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Portsmouth Shipyard to Have Three Carriers at Once
AP ^ | 22 Jan 2006

Posted on 01/22/2006 7:45:33 PM PST by DYngbld

The Norfolk Naval Shipyard, which typically handles just one aircraft carrier at a time, will be home to three carriers at once this fall, said Navy Capt. Joseph Campbell, the yard's commanding officer.

The three carriers make up one-quarter of the nation's flattop fleet and are scheduled to be in the yard simultaneously for several weeks.

The USS Harry S. Truman arrived at the yard Jan. 9. It will be joined by the USS Theodore Roosevelt in September and the USS George Washington in October. The Truman is scheduled to depart in November.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bigdeck; carriers; navy; norfolk; portsmouth; shipmovement; ships; usn; ussgeorgewashington; ussharrystruman; usstheodoreroosevelt
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1 posted on 01/22/2006 7:45:35 PM PST by DYngbld
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To: DYngbld

Great target for the Japanese.......


2 posted on 01/22/2006 7:47:24 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: DYngbld

That doesn't sound very prudent to be doing during wartime. Unless of course they getting ready for a bigger one, say for, Iran.


3 posted on 01/22/2006 7:47:52 PM PST by diverteach
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To: DYngbld

Is that particularly smart, given the capacity of a rogue nuke to summarily destroy one area?


4 posted on 01/22/2006 7:48:11 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

Oh please.

Don't you know you are supposed to cut military bases and have less bases for your military when you are in the nuclear age. /s


5 posted on 01/22/2006 7:50:27 PM PST by Tyche (A half truth is a whole lie)
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To: DYngbld

I see everyone has the same first thought.

This many carriers in one place is a very tempting target.


6 posted on 01/22/2006 7:51:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: DYngbld
I'd hate to be one of the sailors looking for a place to park my car!
7 posted on 01/22/2006 7:51:33 PM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: Cicero

Ditto.


8 posted on 01/22/2006 7:52:32 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: DYngbld

I imagine the NSA will pick up interesting chatter as certain people begin discussing the possibilities.


9 posted on 01/22/2006 7:52:55 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: DYngbld

hooters to open a new mega resturant in portsmouth


10 posted on 01/22/2006 7:53:13 PM PST by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: diverteach

I'd love to see those three flattops together. The sight of all that American steel in one place would be an awesome sight. Still, it isn't prudent to have that many expensive eggs in one basket. Too much risk of something going wrong.


11 posted on 01/22/2006 7:53:54 PM PST by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED.)
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To: Cicero
I see everyone has the same first thought. This many carriers in one place is a very tempting target.

For what? A Venzuelan attack? Get real.

12 posted on 01/22/2006 7:54:49 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: ClearCase_guy
No they won't. The terrorists have no doubt changed their communication tactics by now. The NSA might not have adapted, thanks to traitors.
13 posted on 01/22/2006 7:54:55 PM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: SteveMcKing

Responses 2 thru 4 express my thoughts exactly. Anyone know if this "clustering" of high value targets is the result of base closures?


14 posted on 01/22/2006 7:59:33 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: taxesareforever
Right on. A lot of FReepers are quite a bit paranoid. LOOK OUT! THE TERRISTS GONNA ATTAQ THE CARRIERS!

Islamic Murderers normally don't target the military, they attack civilians. They can't beat the military. They can beat public opinion.

15 posted on 01/22/2006 8:01:11 PM PST by xrp
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To: DYngbld

thats bound to be quite a sudden boom in population for them too...


16 posted on 01/22/2006 8:03:22 PM PST by leda (One brown eyed babe who's headed for a better life.)
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To: burzum

No kidding, it is a zoo there with only one carrier. I Can't imagine what it will be like. Glad I don't have to deal with that mess.


17 posted on 01/22/2006 8:04:06 PM PST by DYngbld
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To: diverteach
Just a few miles down river they can dock 4 of them at once. I've got a copy of a picture of 4 carriers at NOB Norfolk docked in numerical order. But you're right far too many Naval assets are parked in Norfolk at once. I wonder why Newport News Ship Yards across the river wasn't used for one of them? It is the builder of these ships.

On the plus side maybe and hopefully the Navy learned from past mistakes for not having needed yard times during the first Gulf War. The only other permanent carrier port on the east coast is Mayport, Florida and I think it is a one carrier pier from what I remember.

These sound like the needed three month down times between deployments ships require. A carrier maintenance cycle is a one year overhaul every 5 years plus a three month yard period after each 6 month cruise. It takes from the yard to a deployment about 6 months of work ups for training before the six month deployment.

18 posted on 01/22/2006 8:05:21 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

USSWashington ping


19 posted on 01/22/2006 8:06:40 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: NCC-1701
We had four in port here around Christmas time. It is cool to look across the water and see them all sitting there.
20 posted on 01/22/2006 8:07:23 PM PST by DYngbld
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To: xrp

Right on!


21 posted on 01/22/2006 8:08:25 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: DYngbld
No kidding, it is a zoo there with only one carrier. I Can't imagine what it will be like. Glad I don't have to deal with that mess.

Yep in 80 they had two one was us and we were in the drydock. Portsmouth is not a fun place from the times I remember. That's why during overhaul I rented a place with a Bosun in Oceanview.

22 posted on 01/22/2006 8:11:00 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: DYngbld
Good shot in the arm for the local merchants during the time the ships are in port.

Hooters should do a box-office business.

Leni

23 posted on 01/22/2006 8:14:12 PM PST by MinuteGal ("FReeps Ahoy 4" thread is up. Click red "4" in Keywords list on top of "Latest Posts" page)
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To: Cicero

Last time I was in San Diego, there were two carrier in port. I suspect that this is not all that unusual an event.


24 posted on 01/22/2006 8:17:37 PM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: xrp
Right on. A lot of FReepers are quite a bit paranoid. LOOK OUT! THE TERRISTS GONNA ATTAQ THE CARRIERS! Islamic Murderers normally don't target the military, they attack civilians. They can't beat the military. They can beat public opinion.

Have you ever been to Norfolk? If you have you know the concerns and it isn't just the carriers. It's a logistical nightmare land defense wise. Think about this and this doesn't violate loose lips policies. Straight across the river from Norfolk is the sole ship building company in the United States left that is capable of producing even a conventional aircraft carrier.

25 posted on 01/22/2006 8:19:29 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Al B.

Ping


26 posted on 01/22/2006 8:24:19 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
Last time I was in San Diego, there were two carrier in port. I suspect that this is not all that unusual an event.

Courtesy of Google Earth. Two Carriers @ Norfolk.


27 posted on 01/22/2006 8:26:35 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: DYngbld

Isn't the Carl Vinson in RCOH at Newport News?

If my count is correct, that would mean that the Eisenhower and the Kennedy would be the only two ships available for the Atlantic and Med.

Except, wasn't the Kennedy tagged for early retirement before then? Will it even be in service at that point?


28 posted on 01/22/2006 8:30:59 PM PST by PAR35
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To: cva66snipe
It's a logistical nightmare land defense wise.

So the terrists gonna charge the flattops from land?

29 posted on 01/22/2006 8:50:18 PM PST by xrp
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To: AZRepublican

Rumor has it that the salvaged metals are going to be sold to China in which they plan to build up their arsonal.

Do some history on the company and I bet you find they are a faux American company you can trace to Indonesia.

That is all I can share.


30 posted on 01/22/2006 8:53:12 PM PST by Global2010 (St. Kolbe Militia Immaculata Ministries)
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To: Cicero
This many carriers in one place is a very tempting target.

Some raghead in an ultra light gonna kamakazi onto the carrier deck?

31 posted on 01/22/2006 8:57:17 PM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: xrp

That is exactly correct. Nevertheless, a nuke going off near would not only cause horrendous civilian casualties but take out 3 carrier battle groups. On the surface, it sure is a risk we, for example, wouldn't have taken during cold war.

On the other hand, this implies to me that they don't consider terrorst threat high enough to be concerned about the carriers. I'm sure the bigger problem is how to entertain all the crews.

If the terrorists had a nuke they'd have used it by now.


32 posted on 01/22/2006 8:58:18 PM PST by farlander
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To: Global2010

Sorry all I was thinking of the salvage of the Moth ball fleet.

They have them ready although to tear the fleet up and then do what I posted up above.

It is a private salvage Company not the US Military that will be scrapping the fleet out.


33 posted on 01/22/2006 9:00:09 PM PST by Global2010 (St. Kolbe Militia Immaculata Ministries)
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To: NCC-1701
>>>I'd love to see those three flattops together.<<<

San Diego regularly has two CV's tied up at Coranado Island naval base - and I think I have seen three at one time on occasion.

Any San Diego Freeper types out there - do I remember rightly?

34 posted on 01/22/2006 9:06:25 PM PST by HardStarboard
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35 posted on 01/22/2006 9:16:31 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Two carriers@ Norfolk - side view


36 posted on 01/22/2006 9:17:12 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: xrp
So the terrists gonna charge the flattops from land?

They could do that and much worse. Private reply.

37 posted on 01/22/2006 9:20:49 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: diverteach

Shouldn't we have some of these ships stationed around hotspots... Or Maybe we have some in hotspots now and just have a few extras, just in case?


38 posted on 01/22/2006 9:24:04 PM PST by lmr (Merry Christmas!)
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To: diverteach
I agree completely. And, we will probably need at least one of these carriers when the balloon goes up --probably in the fall --with IRAN.

Tho other naval assets needed for the strike package can be garnered from re-adjusting/extending current deployment/upkeep schedules.

This is not idle chat. I suspect the gauntlet will be thrown sometime this summer. We cannot let Iran nuke up !!
39 posted on 01/22/2006 9:24:09 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: COEXERJ145; SlowBoat407; cva66snipe

July 4th, 1997

40 posted on 01/22/2006 9:27:05 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: DYngbld
I really wish the American Press would stop telling everyone in the world just how much of our hardware is going to be 'where' and for 'how long' Jesus hasn't anyone learned that 'loose lips sink ships'?
41 posted on 01/22/2006 9:29:38 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: endthematrix

Looks like two Marine assault ships/carriers there as well.


42 posted on 01/22/2006 9:37:32 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: endthematrix

That is insanity. Neat picture but someone needs their seat kicked for such stupidity. By the picture you show that would make 6 likely 7 carriers all in strike range of each other. Folks that right there is one of the reasons we got hit on 9/11. No I'm not blaming the Navy for the terrorist deeds but that is not a show of force that is a show of arrogance and stupidity berthing carriers like that. The stars in the Pentagon who approved this needed relieved of duty. I see it was Clinton's watch when it happened. 25 years ago you could not have put but three carriers at NOB Norfolk period. Pier 12 & one side of pier 7 was it. But here's the real irony to it. We had more ships in 1980 than now.


43 posted on 01/22/2006 9:44:58 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Shadowstrike
I really wish the American Press would stop telling everyone in the world just how much of our hardware is going to be 'where' and for 'how long' Jesus hasn't anyone learned that 'loose lips sink ships'?

Any Schmuck with a car can see all this information from the interstate. It's no secret. It was no secret in the Cold War as to what carriers were in port you could drive by and count for yourself. The main thing was to not bring them all in at one time and say nanna nanna boo boo to crack pots that may see opportunity in it.

44 posted on 01/22/2006 9:49:08 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Global2010

Our Walmart purchases will fuel that more I think.


45 posted on 01/22/2006 9:50:12 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: cva66snipe

true, but withholding it from the news, you'd only have to worry about 'local' crack-pots, not a sudden surge of them.


46 posted on 01/22/2006 9:57:13 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
true, but withholding it from the news, you'd only have to worry about 'local' crack-pots, not a sudden surge of them.

Nope it's got plenty of foreign nationals also. About 2 miles or less up the river are the International Commerical Piers. The ones foreign nations like to pull into and their crews walk away.

47 posted on 01/22/2006 9:59:23 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: DYngbld

If I was a science fiction writer, I'd make up something crazy about all those carriers getting some new high-tech nuclear powered upgrade that would let each of them defend a very lare area from incoming missiles.
Doggone it, that whole "loose lips" thing is so frustrating sometimes!


48 posted on 01/22/2006 10:08:01 PM PST by Ostlandr ("In a mature society, the terms 'civil servant' and 'civil master' are semantically equal." -RAH)
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To: cva66snipe

well all we can hope for then is that they will have lots, and lots of security.


49 posted on 01/22/2006 10:12:34 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: DYngbld

Great Idea Barney!


50 posted on 01/22/2006 10:13:49 PM PST by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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