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Texas border standoff with Mexican military
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 24, 2006

Posted on 01/24/2006 1:14:08 PM PST by Man50D

Texas law enforcement officers and Border Patrol agents engaged in an armed standoff with Mexican military personnel and drug smugglers just inside the United States along the Rio Grande yesterday afternoon.

According to a report in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., both Texas law enforcement and the FBI stated nearly 30 American agents were part of the incident. Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department told the paper Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States.

Border Patrol agents called for backup after seeing that Mexican Army troops had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border – near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso.

Doyal said Hudspeth County deputies and Texas Highway patrol officers arrived shortly afterward.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal told the Bulletin. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

Andrea Simmons, a spokeswoman with the FBI's El Paso office, confirmed the incident, saying, "Bad guys in three vehicles ended up on the border. People with Humvees, who appeared to be with the Mexican army, were involved with the three vehicles in getting them back across."

A Cadillac Escalade reportedly stolen from El Paso was captured, and U.S. officers found 1,477 pounds of marijuana inside.

The Mexican soldiers set fire to one of the Humvees stuck in the river, Doyal indicated.

Doyal emphasized Border Patrol agents and county deputies are not equipped for battle with military personnel.

"Our government has to do something," he told the Bulletin. "It's not the immigrants coming over for jobs we're worried about. It's the smugglers, Mexican military and the national threat to our borders that we're worried about."

Earlier this month, the Department of Homeland Security reported 216 incursions by Mexican soldiers during the past 10 years.


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1 posted on 01/24/2006 1:14:10 PM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D
The Mexican Soldiers better rethink their options.
2 posted on 01/24/2006 1:17:28 PM PST by b4its2late (Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.)
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To: Man50D

I saw this earlier today.

How many will have to die before Bush does anything about an armed invasion? One or two deaths will be effectively ignored if possible.


3 posted on 01/24/2006 1:17:29 PM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: Man50D

Where one step away from militarizing our border with Mexico.


4 posted on 01/24/2006 1:18:01 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: b4its2late


Seemed like an armed bunch of Texans threw the Mexican Army a beating the last time they crossed into Texas...we might just see a sequel to that.


5 posted on 01/24/2006 1:19:33 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Man50D

A big wall, with unmanned automatic MG turrets that shoot and kill anything bigger than a Taco Bell chihuahua setting foot on this side of the river. I'm sure someone can come up with that if given a few billion dollars.


6 posted on 01/24/2006 1:19:52 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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To: citizen

I sure look forward to this being cover in the Media. Sure. Fat chance.


7 posted on 01/24/2006 1:23:20 PM PST by kjo
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To: in hoc signo vinces


Where= We're..oooppps


8 posted on 01/24/2006 1:25:02 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: ElectricStrawberry

No we need manned placements the Rio Grande is a tourist spot and a lot of rafting goes on.

I prefer a fence patrolled by M1A1 and aircraft.


9 posted on 01/24/2006 1:25:31 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Man50D

General Pershing : white courtesty phone please.


10 posted on 01/24/2006 1:27:19 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Governments want to copy all the data on you in existence, but will prosecute you for an mp3 copied.)
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To: Man50D

Build the wall.


11 posted on 01/24/2006 1:27:55 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Man50D
Border Patrol agents called for backup and Texas Highway patrol officers arrived shortly afterward.

Those Highway Patrol officers better come equipped with anti-tank weapons and a couple of mini-guns. Otherwise we are outgunned. Best to put the National Guard on the border.

12 posted on 01/24/2006 1:28:24 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the stormtroopers of socialism)
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To: Man50D

I shouldn't be, but I am shocked by the degree of corruption down there.


13 posted on 01/24/2006 1:28:46 PM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: Man50D
Our government doesn't seem to understand the Mexican component of this problem, is playing for keeps.


14 posted on 01/24/2006 1:29:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: b4its2late

The Mexican soldiers have .50 cals. They're the ones with options until we militarize the border.


15 posted on 01/24/2006 1:29:32 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Man50D

send in a pair of A-10's.

On my command, unleash hell.


16 posted on 01/24/2006 1:31:01 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Man50D
That close to El Paso? Time to bring back Lone Wolf McQuade!


17 posted on 01/24/2006 1:31:40 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: Little Ray

And carrying those close to our border, or across it, will make that a reality. Therefore, they must think of their options.


18 posted on 01/24/2006 1:32:37 PM PST by b4its2late (Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.)
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To: Man50D

Maybe we should start broadcasting on mexican tv highlights of bomb drops from the Iraq war...

Of course, why would they respect us or our laws, it's not like we will actually do anything about it...


19 posted on 01/24/2006 1:33:44 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Here we go Steelers, here we go!!! One for the thumb!!!)
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To: Night Hides Not


HA! He single handidly stopped an invasion of the USA! Chuck Norris, we breathe...cuz he allows it.


21 posted on 01/24/2006 1:35:40 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Little Ray

If the democrats seized this issue (secure the border, kick out illegals, jail employers who hire illegals, extradite killers from Mexico, etc), they'd win in a landslide. But they're too stupid.


22 posted on 01/24/2006 1:36:43 PM PST by CAWats
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To: whipley-snidelash


Most Texans are better armed then the Border Patrol.


23 posted on 01/24/2006 1:37:03 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: citizen

How many will have to die before Bush does anything about an armed invasion?

Let's all sing together "Mister, we could use a man like James K. Polk again!"


25 posted on 01/24/2006 1:37:40 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Man50D; NormsRevenge; kellynla; Brad's Gramma; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; A CA Guy; ...

Good Grief!


26 posted on 01/24/2006 1:39:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

remember the alamo!!


27 posted on 01/24/2006 1:39:55 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Man50D

the US/Mexico border would be a great place for Army/National Guard training! they could work on marksmanship.


29 posted on 01/24/2006 1:40:27 PM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: CAWats
If the democrats seized this issue (secure the border, kick out illegals, jail employers who hire illegals, extradite killers from Mexico, etc), they'd win in a landslide. But they're too stupid.

They're not stupid. They want it to happen. They are socialists/communists. One thing they have in common with the terrorists is both groups seek to destroy the U.S. The former prefers it be done through politically and the latter with violence.
30 posted on 01/24/2006 1:41:25 PM PST by Man50D
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To: CAWats

Some folks think that BOTH parties are waiting for the "North American Community" or some such, after which our votes will no longer matter.


31 posted on 01/24/2006 1:41:45 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: b4its2late
Time for boots on the ground...

with real bullets

32 posted on 01/24/2006 1:43:24 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Man50D
Latest News
Armed standoff along U.S. border
Mexican soldiers and civilian smugglers had an armed standoff with nearly 30 U.S. law enforcement officials on the Rio Grande in Texas on Monday afternoon, according to Texas police and the FBI.
MSNBC Video Interview
Reporter Sara A. Carter MSNBC interview on Border incursion
Related Articles:
Homeland chief plays down Mexican incursion reports
Mexican troops aiding smugglers, says report
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Report: MS-13 gang hired to murder Border Patrol
Special Section Online: Beyond Borders
Blog Site: Beyond Borders Blog   [...MORE]

33 posted on 01/24/2006 1:44:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: whipley-snidelash

You'ld be surprised...remember the Branch Davidians had an armory...so too do a lot of other Texans.

Lots of FFL owners out in Texas, personally, I know of several M2 .50 cals, and Browning .30 cals, in civilian hands.

Lots of MacMillian .50 cal sniper rifles in civilian hands out here as well.

All in law abiding, US loving, legal, civilian ownership too. Gotta love the 2nd Amendment.


34 posted on 01/24/2006 1:45:13 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Man50D

So then, do the Mexicans have more Troops on the border than we do?

Bush's fault?


35 posted on 01/24/2006 1:45:18 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

"Seemed like an armed bunch of Texans threw the Mexican Army a beating the last time they crossed into Texas...we might just see a sequel to that."

Oh please, as the article stated, this kind of crap has been going on for years. What's Bush's response? Amnesty.


36 posted on 01/24/2006 1:45:59 PM PST by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: Centurion2000
General Pershing : white courtesty phone please - Texas Rangers are closer; a couple like those boys in Lonesome Dove would be fine.
37 posted on 01/24/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: Man50D
The FAA just posted a Temporary Flight Restriction(TFR) along the border of between Mexico and Arizon and New Mexico.

The stated reason is so the "surveillance" UAV's will not interfere with general aviation in the area.

I think UAV=Predator

38 posted on 01/24/2006 1:47:39 PM PST by sonofagun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BTTT to find later. Thanks for the links, Ernest.


40 posted on 01/24/2006 1:48:36 PM PST by Brad's Gramma
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To: Man50D
Texas border standoff with Mexican military

Um....this is surely a joke, right?

41 posted on 01/24/2006 1:49:52 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: citizen

When it comes to securing our borders, we'd be as well off trusting the French < cough >!


42 posted on 01/24/2006 1:50:06 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Dr. Marten


It's been going on for years, but how much visibility has been given to it? I am not going to apologize for Bush, though I love our current POTUS, this is a real issue for him. He needs to address it or an otherwise astonishing presidency will be tainted.

IMHO, perhaps wishful thinking, the DHS along with other alphabet government orgs. assigned to dealing with border issues is building a case for some evasive border policy.


43 posted on 01/24/2006 1:50:24 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Man50D

One reason Feds are dragging their feet.

http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=829


44 posted on 01/24/2006 1:51:13 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Man50D

Sounds like we really do need to give our border patrol access to quick on call airstrike capabilities.


45 posted on 01/24/2006 1:52:05 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
… with unmanned automatic MG turrets that shoot and kill anything bigger than a Taco Bell chihuahua …

Even PETA would approve that plan.
46 posted on 01/24/2006 1:53:20 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: TheBigB

Chuck bump


47 posted on 01/24/2006 1:54:23 PM PST by stainlessbanner (^W^)
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To: One Proud Dad

Perhaps we could get individuals to put up wall to wall billboards across the border and have paintings made of the US Army, Air Force, etc in 3D...might atleast get them to stop and wonder...


48 posted on 01/24/2006 1:54:54 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Ashamed Canadian


Hey you can change your screen name now!

Congrats on electing Harper!


49 posted on 01/24/2006 1:55:07 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: whipley-snidelash
How many Texans have 50 cal. machine guns?

I’ve met two. One even has an operational minigun.
50 posted on 01/24/2006 1:55:36 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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