


38 posted on 01/22/2006 5:00:28 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Southack

"Iran can't test a nuke that soon.

Won't happen."

How do you know?


39 posted on 01/22/2006 5:01:12 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: strategofr
North Korea’s in 2001

Did I miss something?

40 posted on 01/22/2006 5:02:32 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Optimist
Iran's first test of Nuclear Weapon will be a "live" test over Israel....

I'd say the potential for that is high...They have one shot and that's it...

The question is, will we allow them that one shot, even if we aren't 100% sure that's what they are up to...

41 posted on 01/22/2006 5:29:12 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: festus
`skuls

Din't they never teach you to spel? Everbody knows it speled skools.

42 posted on 01/22/2006 5:55:19 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Iran: We have to be cruel to be kind.)
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To: strategofr
"How do you know?"

Because 64 Uranium gas centrifuges can't produce enough enriched Uranium in that amount of time.

To which, someone who knows little or nothing about nukes might ignorantly reply that Iran "otherwise" obtained a nuke...but if that was the case, Iran would have already tested it for one thing, and for another thing Iran wouldn't have publicly broken the UN monitoring seals on the 64 Uranium gas centrifuges...

...Because breaking those seals has brought about worldwide pressure against Iran, as well as hyper-alerted the Israelis...something that a real nuclear power in that region would have wanted to avoid prior to their first strike.

So that's how I know. It's physics (e.g. Uranium enrichment) and geostrategy (e.g. the element of surprise is gone once you publicly break those UN monitoring seals).

It's not even debatable.

Bookmark my posts. Bookmark this thread.

Iran will *not* test a nuke on or before March 22, 2006.

You can take that fact to the bank, and I will *ridicule* anyone on this thread who says otherwise...because I too am bookmarking this thread and I'll revisit it after March 22.

43 posted on 01/22/2006 7:00:57 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Yada, yada, yada.....As I see it, the life blood of Iran is their oil exports, no oil exports, no money, no messin around. That said, suppose the next five tankers heading for Iran should suddenly sink. Said sinkings attributed to our new best friends, the "Committee For a Free Iran.." Right off, the insurers of targeted third world registered ships would drop coverage or quadruple rates. Ok, sink the next five, there goes coverage. So Iran flags their own ships..our "friends" sink em...What is Iran to do? Can their "navy" protect these vessels, not only in the straits but elsewhere, don't think so. Call on their allies to help out, don't think so. Go to the UN, now that's an idea...

The main obstacle, while most of these ships are registered in third world countries, countries with little recourse to protecting said vessels, they are owned by European and American intrests, owners that would scream bloody hell in the halls of London and Washington. If we are serious, as we should be, actioned as described above should be allowed with no interference from Western powers...This could be a short term solution to what is shaping into a long term and costly problem...Oh, just thought of a possible problem for some people, the Iranians charter Western ships, Swedish, Canadian etc..But then, good luck Sweden and Canada tracking down the "Committee for a Free Iran."

44 posted on 01/22/2006 7:02:46 PM PST by ChEng
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To: F16Fighter
Is U.S. sponsored assassination still illegal?

Since it was made illegal by an executive order, I would think it only takes an executive order to make it NOT illegal. The question becomes: can it be done without public knowledge or Democratic oversight leaking it for political reasons.

45 posted on 01/22/2006 8:18:23 PM PST by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: ChEng

Actually, that would be, "Iranian Committee for a Free Iran.."


46 posted on 01/22/2006 8:18:50 PM PST by ChEng
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To: ChEng

Only problem is that the economic collapse in Iran would be rivaled by the economic collapse in the western world as half the oil is in Iran.

Revelations 6 3rd horsemen...


47 posted on 01/22/2006 11:40:05 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: strategofr

I'd have an easier time believing this if we had more than one source to go on and more details about the nature of the device - where did it come from? NK? Pakistan?


48 posted on 01/22/2006 11:40:54 PM PST by fragrant abuse
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To: Eagles6

"North Korea’s in 2001

Did I miss something?"

An error, I think.


49 posted on 01/23/2006 9:20:02 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Southack

"something that a real nuclear power in that region would have wanted to avoid prior to their first strike."

Your whole post makes sense. But what are they trying to do? This is what I can't figure out.


50 posted on 01/23/2006 9:22:13 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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