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End of the Spear - How About End the Christian Witch Hunt ^ | January 23, 2006 | Barbara Curtis

Posted on 01/24/2006 7:51:17 AM PST by No Fool

I got spammed this morning by Jason Janz with some heroic epic about his own personal crusade to save the Christian world from the terrible threat of The End of the Spear - a movie on the redemption of the native tribe who killed the five missionaries including Jim Elliott and Nate Saint.

The movie had gotten a lot of good Christian press and seemed poised to do well at the box office.

Now Janz is demanding a boycott by us and an apology from the film's producers because of the terrible sin they committed of hiring a homosexual actor to play the part of Nate Saint.

I was rushing out the door this morning but sent this hasty email to the heretofore-unknown-to-me Mr. Jantz:

Jason -

Please consider that the best place for a gay activist to spend time would be surrounded by Christians. Who knows what long-term impact that may have on him, what seeds were being planted, what God will do with it?

I am all for building bridges. It's hard to make a monster of a group of people when there is open communication.

And among those Christians were probably at least a couple adulterers, porn addicts, and so on.

Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors. I think he would want us to not be afraid of associating with sinners. I think he would like it.

Just a few thoughts as I am dashing out to the Blogs4Life conference and the Right to Life March.

Barbara Curtis author of Reaching the Left from the Right (out 8/1/06 - my 7th book, but first one on politics)

When I got home there was no email from Mr. Jantz waiting for me. I checked out his website and found that he has made quite a name for himself with his crusade. Then checked around the blogosphere to find tons of Christians who'd jumped on his bandwagon - with hundreds of words, words, and more words.

This is so sad. I disagree with most everything I read, except my friend Molly's analysis. And not wanting to add to the avalanche of words already, I'll just leave it at what I said to Mr. Jantz, plus a few thoughts:

I can picture God saying to those who cast a homosexual in a Christian film: "Well done, my good and faithful servants." I think he would be very pleased. Honestly. I really, truly do.

I don't think he is pleased at the ranting and raving and gnashing of teeth of the sinners he has so graciously saved who find it so incredibly difficult to relate in a meaningful way with anyone not meeting up to their standards. I agree with those who've asked if we should boycott all products and stores owned by sinners. Should we quit our jobs if our bosses are sinners? We live in a fallen world. Get over it. Be kind and be grateful if you ever have an opportunity like the producers of End of the Spear had to live the Golden Rule and be a true witness to the God they are obviously serving, in the face of all this unwarranted condemnation by those who love to call themselves "Brothers and Sisters in Christ."

I'm sorry, but as someone who wasn't saved until the age of 38 - precisely because of the ridiculous mess Christians have made of Christianity, I do get a little riled up when I see this kind of stuff.

As to whether the content was overtly Christian "enough" for all the very talented and creative bloggers sitting back in judgment, I would beg to point out that the book of Esther never mentions God.

And finally, my memory verse this week:

Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment! James 2:12-13.

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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Far too many preachers and evangelists water down God's truth and refuse to convict sin because they're afraid of alienating people. You see this a lot - but most noticably in some of the larger "Mega-Churches", and mainline liberal denominations.

In total agreement. There's nothing wrong with a big church as long as they become big by boldly preaching the gospel and not by trying to appeal to whatever the public wants. I think we have to remember that to most people, the gospel message will be offensive and a turnoff. Only God's grace will open their hearts to the gospel's saving truth!

41 posted on 01/24/2006 10:55:24 AM PST by Anti-MSM (Conservatives wish 9-11 never happened-liberals pretend it didn't!)
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To: barbaracurtis
Thanks for picking my comment to respond to. I guess my verbal bombs were right on target.

Ummm, I don't see the word repentant in the verses.

Uh, try putting the verses in context, will you?

And how would they become repentant unless Jesus first built a relationship with them?

I notice that Jesus didn't make a practice of going to brothels to seek out prostitutes or to drunken orgies, or to tax offices. These people came seeking HIM. Not vice-versa. That's the first step toward repentance.

Christ's actions regarding the woman taken in adultery are very instructive in this regard. He forgives her sins and urges her to abandon her previous wickedness: "Go and sin no more." Nowhere does he coddle her or make her think that her sins are no big deal or just a "lifestyle choice."

Actually, the people Jesus was most intolerant of were the legalists who enjoyed judging people.

Why? Because they were providing a horrible witness by preaching one thing and doing another. Kind of like preaching that homosexuality is a grave evil, and yet hiring a homosexual activist to be the star of your film. If that's not hypocrisy, it's mighty close to it.

BTW, is there any indication that Chad Allen has repented of his homosexual activism since making this film? If so, that would help your case.
42 posted on 01/24/2006 11:26:35 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: No Fool

An excellent response. There is no need for all of the actors in a Christian film to be Christians. And, in fact, there is no guarantee that the actors who call themselves Christians are in fact following Jesus. The question should be: Does the final product convey a Christian message?

43 posted on 01/24/2006 11:36:09 AM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: No Fool

here, here, Barbara... ditto to everything you wrote...

44 posted on 01/24/2006 12:00:13 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: No Fool

I had less of a problem with Chad Allen portraying Nate & Steve Saint and more of a problem with the lack of the missionaries being portrayed as missionaries (at least like the ones I know). I did not see a Bible or missionaries in prayer at any time. I left feeling like the missionaries could just have easily have been Peace Corp workers. Their spiritual lives (which is a DAILY walk) was non-existant in the film. Heavy emphasis on humanitarian works (food and medicine). The word "saved" was used once. The plan of salvation was never given except for one veiled attempt from one indian to another. Beautiful movie, but very weak in sharing in the gospel. Born again Christians will understand the context, but will an unsaved world?

45 posted on 01/24/2006 12:43:14 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: Essie
If an actor is closely associated with certain ideas, there is a point when no level of acting can blot out those ideas.

It is apparent you have never done any acting or have any experience with the theater.
A trained and dedicated actor can separate the "real" person from the "stage" person.
46 posted on 01/24/2006 12:58:55 PM PST by newcats
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To: N3WBI3

"At the same time we need to love these people, and love does mean telling someone they are in sin and endangering their soul."

Well put brother. Also, bear in mind, that if one persist in unrepentent sin, then one can not hear G-d or see G-d. To rebel against G-d is to separate yourself from him (definition of sin.) Does this mean that the homosexual will lose his soul? We have all fallen short of the glory of G-d. But we must repent and recognize our need for G-d before we can have a relationship with him. The fallacy of homosexual acceptance is that it denies the W-rd of G-d. It is almost impossible for someone to hear the voice of G-d if they are in open rebellion to him. Most of us try to make G-d in our own image (or what we see as our image, not as we really are!) They remember the G-d of Love in the Person of Messiah, but they forgot that G-d is also (and must be) a G-d of justice. All of our sins will be judged, either in this life or after this life; but always by our faith. Our acceptance of the sacrifice is sufficient to pay for our sins--but what does judgement mean? A poor example might be like the Judge in a courtroom--he assigns judgement to fit both the punishment for the crime, but also to reprove the person so that they learn and do the crime no more. As a father, you discipline your child out of love, not out of anger or pleasure--because you realize that if you don't, that little image of you will grow up to be without morality because they have not been taught goodness. What makes homosexuality such an affront to G-d? It denies his existence. A person should turn from this lifestyle because they can not get the blessings of G-d otherwise. Most of the modern churches are selling fire insurance. But what is hell? Hell is to be separated from G-d. What is Heaven? Heaven is to be with G-d.....Many have sought to invoke the Golden Rule as a sign to accept anthing and everything--but if you read what He really said, the Golden Rule means to treat others as you would want to be treated yourself--not a license to accept G-dlessness. In other words, in the spirit of the golden rule, if I commit a wrong, I would hope that someone would tell me in the spirit of love--not just blow me off so as not to offend me.

47 posted on 01/24/2006 2:17:02 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: trebb
The well don't need the attention of doctors

the gist of His remark was that ALL are sick (all have fallen short) but that the tax collectors and prostitutes knew they weren't on the right road as opposed to the priests, etc didn't think they they needed the spiritual help to begin with

48 posted on 01/24/2006 2:23:36 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)
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To: BibChr

They hired actors to appear in a movie...not local theatre. For him to have been given a platform, he would have spoken his own text. I just don't see how you read into this, a direct effort to dysangelize the flock so to speak.

Do you think they delved into questions whether some of the women had had abortions? Perhaps some of them are "loose" too. What if one of the actors were an atheist? What if we find out one of the actors has cuckolded their spouse and is in the process of getting divorced..that's a "public" action.

Sorry, we'll have to agree to disagreeing...This is starting to sound like christian conspiracy theory...don your foil hats!

49 posted on 01/24/2006 2:59:56 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: No Fool

They cast a gay man in this film?

I can't support it then....they clearly are not standing up for what is right. They are essentially enabling the man.

Christians do NOT compromise on truth.

These filmmakers chose to UNEQUALLY YOKE themselves and disobey God's word.

I was going to see the film. No more.

50 posted on 01/24/2006 3:03:10 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: foldspace

Hate the sin and love the sinner is not Biblical.

51 posted on 01/24/2006 3:04:24 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: N3WBI3

We pick on homosexuality a lot because it is in a list of sins that will lead to one being outside the kingdom of God in the NT.

Also, Scripture says sexual sin is worse than other sins.

Homosexuality is not a small sin, and anyone who is homosexual will go to hell. Period. You simply CANNNOT be gay and be saved. It is impossible. That is why it is so serious to spread the Gospel to gays.

Instead of doing so, the makers of this film chose to reward him for his lifestyle and give him more work.

52 posted on 01/24/2006 3:07:02 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: No Fool
The endorsement list reads like a "Whose Who" of People I admire and respect.
Conversely, I've never heard of the boycott leader?
Are we sure its not a poser lefty? GriN
53 posted on 01/24/2006 3:08:14 PM PST by Cindy_Cin
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To: barbaracurtis

Do not ye be unequally yoked with unbelievers, barbara.

54 posted on 01/24/2006 3:11:34 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: barbaracurtis

Your disregard for theology also partly explains why you have come to the emotion-based position you have come to instead of a Scripture-based position.

Yes, we are to love homosexuals and not treat them badly. But, this is different. They not only treated him well, they failed to show him of the need of repentance. That is PART of the Gospel, miss. You have to not only show the love of Christ, but OUR UTTER DEPENDENCE ON HIM AND COMPLETE FALLEN NATURE.

They did not do so, but instead gave him a job and enabled his lifestyle by giving him more money.

55 posted on 01/24/2006 3:14:46 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: InvisibleChurch

We are not just sick, we are dead.

We do not need medicine, we need a Resurrection, and Christ is that.

56 posted on 01/24/2006 3:18:13 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas
We pick on homosexuality a lot because it is in a list of sins that will lead to one being outside the kingdom of God in the NT.

Yes but so is any kind of Lust, all I am saying is you cant minister to someone by saying 'look how much better I am than you Im not Gay and youre going to hell'. You need to say to them, 'you and I need God's saving grace because we are sinners'. Dont mistake this for me being weak on Gays in the church Just as I would not let an adulterer or a fornicator have a place in ministry nor would I allow a homosexual.

Also, Scripture says sexual sin is worse than other sins.

Yes but when Christ teaches of sin does he use use sex or money?

You simply CANNNOT be gay and be saved

You can not be trapped in any sin and be saved! We all sin but to be trapped in unrepentant sin is death.

That is why it is so serious to spread the Gospel to gays.

And abortion doctors, and adulterers, and rapist, everywhere.

Instead of doing so, the makers of this film chose to reward him for his lifestyle and give him more work.

I never stated my position on this, I agree with you that I probably would not have picked him to be in the film for that exact reason. But nor would I have picked a divorced guy living with his girlfriend..

57 posted on 01/24/2006 3:33:55 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Katya

I really don't think you read the essays. I pretty much responded to all that.


58 posted on 01/25/2006 8:11:55 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: No Fool
Phillipians Chapter 1

15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

It is true, that some act in movies with a Christian message for pay (selfish ambition), and some act in them to promote Christ; But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

A few days ago I went and saw this film. It was excellent. I searched Free Republic to see what sort of press it was getting.

I cannot express my shock at the narrow minded legalistic stupidity that attempts to pass as reasoned theology. It did not take Christ one single additional drop of blood to redeem the homosexual than it did to redeem me. Christ did not have to suffer any longer or more intensely to cover the sin of homosexuality, than he did to cover other sins.

It is the religious spirit, the Pharisaical attitude, that facilitated the crucifixion of Christ; and it is that same spirit that views certain sins and certain sinners as more deserving of hell than others.

But I thank God daily that he offers to me the same grace that he offers to the homosexual; and I daresay if I ever sin by beating my breast and saying "I thank you God that I am not like that man- a vile sinner" it will more likely be a stiff-necked hard hearted legalistic 'whitewashed tomb' of the modern day holier-than-thou Pharisaical that I am pointing to than a homosexual who needs God's grace no more than I.

Will Wallace
Seaford, DE
59 posted on 01/25/2006 6:04:51 PM PST by will of the people
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To: will of the people

I concur. Did you read my post (#45)? How did you feel about this aspect of the movie? Taking a step back, would you, if you were lost, understand the missionaries motivation (sharing the Good News)? Am I being obtuse?

PS: There's an article update on the Woadani in World Magazine this week.

60 posted on 01/26/2006 5:24:32 AM PST by TennesseeGirl
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