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Crime Problem At FEMA Paid Motel
KPLC-TV [Lake Charles, LA] ^ | January 23, 2006 | Theresa Schmidt

Posted on 01/24/2006 9:04:11 PM PST by caryatid

It's at least the 26th time so far this year, that Lake Charles Police respond to a call at Lakeview Motel where FEMA pays to house people displaced from the hurricanes; people like Stacy Arceneaux and her mother Charlotte Broussard. The frightened women who live here have this notice on the door: "Identify yourself, do not disturb, gun in room."

Arceneaux says, "I will shoot you if I do not know who you are, period. If you look at my family wrong, I will shoot you."

"I'm expecting a bullet to come right through the walls. There's a bullet right here through this window. They tape it up. There have been drug deals out in the front, knocking on our doors and our walls all night long, cussin' us out, threaten our lives. If you all find us dead, you know who did it," said Broussard.

Stacy's daughter Ashley & her small son come here too, to visit and bring good and supplies. But after several weeks the women are beside themselves. "They're going to kill us," says Broussard. "When I come outside it's, 'I'm gonna kill you *itch and shoot you. I walked to management office a while ago and that's how the police department wound up here and made another bust, right next door to us," says Ashley.

"This is what I run around with in my room (shows .45 caliber pistol) and I've got a .17 caliber sitting up there. That's what we're living with. When my child comes to visit me I've got to walk outside and meet here with a .17 gun," explains Stacy. "What's wrong with this picture? There's a problem with this. (shows .17 caliber pistol.) This is what I have to greet my child outside with so she don't get messed with by crackheads. I got a grandbaby. I can't even see my family. No, I'm not living this way. I can't take anymore. I'm worried about my mother. I can't go to work, I can't get a job. I can't do anything. I can't leave her in this. I can't leave my mama in this mess."

"There's a condom laying out, a used condom laying outside my door that's from next door because they're trading sex off for drugs. And they're screaming obscenities in the parking lot on how, 'if you do this to me for a rock," says Stacy.

"I was a taxpayer, paid taxes and worked in this parish, Calcasieu parish, for 40 something years. I want to know what's going to be done. We need a safe place to live," says Broussard.

Stacy says, "I need a decent room for me and my mother to stay that feels safe. That's what I need right now."

Lakeview owner Jay Patel admits they have a problem with crime and have hired security. He says they are working hard to get rid of trouble makers and make it a safe place to stay.

A spokesman for FEMA says applicants can switch hotels as long as they call and get an authorization code. Lake Charles Police say they met with FEMA concerning conditions at Lakeview. We'll have more on this story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; criminalevacuees; femahotels; hurricanekatrina; hurricanerita; katrina; la; lakecharles; lcla; louisiana; neworleans; nola; rita; rkba
There is no way to tell if the "evacuees" causing the trouble are from the Lake Charles area [Hurricane Rita], or if they are from New Orleans [Hurricane Katrina]; but, the story seems to be the same wherever they go ... crime, drugs, prostitution, sex for drugs and other anti-social behaviour.
1 posted on 01/24/2006 9:04:14 PM PST by caryatid
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To: caryatid

Easy. Give 'em all more FEMA debit cards.

Problem solved.


2 posted on 01/24/2006 9:06:54 PM PST by jra
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3 posted on 01/24/2006 9:07:06 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: All
Let's not delude ourselves.

Many of the evacuees have been on the dole for generations; and the crime that follows then is endemic to their environment and lifestyle.

The ineptness of FEMA has little to do with either the cause or effects of this horrific social/cultural malady.

Look back to the Great Society -- and the pandering to these
self-perpetuating social/economic basket cases to flag the villain here.

These individuals would stay in these motel hovels for decades, given the opportunity to feed at the trough.
4 posted on 01/24/2006 9:21:02 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: caryatid

Bingo.


5 posted on 01/24/2006 9:23:11 PM PST by hershey
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To: caryatid

.17 cal? Isn't that a pellet gun? That isn't going to do her much good.


6 posted on 01/24/2006 9:25:20 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

I'll correct myself. Several folks do make a .17 Cal.

I still wouldn't want to stake my life on one.


7 posted on 01/24/2006 9:28:24 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

What do you expect? The majority of the "refugees" are criminals.. DUH, Yeah I said it.


8 posted on 01/24/2006 9:29:00 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: caryatid

.17 is not stopping power. Stick with the .45


9 posted on 01/24/2006 9:29:03 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: caryatid
the story seems to be the same wherever they go ... crime, drugs, prostitution, sex for drugs and other anti-social behaviour.

Not that Houston didn't have any problems before but it is now rampant as evidenced by this in today's news......... "The attack began around 4:30pm on January 19. Police say they picked up the girl as she was walking to her grandmother's house near Wheeler and Dowling in southeast Houston. They forced her into a car at gunpoint and drove her to an unknown location. The suspects repeatedly sexually assaulted her. The teen was released in the area of Catalina and Gulf Meadows on January 20. The suspects are described as black males in their late 20s who spoke with Louisiana accents. The vehicle was a 1993-1995 dark green Ford Taurus with dark tint on the rear windows.

Police say if you recognize these men you're asked to call Crime Stoppers at 713-222-TIPS or HPD Juvenile Sex Crimes at 713-731-5498.

10 posted on 01/24/2006 9:32:42 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: dk/coro

Pegged that one just right.

These people are just sitting on their fat, food stamp bloated behinds continuing to "let" the producers and taxpayers of the nation provide them with free housing months after people in places hit much harder by Katrina than 'Nawlins have been busy rebuilding their lives.

C'mon there Hillary. These are folks from YOUR plantation.


11 posted on 01/24/2006 9:38:07 PM PST by 308MBR (After over 20 years of GOP only, I'm voting a split ticket in 'O6 and hoping for gridlock.)
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To: PAR35
I'll correct myself. Several folks do make a .17 Cal.
I still wouldn't want to stake my life on one.
Wow, there are actually two pistol rounds ( .17 HMR and .17 Aguila) in this caliber. Takes a strange mind to think of necking down a 22 rimfire round. Good news is that in some rifles in .17 Aguila can use standard hicap 10/22 magazines.
12 posted on 01/24/2006 10:09:33 PM PST by Nonesuch (All the disadvantages of 22LR at ten times the price.)
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To: Stacy
Get a job.

13 posted on 01/24/2006 10:49:39 PM PST by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. have a nice day.)
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To: PAR35
I'll correct myself. Several folks do make a .17 Cal.

I am aware of .177 rifle cartridges, but I'm unaware of any pistols chambered for such rounds. Are there any "real" pistols chambered for a .177 cartridge?

14 posted on 01/24/2006 11:12:04 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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15 posted on 01/24/2006 11:16:23 PM PST by wardaddy (Alito is Clapton)
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To: supercat
The .17 HMR is a pretty serious varmint and plinking round. It moves 17 grain hollow point at about 2500 fps or so. It's not much good beyond about 50 yards, but I sure wouldn't want to get hit with one.

More info can be found on our old friend Varmint Als website.

Here's a pic also from Varmint Als site:

Here's another one for comparison to a .22 LR and a couple of wildcat .22 cals.

L

16 posted on 01/24/2006 11:22:13 PM PST by Lurker (Liberal policies break hearts and destroy lives.)
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To: 308MBR
These people are just sitting on their fat, food stamp bloated behinds continuing to "let" the producers and taxpayers of the nation provide them with free housing months after people in places hit much harder by Katrina than 'Nawlins have been busy rebuilding their lives.

I simply cannot imagine living in this situation. After one day of being in fear of my life, I'd be gone. I don't know what I'd do, or where I would go, but I'd darn well figure it out.

It surprises me that so many people lack any kind of...I don't know if it's survival instinct, or a type of ambition maybe?

17 posted on 01/24/2006 11:23:55 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Lurker

How much of the powder in one of those cartridges will burn before the bullet exits the barrel on something like that mini-revolver? I appreciate that the HMR is a decent rifle round, but would think a .22LR or even .22 short would be more effective in a mini-revolver of a given overall length (the shorter rounds could have longer barrels). I guess I shouldn't be surprised that someone (NAA?) makes a mini-revolver in .177 but I don't see any reason to buy or own such a weapon.


18 posted on 01/24/2006 11:34:38 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: caryatid
Quick, get New Orleans opened so these people can go home where they belong!
19 posted on 01/24/2006 11:57:08 PM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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20 posted on 01/25/2006 12:07:57 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: supercat
Believe it or not there are some auto-loaders on the market. Excel Arms makes one. Smith and Wesson makes a revolver for that chambers this cartridge.

I don't 'feel the need' to own a pistol in this caliber, but I seriously considered buying the .22 I bought for my son Christmas present in .17 cal.

Ammo cost and nostalgia are what finally decided it for me. So, Lurker Jr. got himself a nice Youth Model Henry .22 lever action rifle last year.

Granted, I sure wouldn't pick this round as something I'd use for self defense in this ladys situation, but hey...she's got a .45, too.

Anyway, kudos to this woman for having the fortitude to stand up to the scum menacing her.

Haven't seen you around for a while. It's nice to talk with you again.

L

21 posted on 01/25/2006 12:31:16 AM PST by Lurker (Liberal policies break hearts and destroy lives.)
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To: Dianna

It surprises me that so many people lack any kind of...I don't know if it's survival instinct, or a type of ambition maybe?


---I agree and it is sickening.


22 posted on 01/25/2006 1:24:06 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: SR 50
Quick, get New Orleans opened so these people can go home where they belong!

They are from the Lake Charles area, the same place they are now.

I was a taxpayer, paid taxes and worked in this parish, Calcasieu parish, for 40 something years.

Lakeview owner Jay Patel....

It seems that at least half of these kinds of motels are owned by Indians who give their last names as Patel. In the Dallas area it makes it hard to keep up with who is and who isn't when trying to enforce things.

23 posted on 01/25/2006 1:27:51 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: dk/coro

Exactly. Why doesn't she just pack up, leave, find a church willing to help her, and GET A JOB. Then she could find a decent place to live and not worry like this. Seems to me that there were many offers of jobs and housing for people to take advantage of and many of those offers were not accepted. She doesn't have to stay! She's got no one to blame but herself. I know legal immigrants who could hardly speak English who are on their own now after a couple years.


24 posted on 01/25/2006 5:09:19 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: caryatid

"There is no way to tell if the "evacuees" causing the trouble are from the Lake Charles area [Hurricane Rita], or if they are from New Orleans [Hurricane Katrina]; but, the story seems to be the same wherever they go ... crime, drugs, prostitution, sex for drugs and other anti-social behaviour."






They didn't say or show the perps. We do still have some NOLA evacuees here though. There is a video on the kplc website. The lady said she is afraid to leave her elderly mother alone and that is why she hasn't gone back to work. Part of the problem is lack of available housing. There is none.

Here's an update of the story:

Lakeview Update: Repeat Offenders Frustrate Police

January 24, 2006
Reported By: Theresa Schmidt

Lakeview Inn is well know to Lake Charles Police who have responded to at least 26 calls for assistance already this year. FEMA's paying for almost all rooms here to house displaced hurricane victims, including Stacy Arceneaux and her mother. She says they're so afraid of crime they keep guns for protection. "This is what I have to greet my child outside with (shows .45 caliber pistol) so she don't get messed with by crackheads," says Arceneaux.

The latest arrests at Lakeview were two repeat offenders in the room next door to Arceneaux. Angela Jordan and Michael Thomas both have lengthy criminal histories. Which Sergeant Mark Kraus says is part of the problem: "Unfortunately, we in law enforcement have to revisit, visit and revisit again the same people time and time again."

Jordan is 35 years old and has been arrested 38 times for a variety of crimes including prostitution, armed robbery and drug charges. Thomas has been arrested 13 times. Kraus says the system is broken. "Thirty-eight breaks that this lady has gotten. At some point the system needs to get it. She's not going to reform herself. She's not going to get on her feet or earn her keep in this community and she's going to continue to be a plague to people that you interviewed yesterday and it's just not fair not just to those people, but everywhere this particular person goes," says Sgt. Kraus.

Police say they have offered to bring FEMA through Lakeview to get a first hand look at the situation and so FEMA can verify that all here are entitled to emergency housing. "What we've agreed to do with FEMA is walk in these rooms with them as uniformed police officers, and send them some kind of security so we could find out, or better yet, FEMA could find out, who belongs there legally, who has a legitimate need for government assistance and who doesn't," says Kraus.

However a spokesman for FEMA says they don't do investigations and that any such offer would be turned over to the Inspector General's Office. Residents here also complain of other living conditions. "There is a rat that lives under my mother's bed. It comes out at night. I see him more at night, I don't see him during the day. He's under there and you can hear him scurrying," explains Arceneaux. "I have no heater in this room. I have no fire system in this room."

FEMA officials say due to the emergency nature of housing being provided there are no standards that must be met by hotels that house FEMA applicants. A spokesman says such applicants should take responsibility for their own situation and find a better place to stay.

Lakeview owner Jay Patel says the residents did not notify the management of a rodent problem. He says they are doing all they can to provide safe and acceptable housing. Patel has also hired security to help fight the crime problem.


25 posted on 01/25/2006 5:10:45 AM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: caryatid

My college age daughter and I were watching something on TV the other day about the FEMA abuses. I told her to study hard and get a good job because she will be paying for these losers and their descendents when she is 80 years old. At least they'll get to vote in Chocolate City no matter where they're sucking off the taxpayers.


26 posted on 01/25/2006 5:15:42 AM PST by RushLake (The Democratic party--Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.)
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To: CajunConservative
SIGH!

Thank you, CajunConservative, for posting more information here. I have no solution to the chronic criminality described. I can only wonder why these folks are still at large in the world. We do not need more laws on the books ... we do need to enforce the ones that are already there.

As to rodent problems, they are not limited to FEMA sponsored housing. I myself had a persistent mouse visit me last Spring. In an effort to deal humanely with my unwanted guest, I attempted to have a "dialogue" with the mouse and to explain to her that she really must stop terrifying my poor cat. That failed; so, I did everything in my power to find where he/she was coming in. She outsmarted me every time. Finally, as a last resort, I stopped at the nearby hardware store and, at minimal cost, purchased a readily available product [a small cardboard box with poisoned grain in it]. After I carefully placed the bait in an area unaccessible by my overweight kitty, I waited patiently. I never saw or heard my "guest" again but, after a few days found that the box of poisoned grain was empty.

There can be no doubt that some of the folks in FEMA sponsored hotels really have not, yet, been able to find other accomodations. I really do realize that housing is scarce to non-existent in some areas.

I do believe, however, that many of the folks who are still in FEMA sponsored hotels [five months after the hurricanes hit] are simply avoiding self-responsibility ... just as they avoided self-responsibility for years before the hurricanes struck. It would appear that someone who lacks gumption enough to get rid of a rat ... well, what can I say? Has the rat outsmarted them? The rat may have sought refuge from the hurricane, too. We can poison the rat. We will have to find a more humane solution for the other unwanted guests.

I suspect, when all is said and done, that we simply have a group of self-responsibility averse, chronic help-rejecting complainers. Perhaps FEMA can go into the hotel/motel business and thereby relieve the benighted owners of those establishments of all responsibility for, and headaches caused by, FEMA's chosen tenants.

SIGH!

27 posted on 01/25/2006 8:51:26 AM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid
Here in Houston Katrina Evacuees are killing each left and right. This AM local news had info on N.O.'s evacuee killed another N.O.'s evacuee. They were living in an apart. complex. Also, N.O.'s gangs are now in Houston.

HPD seem to be taking care of the problems pretty well...don't mess with Texas!

28 posted on 01/25/2006 9:01:05 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: shield
Here in Houston Katrina Evacuees are killing each left and right.

Thank you, shield. I am not certain that this is the more humane solution I was seeking ... but, I guess we can just let nature take its course ... and let God sort things out in the end.       LOL

29 posted on 01/25/2006 9:08:45 AM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid
Our crime rates are up...it's been said it's due to those evacuees. Oh don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are lots of really good folks here from N.O.'s. And most have never lived so well.

Yes, things get worked out one way or another.

30 posted on 01/25/2006 9:16:13 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: shield
Yes, it has been widely reported that Houston's crime rates have soared in direct proportion to the influx of Katrina evacuees.

That said, I know for a fact that there are many good folks from New Orleans who have had no choice but to relocate to Houston and other places.

I myself have been in communication with one extended family of N.O. evacuees. They have been very busy settling into what they describe as their "homes away from home" ... and are trying to "get on with their lives". These were good folks before the Hurricane struck ... and they are still good folks today. They are not part of the problem.

Their husband/father's remains have finally, after all this time, been identified ... they were finally able in mid-January to have a funeral Mass for their loved one. The anxiety of not knowing what happened to their loved one is finally over. They now, for the first time, are able to reach a point of accomodation with their grief and begin a new stage in their recovery.

All who read these threads need to remember that, as sarcastic as we may tend to be here on FRee Republic, these are real tragedies playing out in the lives of many good people. The ones we hear about [and scorn] are not representative of the many good people who are self-sufficient and decent folks who are trying to put their lives back together as quickly as they can. They need our compassion.

31 posted on 01/25/2006 9:27:30 AM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid
They need our compassion

I agree.

32 posted on 01/25/2006 9:32:29 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: shield

Compassion in the form of Tough Love.


33 posted on 01/25/2006 11:16:03 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Clarification - Tough Love for the miscreants.


34 posted on 01/25/2006 11:16:47 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: SR 50
New Orleans is open, and I don't particularly want them here either. The best thing would be for these fools to get arrested and tossed in jail for the rest of their lives wherever they are. Hopefully, the courts and juries are less lenient in places that aren't New Orleans.

I understand, for example, that murdering someone in Texas is a bad idea.

35 posted on 01/25/2006 11:25:03 AM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: little jeremiah; shield
little jeremiah, if you will follow the posts back to their origin ... and read them comprehensively ... you will understand that the exchange between shield and me was about people who are NOT of the dependent class, who are NOT living in FEMA shelters, who ARE quietly putting their own lives back together ... without fanfare and without help .... Only then might you possibly be able to comprehend that there is no tough love needed for the folks about which we spoke. Only compassion.
36 posted on 01/25/2006 1:00:43 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: Gordongekko909
Hopefully, the courts and juries are less lenient in places that aren't New Orleans.

You are so right. It has been reported that New Orleans is going to have a quota ... an actual number of prisoners that they will accommodate ... the rest ... felons all ... they plan to turn loose ... to roam the streets ... and prey upon the rest of us.

37 posted on 01/25/2006 1:03:43 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid

Thanks - note to self, read whole thread before adding my .02.


38 posted on 01/25/2006 1:42:21 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: caryatid

Source? I will personally make this into a major election issue, if need be. This is insane.


39 posted on 01/25/2006 2:52:02 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: little jeremiah
Clarification - Tough Love for the miscreants.

Well said, little jerimiah!   Thank you.

40 posted on 01/25/2006 9:06:37 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: supercat

TRACKER MODEL 17 .17HMR REVOLVER

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al\
41 posted on 04/02/2007 10:06:20 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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