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Healthy People 2010
CDC, USDA, NIH, NCHS, Various ^

Posted on 01/23/2006 8:16:52 AM PST by Calpernia

Before Bill Clinton left office, he authorized 2001 an 84% increase in the government's investment in nanotechnology research and development, National Nanotechnology Initiative (NNI) and made it a top priority.

What has not been publicly realized is the meaning of this initiative and the various components that are encompassed.

This governmental increase has been combined with non-governemental organizations and grant programs. These NGOs have been creating partnerships with existing governmental agencies and masking initiatives as Federal and State grant reward programs. They are not.

Here, at the CDC is an overview of what is called, Healthy People 2010. As you can see from this link, the initiative is driven with 28 different categories. All of these categories have grant award programs that are awarding monies through various agencies to promote 'a healthy intiative program'. Some of the programs alone, sound harmless. When they are tied together though, they are disturbing.

Former (EX!) President Clinton's budget for his NATIONAL NANOTECHNOLOGY INITIATIVE is fueled by funding from the National Nanotechnology Initiative, National Science Foundation, National Institutes of Health, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Energy and the Department of Defense in combination with private and nonprofit funds from non-governmental organizations.

These funds now make available monies for grant projects for:
Focus Areas at a Glance (28)
1. Access to Quality Health Services
2. Arthritis, Osteoporosis and Chronic Back Conditions
3. Cancer
4. Chronic Kidney Disease
5. Diabetes
6. Disability and Secondary Conditions
7. Educational and Community-Based Programs
8. Environmental Health
9. Family Planning
10. Food Safety
11. Health Communication
12. Heart Disease and Stroke
13. HIV
14. Immunizations and Infectious Diseases
15. Injury and Violence Prevention
16. Maternal, Infant, and Child Health
17. Medical Product Safety
18. Mental Health and Mental Disorders
19. Nutrition and Overweight
20. Occupational Safety and Health
21. Oral Health
22. Physical Activity and Fitness
23. Public Health Infrastructure
24. Respiratory Diseases
25. Sexually Transmitted Diseases
26. Substance Abuse
27. Tobacco Use
28. Vision and Hearing

When an association, state, or company applies for the grants to fund these initiatives, in turn they authorize a Freedom of Information Release to all their data. This is a sample of the data collected from a grant application. All the data requirements are the same, the only difference is the partnered agency that is acting as a liaison for relaying the data. Example, this one below is using the USDA as the partnered liaison. If this was a hospital application, it would say the CDC.

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Other Federal Statutes and Regulations That Apply

Several Federal statutes and regulations apply to proposals considered for review and to grants awarded by USDA. These include, but are not limited to:
7 CFR part 1.1--USDA implementation of the Freedom of Information Act.
7 CFR part 15a--USDA implementation of title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
7 CFR part 3015--USDA Uniform Federal Assistance Regulations.
7 CFR part 3016--Uniform Administrative Requirements for Grants and Cooperative Agreements to State and Local Governments.
7 CFR part 3017--Governmentwide Debarment and Suspension (nonprocurement) and Governmentwide Requirements for drug-free workplace (grants).
7 CFR part 3018--New Restrictions on Lobbying.
7 CFR part 3019--Uniform Administrative Requirements for Grants and Agreements with Institutions of Higher Education, Hospitals, and Other Nonprofit Organizations.
7 CFR part 3052--Audits of State, Local Governments, and Non-Profit Organizations.
The terms of the above parts will be incorporated in a grant made by the NSIIC.

(snip) 7. Further Provisions. This section establishes further provisions that must be understood and agreed to by the Grantee.
(a) All of the terms and provisions of the application submitted by the Grantee for this SGIGI, including any attachments, amendments or conditions that are otherwise not in conflict with this Agreement are attached to and incorporated into this agreement. Any changes to these documents or this Agreement must be approved in writing by the Grantor,
(b) Grantee certifies that it is in compliance with, and will comply in the course of the Agreement with grant conditions and all applicable laws, regulations, Executive Orders, or other applicable requirements,
(c) The provisions of the following are incorporated into this Agreement by reference: 7 CFR part 3015--``USDA Uniform Federal Assistance Regulations''; 7 CFR part 3016--``Uniform Administrative Requirements for Grants and Cooperative Agreements to State and Local Governments''; 7 CFR part 3017--``Governmentwide Debarment and Suspension (Nonprocurement) and Governmentwide Requirements for Drug-Free Workplace (Grants)''; 7 CFR part 3018--``New Restrictions on Lobbying''; 7 CFR part 3019--``Uniform Administrative Requirements for Grants and Agreements with Institutions of Higher Education, Hospitals, and Other Nonprofit Organizations''; and 7 CFR part 3052--``Audits of State, Local Governments, and Non-Profit Organizations,''
(d) The Grantee shall not encumber, transfer or dispose of any property, equipment or other asset, or any part thereof, acquired wholly or in part with Grantor funds without the written consent of the Grantor,
(e) Grantees shall adequately control and safeguard all assets associated with the grant to ensure that they are used solely for authorized purposes,
(f) Grantor shall monitor performance in accordance with the applicable terms of the Agreement. Grantor reserves the right to monitor meetings and request documents applicable to the terms of the Agreement.
8. Assurances. Grantee has executed.
(a) Form AD-1047, ``Certification Regarding Debarment, Suspension, and Other Responsibility Matters--Primary Covered Transactions,'' to certify that your organization is not debarred or suspended from Government assistance,
(b) AD-1048, ``Certification Regarding Debarment, Suspension, Ineligibility and Voluntary Exclusion--Lower Tier Covered Transactions,'' from anyone you do business with as a result of this Government assistance,
(c) AD-1950, ``Certification Regarding a Drug-Free Workplace Requirements (Grants)'' to certify you will provide a drug-free awareness program for employees,
(d) RD 400-1, ``Equal Opportunity Agreement,''
(e) ``Certification Regarding Lobbying--Contracts, Grants, Loans and Cooperative Agreement.''
9. Accounting, Audits and Reporting Requirements.
(a) Generally Accepted Accounting Principles: The Grantee agrees to account for all amounts associated with this grant using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Records must at least include:
(i) financial records that identify the source of all funds used for grant-supported activities, including Grant Funds, any matching funds, other funds, and;
(ii) source documentation to support activities.
(b) Audit: The project will be audited by a Certified Public Accountant annually or as otherwise agreed to in writing by the Grantor. All audits will be in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. The audit for the years the Grantee receives this financial assistance will be conducted in accordance with 7 CFR part 3052. Audits are due within 90 days after September 30 of the respective year and the Grantor is to receive a copy of this audit,
(c) Reports: The grantee will provide periodic reports as required by the Grantor. A financial status report and a project performance report will be submitted by the Grantee on a semi-annual basis (due each March 31 and September 30). The financial status report must show how Grant Funds and any matching funds have been used to date and project the funds needed and their purposes for the next six-month period. A final report may serve as the last semi-annual report.

Grantees shall constantly monitor performance to ensure that time schedules are being met and projected goals by time periods are being accomplished. The project performance report and final report shall include at least:
(i) A comparison of timeline, tasks and objectives outlined in the proposal as compared to the actual accomplishments,
(ii) If report varies from the stated objectives or they were not met, the reasons why established objectives were not met,
(iii) Problems, delays, or adverse conditions which will materially affect attainment of planned project objectives,
(iv) Objectives established for the next reporting period, and
(v) Status of compliance with any special conditions on the use of awarded funds.
(d) Proposal Results: Grantee shall deliver the results of any study or activity to the Grantor upon completion of each task outlined in the proposal. These include, but are not limited to, feasibility studies, marketing plans, business operations plans, articles of incorporation and bylaws. All items delivered to the Grantor will be held as proprietary information to the extent provided by law.
(e)
Record Retention: Financial records, supporting documents, statistical records, and all other records pertinent to the grant must be kept for a period of at least 3 years after grant closing, except that the records shall be retained beyond the 3-year period if audit findings have not been resolved. Microfilm or photocopies or similar methods may be substituted in lieu of original records. The Grantor and the Comptroller General of the United States, or any of their duly authorized representatives, shall have access to any books, documents, papers, and records of the Grantee's which are pertinent to the specific grant program for the purpose of making audits, examinations, excerpts, and transcripts.
10. Funding.
(a) Payment: Requests for cash advances should be for the minimum amount needed and timed to the actual, immediate cash requirements for carrying out the grant purpose. The funds will be reimbursed or advanced based on submission of Standard Form 270, ``Request for Advance or Reimbursement.''
(b) Distribution of Funds: Once the Agreement is entered into, grant funds will be transferred electronically to an account specified by the Grantee.
(c) Pre-award costs: The grantee may incur or claim no cost prior to the Effective Date as provided for in this Agreement.
11. Code of Conduct and Conflict of Interest.
Conflict of interest for the purpose of this Agreement is defined in 7 U.S.C. 2008j and Grantee agrees to disclose any conflict of interest to Grantor.
12. Other Parties. This Agreement is not for the benefit of third parties. Grantor shall not be under any obligation to any such parties, whether directly or indirectly interested in this Agreement, to pay any charges or expenses incidental to compliance by Grantee with any of the duties or obligations imposed hereby.
13. Event of Default and Remedies.
(a) Events of Default of Grantee. By delineation and not limitation, any of the following occurrences shall be an ``event of default''. Written notice of default shall be provided within 90 days of such occurrence of an event of default:
(i) Any representation or warranty made by the Grantee in connection with this Agreement shall prove to have been false or misleading in any material respect on or as of the date made or deemed made,
(ii) Failure, inability or unwillingness of Grantee to carry out or comply with the terms or conditions of this Agreement, or any applicable laws,
(iii) The Grantee becomes insolvent, or ceases being able, or admits in writing to its inability to pay its debts as they mature, suspends its business operations, become a debtor in a bankruptcy proceeding or makes a general assignment for the benefit of, or enters into any composition or arrangement with, creditors, proceeds with the appointment of a receiver, trustee or liquidator, or like action and is not dismissed within 90 days.
(iv) A judgement or other like order for payment is rendered against the Grantee or any material adverse change occurs in the Grantee's financial condition.
(v) Submission or making of any report, statement, warranty, or representation by Grantee or agent on its behalf to Grantor in connection with the grant hereunder which is false, incomplete or incorrect in any material respect.
(b) Remedies:
(i) Upon the occurrence and during the continuation of any event of default, Grantor shall have no obligation to continue funding the Grantee as contemplated in this Agreement. Accordingly, Grantor shall suspend operations contemplated by this Agreement until the declaration of default is cured and Grantor notifies in writing such acknowledgment of cure,
(ii) The Grantee shall have 60 days from the notice of default to propose remedies and cures to Grantor to remove the event of default,
(iii) Grantor reserves the right to waive any and all events of default. Exercise of this waiver shall not preclude Grantor from declaring a similar future event as an event of default.
14. Notice. All notices hereunder and for whatever purpose, including declaration of default, shall be in writing and shall be deemed to be duly given upon delivery if personally delivered or sent by telecommunication (facsimile or e-mail) or 3 days after mailing if sent by express, certified or registered United States Postal Service mail, to the parties. The grantees address and contact person shall be the one provided on SF 424 and the Grantor shall be the National Sheep Industry Improvement Center, USDA, PO Box 23483, Washington, DC 20026-3483, if using the U.S. Postal Service or Room 2117, South Agriculture Building, 1400 Independence Avenue, SW., Washington, DC 20250 if using other carriers.
15. Amendments, Termination and Changes. The Agreement may be amended, changed or terminated by mutual consent of the parties in writing.
(a) Amendment: This Agreement may be amended with the mutual written consent of the Parties.
(b) Scope of Work: Any changes in project costs, source of funds, scope of services, or any other changes in the project or applicant must be reported to and approved by the Grantor by written amendment of this Agreement. Any changes not approved by the Grantor shall be cause for deobligating grant funding.
(c) Termination: The Agreement may be terminated by either party upon 30 days' notice in writing to the other party.
16. Conflict. Nothing herein is intended to conflict with current USDA directives. If the terms of this agreement are inconsistent with existing law or agency directives, then those portions of this agreement which are determined to be inconsistent shall be invalid, but the remaining terms and the agreement will remain in effect. All necessary changes will be accomplished either by an amendment to this agreement or by entering into a new agreement, whichever is deemed expedient to the interest of both parties.
17. In witness whereof, Grantee has this day authorized and caused this Agreement to be executed by:

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What the schools, states, associations, and hospitals are doing, when they take the grant money, they are turning over the data, your data.

Example, under initiative 10. Food Safety, The National Animal Identification System (NAIS) is being mandated to livestock producers.

About the NAIS:

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Foodborne diseases have declined significantly, said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention April 29. In its annual report on the incidence of infections from foodborne pathogens, CDC noted significant declines from 1996 to 2003 in illnesses caused by E. coli O157:H7 (42 percent), Salmonella (17 percent), Campylobacter (28 percent) and Yersinia (49 percent). Illnesses caused by Salmonella Typhimurium (typically associated with meat and poultry) decreased by 38 percent. Most significantly, between 2002 and 2003, illnesses caused by E. coli O157:H7, typically associated with ground beef, dropped by 36 percent. The reduction in E. coli O157:H7 illnesses brings the United States very close to achieving the “Healthy People 2010”goal of 1.0 case per 100,000 people. The data, while inclusive of all foods, generally tracks the trends revealed through random regulatory testing of meat, poultry and egg products by the Food Safety and Inspection Service. In addition to testing results, recalls for Salmonella, E. coli O157:H7 and Listeria in FSIS regulated products also dropped from 65 in 2002 to 28 in 2003. 

                                                                                      


· Framework for implementing animal ID was announced April 27 by Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman. The National Animal Identification System (NAIS) is designed to identify any agricultural premise exposed to a foreign animal disease so that it can be more quickly contained and eradicated. Implementation of a NAIS will be conducted in three main phases. Under Phase I, USDA would evaluate current federally funded animal identification systems and determine which system(s) should be used for a NAIS, further the dialogue with producers and other stakeholders on the operation of a NAIS, identify staffing needs, and develop any regulatory and legislative proposals needed for implementing the system. Phase II would involve the implementation of the selected animal identification system at regional levels for one or more selected species, continuation of the communication and education effort, addressing regulatory needs and working with Congress on any needed legislation. In Phase III, the selected animal identification system(s) would be scaled up to the national level.

                                                                                                —U.S. Department of Agriculture

It looks like it is being launched from the USDA; but it isn't. The receiving of the data is going through the USDA and the grant monies are being funneled out through the USDA. The the data isn't being stored with the USDA.

World Health Organization

Division of Health Promotion, Education and Communication

12 indicators of the “GLOBAL HEALTH FOR ALL” strategy that were to be assessed by all countries in the world

At least 5% of the Gross National Product to be spent on health; A reasonable percentage of the national health expenditure devoted to local health care; Equal distribution of resources;

(snip)

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Same with the Model School Nutrition Program which falls under 7. Educational and Community-Based Programs and 10. Food Safety programs listed above. Our state just mandated it. So what does that mean? Our state took the grant money. Now, agents of this program get to enter our school systems to gather data and have auditing rights to the schools records.

They have now criminalized the peanut butter and jelly sandwich so these agents can come in and gather information on our children in public and private schools.

1. Target Setting and Assessing Progress for Measurable Objectives

Target-Setting Methods

One of the three overarching goals for the Healthy People 2000 prevention initiative was to reduce health disparities among Americans.1 The framework of Healthy People 2010 has taken this a step further by proposing to “eliminate health disparities” as one of the two primary goals for the next decade.

(snip) Database Description

DATA2010 is a SAS database that contains one record (or observation) for each objective and subpart found in the 28 focus areas. The database will also contain records for the measures used to track the goals and the Leading Health Indicators.

Each record in the database contains the following information:

n

 

Objective number

n

 

Objective text (abbreviated)

n

 

Baseline year

n

 

Baseline data

n

 

Tracking data for subsequent years (future)

n

 

2010 Target

n

 

Comments (definitions, clarifications, and explanations)

n

 

Data source(s)

 

Future Plans

In the future, DATA2010 will contain additional population groups, and include options for chart and map generation. State data are expected to be added to the database, and users will be able to select national and/or State data. There also will be links to the operational definitions in Tracking Healthy People 2010 and to the Healthy People 2010 Web site http://health.gov/healthypeople/. Where available, standard errors of the estimates will be included in the database


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2010; banglist; billclinton; cdc; data2010; grants; healthypeople2010; nais; ngo; ngos; rkba; tagging; umdnj; unitednations; usda
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To: Madame Dufarge
So you knew about these sites? I had no idea until now.

You posted from, Big Brother's Objectives, http://phpartners.org/hp/tobaccouse.html which is linked off of here: phpartners.org

Which is linked off of here:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/otheract/hpdata2010/abouthp.htm

September 2002:  The http://phpartners.org/hp/ Healthy People 2010 Information Access Project is a pilot project to make information and evidence-based strategies related to the Healthy People 2010 objectives easier to find.  The National Library of Medicine and the Public Health Foundation staff have worked together to develop pre-formulated search strategies for selected Healthy People 2010 focus areas. In addition, all focus area chapters have had direct PubMed search links created for references.

See what the header says?


A collaboration of U.S. government agencies, public health organizations and health sciences libraries

This was the basis of my thread :)

21 posted on 01/23/2006 9:37:43 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pirate21

>>>Guess they’re into genetic engineering

This is one of the funded grant programs:

National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI)
http://www.genome.gov/


22 posted on 01/23/2006 9:39:34 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Paulus Invictus

Actually, I think it is Hillary's Health Care project. I have found a number of university hospitals signed on this this and taking funding.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1561077/posts?page=21#21

This initiative was stimulated by President Clinton's commitment to eliminate disparities in health for racial and ethnic minority populations by 2010.


http://www.nidcr.nih.gov/NR/rdonlyres/D2C8F49F-400E-467E-ACF2-6255D6E9FDEA/0/Nadrc0900.pdf
DHHS OFFICE OF HEALTH PROMOTION AND DISEASE PREVENTION
AND THE HEALTHY PEOPLE 2010 INITIATIVE

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Dr. Randy Wykoff, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health for Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, DHHS, presented an overview of Healthy People 2010, including the Leading Health Indicators, and possible ways to maximize this initiative. Healthy People 2010 is coordinated by the DHHS Office for Disease Prevention and Health Promotion.

Dr. Wykoff noted that Healthy People 2010 is a comprehensive set of national 10-year objectives that are developed through a collaborative process involving both the public and private sectors. All the objectives are specific and measurable over time based on data. The document, published and distributed by the Federal Government, also is a statistical description of the health status of Americans, including racial and ethnic disparities; a textbook on current public health priorities; and an important part of the national strategic plan for improving health. Healthy People 2010 is the third iteration of an effort that began in 1979 with publication of the Surgeon General's Report on Health Promotion and Disease Prevention. Ever larger and more complex, this iteration has two overarching goals, 28 focus areas, 467 objectives, and 10 leading health indicators.

(major snip)

Grant Review

The Council considered 327 applications requesting $70,492,343 in total costs. The Council recommended
238 applications for a total cost of $31,211,337 (see Attachment II).

UMDNJ is a publicly interest member of this initiative.

Members:

r. Hillary Brode, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (UMDNJ)- New Jersey Dental School, Newark


23 posted on 01/23/2006 9:43:29 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pirate21

Found that phrase again here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1563271/posts?page=23#23


24 posted on 01/23/2006 9:44:12 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Madame Dufarge
"Increase the average Federal and State tax on tobacco products. (Objective 27-21)"

Otherwise known as perpetuating their no-heavy-lifting jobs.

Big Brother's Objectives

This stuff is downright sickening!  Well, I'm to old now to let them mold ME in the way they want me to go.  I guess our government will just have to shoot me.

I'm so sick of this Big Brother chit I can just scream.  And the lawmakers wondered why we don't trust them any longer.

I feel sorry for anyone under the age of 35 today.  They are in the midst of "Dumbing Down of America!"

25 posted on 01/23/2006 9:56:42 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Calpernia
I wish I could remember the saying that goes something like this - when they came for our (fill in the blank), I didn't mind cause I didn't have any. If anyone know this, I'd appreciate the entire quote.

Also brings to my mind another great saying that goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

26 posted on 01/23/2006 9:57:03 AM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Coleus; wagglebee; Millee; Blurblogger

Here is one of these GRANTS in action!


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563242/posts
UF requirement for partner benefits: You must have sex
Gainsville Sun ^ | 1/23/06 | JACK STRIPLING



So, does the university open all the data for collection? Or just the ones submitting an affidavit?


27 posted on 01/23/2006 9:57:40 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Madame Dufarge; SheLion

Big Brother may be partnering to get this data....

But don't lose site on the fact that it is going to data storage systems NOT OF THE USA!!!!

Maybe it is just me; but I find that worse!


28 posted on 01/23/2006 9:59:22 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 3catsanadog

And I dispute the good intentions.

I'm positive all 28 of those bullets listed is a red herring.

Absolutely no on can convince me that Robert Fourdraine of the Netherlands was concerned about whether there was a cookie or an apple in my kids lunch bag.

The (fill in the blank) program is a nice nice sell to get the data.


29 posted on 01/23/2006 10:01:35 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
I had gone to that healthy people 2010 site and found a link for tracking people which I clicked. I got a blank page.

Hmmmmmmm

Now I've tried to find that link and I can't. Seemed so easy at first.

30 posted on 01/23/2006 10:09:19 AM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Calpernia
But don't lose site on the fact that it is going to data storage systems NOT OF THE USA!!!!

Maybe it is just me; but I find that worse!

Why doesn't that surprise me!  In this day and age with so many "immigrants" moving into the United States, why doesn't this surprise me!

31 posted on 01/23/2006 10:13:55 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: prairiebreeze

Hey Prairie,

Is this why the NAIS language uses the terms 'National Herd'?

>>>d) The Grantee shall not encumber, transfer or dispose of any property, equipment or other asset, or any part thereof, acquired wholly or in part with Grantor funds without the written consent of the Grantor,
(e) Grantees shall adequately control and safeguard all assets associated with the grant to ensure that they are used solely for authorized purposes,


Does this mean, when the grant money is used toward premise registration and tagging, that the animals and premises are no longer the producers? Hence now, 'Stakeholders'?


32 posted on 01/23/2006 10:14:26 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Calpernia, I sure do appreciate the work you did to dig this dirt up! Thank you SO much!
33 posted on 01/23/2006 10:18:38 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

From my other thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1561077/posts
Animal Tagging and SCHOOL LUNCHES???

(snip)

What does School Lunches have to do with Animal Tracking?

They are both tracing back to:

Food Safety Network

The tracking methods of health and nutrition and animal tracking are both going to be using a Nationally Interactive Database.

Livestock
http://www.optibrand.com/uploadedfiles/Animal_ID.pdf

Tracking Healthy People 2010
http://www.healthypeople.gov/Document/html/tracking/THP_PartA.htm


Both of these efforts claim to be a product of the:
Food Safety Network at the University of Guelph


34 posted on 01/23/2006 10:18:57 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Here in Pennsylvania, parents now get an "overweight" report card along with the grade report card at school.

Just a little reminder, if you will, that you child is on the hefty side and please try to watch his weight.

I give it a couple years and then the Child Protective Agencies will remove overweight children from their parents arms on the grounds of abuse.

The powers that be started this with good intentions. Oh my god, there are so many overweight children these days. Perhaps the poor parents can't afford a scale. Well, we will help them out and weigh their children at school!!! Let's all give ourselves a soft, caring, kindness pat on our backs for doing this. Wow, we all feel so much better about ourselves for being so empathetic.

Two years later - dang, these kids still don't look like the kids on Nickolodean - some of them are still overweight. Those parents don't care, they are neglecting them. Call CPS!!!!

Ever see a do-gooder program that was ever reversed, eliminated? No it gets more and more complicated, more governmental employees are hired and guess what - our taxes go up.

Same people who declare to the heavens that women have a right to their own body and to murder their unborn children find that it's different with everything else.

I'm getting on a rant and my blood pressure is rising now. I understand your point at disputing good intentions. I think alot of it is too dang many people with too much time on their hands and new computers.

35 posted on 01/23/2006 10:21:39 AM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: CDHart
What kind of future is it going to be for our kids?

Heard that kind of remark in 1970. Come to think of it, the same remark has been made probably all along through history. But, it does appear that dicey times are coming soon. Some say there are two rational approaches to the problem: optimism and pessimism. There may be a third way: call it what you want, but it amounts to keeping on keeping on.

36 posted on 01/23/2006 10:23:59 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: 3catsanadog

That is one of the grant programs. Do that parents of those children know that data is being collected and given to this NGO database?


37 posted on 01/23/2006 10:35:02 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
From my other thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1561077/posts
Animal Tagging and SCHOOL LUNCHES???

I am appalled.  Funny the MSM doesn't report on THIS junk, eh???

God only knows what is going on behind closed doors and behind our backs.  I guess they think we would never find this.

38 posted on 01/23/2006 10:41:42 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Calpernia

Probably not.


39 posted on 01/23/2006 10:44:03 AM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: SheLion

Like I've said before on the Puff Ping threads. Why doesn't anyone ever say when they go nonsmoking, there are grant entitlements from the Cigarette Restitution Fund.


40 posted on 01/23/2006 10:47:52 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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