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51% SAY NO TO PREZ HILL
NY Post ^ | Jan 25, 2006 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 01/25/2006 2:13:11 AM PST by Pharmboy

January 25, 2006 -- WASHINGTON — Most American voters now say there's no way they'd vote for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton if she runs for president in 2008 — while just 16 percent are firmly in her camp, a stunning new poll shows. The Gallup/CNN poll found that 51 percent say they definitely won't vote for Clinton (D-N.Y.) in 2008, another 32 percent might consider it, and only 16 percent vow to back her.

That means committed anti-Hillary voters outnumber pro-Hillary voters by 3-1.

Men are especially anti-Clinton — 60 percent say there's no way they'd back her for commander-in-chief, and that rises to 62 percent among men 50 and over.

Among women, 22 percent say they'd definitely vote for Clinton, but just 11 percent of men agree. Her support is also lower among whites — 14 percent are committed supporters, compared with 28 percent of nonwhites.

Even among self-proclaimed liberals, just 33 percent say they'd definitely vote for her.

The poll suggests she can forget about crossover votes — 90 percent of Republicans and 75 percent of conservatives say there's no way they'd back her.

Clinton's spokesman, Philippe Reines, brushed off all questions about 2008 polls, good and bad, saying Clinton "remains focused on being the best senator she can for New York."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2008; herheinous; hillary; presidency
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I sure hope so...
1 posted on 01/25/2006 2:13:12 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

Me, too!


2 posted on 01/25/2006 2:15:32 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Pharmboy
Is that all? I mean, didn't the sinkmaster win an election with 43% of the popular vote? Jeez. Toss in the McCainiac factor once he gets drummed out of the primaries and runs as an independent and what will happen?

Please, no one should underestimate the ice queen.

3 posted on 01/25/2006 2:15:49 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Pharmboy

chinagate


4 posted on 01/25/2006 2:16:29 AM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Pharmboy

I think if this story had been written 10 years ago, it would still be accurate.


5 posted on 01/25/2006 2:16:51 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Pharmboy

6 posted on 01/25/2006 2:18:35 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-Rush Limbaugh.)
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To: Caipirabob

McCain will be rendered a nonfactor beyond the primaries. He has to be nominated at the convention in order to be any "threat".


7 posted on 01/25/2006 2:19:12 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Mia T

A special Her Heinous ping for you...


8 posted on 01/25/2006 2:23:18 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
McCain will be rendered a nonfactor beyond the primaries. He has to be nominated at the convention in order to be any "threat".

I sure hope so. It's amazing how the LSM is trying to push him and his RINO pal Rudy Guiliani as potential Republican candidates. They would shatter the party, but then they all know that.

9 posted on 01/25/2006 2:25:23 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Pharmboy

I support HRC running for president in 2008...

...but only because I known she'd be crushed by whomever we put out there.


10 posted on 01/25/2006 2:25:52 AM PST by AlaninSA (It's one nation under God -- brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: Caipirabob
I agree with you.

Excuse me for being a "half empty" kind of guy, but who were the 10% of Republicans and 25% of conservatives who said they might support She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?
11 posted on 01/25/2006 2:28:46 AM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

I think the pudgy lady in the purple cap is Barbara Mikulski.


12 posted on 01/25/2006 2:29:14 AM PST by giotto
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To: Caipirabob

Screw the media. The media by now has the credibility of a crooked lawyer and shady politician, in the eyes of the average voter.


13 posted on 01/25/2006 2:32:30 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Pharmboy

14 posted on 01/25/2006 2:40:03 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Is she wearing THE pants suit?


15 posted on 01/25/2006 2:43:04 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy
bump

WHY HILLARY MUST NOT WIN. WHY HILLARY CANNOT WIN.


THE ABSURDITY OF A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HILLARY



December 7, 1941+64

AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO

RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton



Dear Concerned Americans,

Hillary Clinton's revisionist tome notwithstanding, 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. It is in that light that I make this not-so-modest proposal on this day, exactly 64 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.

We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?

In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?

Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, Hillary Clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.

What we decide to do about Missus Clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.

COMPLETE LETTER

December 7, 1941+64
Mia T
AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton




16 posted on 01/25/2006 2:43:50 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Pharmboy

However, on a positive note - she might make a good "human footstool" for Condolezza Rice(?)


17 posted on 01/25/2006 2:44:47 AM PST by The Duke
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To: wolfpat
who were the 10% of Republicans and 25% of conservatives who said they might support She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?

democrats lying about being Republicans and conservatives

18 posted on 01/25/2006 2:46:11 AM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: Pharmboy

As I've said again and again, Hitlery, if she ever did get the nomination, would generate the largest negative turnout ever in an election. Why some scared rabbits here live in mortal fear of her is beyond me.


19 posted on 01/25/2006 2:52:45 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: NYpeanut
democrats lying about being Republicans and conservatives

Ditto. They always start out with phony lines like "I've been a lifelong Republican, having voted for Goldwater blah, blah, blah, but now I'm voting for Hillary Clinton." Ahh yup, we're fooled.

20 posted on 01/25/2006 2:55:28 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Caipirabob
"Toss in the McCainiac factor once he gets drummed out of the primaries and runs as an independent and what will happen?"


Like most "nightmares" we dream about, they do no come true.

McCain had his shot, and though Americans may have short memories, they will not forget his rancor, piss poor bills, aligning the 'Gang of 14' filibuster deal, and his being a general thorn in the side of GWB & Co..


Should McCain choose to run as an independent, he would (IMHO) have little to no effect the presidential election.





21 posted on 01/25/2006 2:55:35 AM PST by G.Mason (Iwo Jima ... 6,825 American's died in the 36 days of that battle. We did not quit John Murtha!)
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To: Pharmboy

It's always good to hear,(and easier to believe), about polls that say what we want to hear.


22 posted on 01/25/2006 2:56:24 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Pharmboy

I'd crawl through broken glass.......


23 posted on 01/25/2006 2:57:15 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: Caipirabob

I don't think McCain would do that to his country.
There is a greater chance, in my view, that the radical left will field an anti-war candidate.

That said, if the GOP candidate is pro-choice, the Dems will try to make abortion the de facto Ross Perot, i.e., try to make the Right sit out the election, (and thereby place a de facto vote for missus clinton or whichever D is running).... But this will work only if the Right complies.


24 posted on 01/25/2006 2:58:29 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Pharmboy

"I am Sick and Tired! of people saying that if you criticize the Republicans, you are not patriotic! Sick and Tired of it!

"And you people know wha I'm talkin 'bout!"

25 posted on 01/25/2006 3:08:20 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Pharmboy

I have saying since 2000 that if Hill runs she'll be lucky to win the primary, let alone the general. The People are tired of the Clinton legacy and the last thing they want is to see all the slime dredged out into the public street again. Except in New England.


26 posted on 01/25/2006 3:10:53 AM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: Pharmboy

Someone on e-mailed Fox & Freinds that they would support Hitlery if John Kerry was the Republican candidate.


27 posted on 01/25/2006 3:24:41 AM PST by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win.)
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To: Caipirabob

"Please, no one should underestimate the ice queen."

I can't agree enough. I had hoped that the GOP would have identified a "strong" player to take her on in NY.

On one hand it would make her fight and spend to keep the Senate plus pledge to stay the term. Which is a plus and she might lose and thus be politically dead.

On the other hand, it might be a chance for her and the MSM to get all the negative stuff that might come up in the 08 race out of the way. This is a big negative as if there is ever a public discussion of all her "baggage" outside of a liberal stronghold like NY then it will really hurt her.


28 posted on 01/25/2006 3:26:34 AM PST by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport). . . Don't leave home without it!)
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To: Pharmboy
I hope she gets the Demonicratic nomination so she can finally see how well she's "liked" by real Americans.
29 posted on 01/25/2006 3:32:03 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Note to NYT: Those who spin, cannot win...(think Johnny Cochran))
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To: Pharmboy

I would bet that 90% would like to see this wretch convicted and jailed.


30 posted on 01/25/2006 3:39:29 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Pharmboy

Mrs. Clinton's our president the instant Oprah gives the thumbs-up :<


31 posted on 01/25/2006 3:41:08 AM PST by IronManBike (Lodestar in the LoneStar)
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To: Caipirabob
I respectfully disagree. She may be clever but she comes with a ton of baggage. I believe that the major media loves ratings even more than promoting an agenda so when she comes under the spotlight it's all going to be brought out...especially if they have a media darling "centrist" on the right like McCain.

I may be deluding myself a little, but I don't think that the American electorate cares about things like race or gender anymore where the presidency is concerned. I think the right woman could get elected to the White house, but Hillary is NOT that woman.

If Rice could put together the political infrastructure she'd have a real shot, but absent her, no woman is going to get elected next term.

32 posted on 01/25/2006 3:44:12 AM PST by tcostell
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I bet the numbers are really far worse for Hillie. If that's the poll I'm thinking of, they polled what they referred to as adults, not likely or even registered voters.
33 posted on 01/25/2006 3:44:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: yer gonna put yer eye out
"I hope she gets the Demonicratic nomination so she can finally see how well she's "liked" by real Americans."

Sure, real people won't vote for her, but what about all the dead people, double voters and the like?

34 posted on 01/25/2006 3:53:46 AM PST by MaggieCarta (Vote Early, and Vote Often, the advice openly displayed on election banners--1858)
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To: Pharmboy
Wonder if she broke things, slammed stuff against the wall like she did with 'BillyBoy' was in charge when she saw this poll.
35 posted on 01/25/2006 3:57:12 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Pharmboy
SHE'S SELF DESTRUCTING TOO SOON!

Tell Karl Rove to fire up the Mass Mind Control Machine. Hillary! was supposed to suck all the oxygen out of the 2008 Democrat Primary before spectacularly self destructing in the run-up to the Democrat National Convention.

Don't these guys even have a playbook!

SAVE Hillary!. She hasn't finished destroying the Democrat Party yet!

36 posted on 01/25/2006 3:57:35 AM PST by gridlock (It's not really a circus until Teddy Kennedy steps out of the clown car...)
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To: Pharmboy

I guess the TV show touting Hillary's future presidency was a failure. Time to pull the plug on "Commander in Chief".


37 posted on 01/25/2006 4:00:22 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Pharmboy
>>The poll suggests she can forget about crossover votes — 90 percent of Republicans and 75 percent of conservatives say there's no way they'd back her. <<

This statement more than "suggests" that this poll is donkey doo.

Muleteam1

38 posted on 01/25/2006 4:07:47 AM PST by Muleteam1 (Knowing the past is like a tracer bullet. It reveals the path to the future.)
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To: Caipirabob
I know a lot of Freepers don't like to hear this, but Jeb Bush is the absolute best candidate for President.If his last name wasn't Bush there would be no question and I find it hard to believe that "we're not a monarchy" theme would work while he's running against the Queen of Narnia.

Jeb Bush coupled with a solid younger but accomplished conservative (maybe an up and coming Lynn Swann, I know he has to win the governors race first) would be a dominating force. We also must be sure we continue the war and tax policies of George and McCain is too buddy buddy with the liberal Senators and Rudy is too liberal in the areas he needs to be conservative. The next President must not think raising taxes is ok,McCain and Rudy seem like tax raisers for sure.

39 posted on 01/25/2006 4:11:52 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: SkyPilot
bump!


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COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006

40 posted on 01/25/2006 4:12:12 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: PetroniusMaximus

They look like a couple of Eco-terrorist!


41 posted on 01/25/2006 5:02:25 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Pharmboy

This is an absolutely amazing jump. In Dec. her "would never vote for her number" was about 41! What's happening here is that as the idea of her possibly becoming the president actually comes closer, people are getting focused on it and saying no!
The best thing for us would be for the beast to get the rat nomination. That way we could pull a name out of the phone book on the top line and work on the down ballot races. This is what we should have done in 1972 and again in 1984.


42 posted on 01/25/2006 5:06:52 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

So sad. They were kinda cute in a 70's sort of way when they were young.


43 posted on 01/25/2006 5:07:58 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: normy

That's an insult to Jadis--she's far better looking, and represents a seductive sort of evil.


44 posted on 01/25/2006 5:10:31 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Pharmboy
Her support is also lower among whites

Well, duh! "Plantation.....and you know what I'm talking about."
45 posted on 01/25/2006 5:11:46 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: MaggieCarta

"Sure, real people won't vote for her, but what about all the dead people, double voters and the like?"


LOL.....!
Ya I forgot about all the democratic "stealth" voters.


46 posted on 01/25/2006 5:13:13 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Note to NYT: Those who spin, cannot win...(think Johnny Cochran))
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To: wolfpat
10% of Republicans and 25% of conservatives who said they might support She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?

I thought that figure to be at least bassakwards. It implies that conservatives would back her more than rinos would.

47 posted on 01/25/2006 5:16:26 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Pharmboy
bump

SEE VIDEO: "HILLARY IS 'DOOMED'" (more 'plantation' fallout)

48 posted on 01/25/2006 5:26:13 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Kuksool; LdSentinal; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; MNJohnnie

I've never been one to like Hillary's chances at winning the Presidency [shudder], but I'm still rather pleasantly surprised by these numbers.


49 posted on 01/25/2006 5:26:47 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: The Duke

Hillary forgot that she lives in the Big House on the plantation.


50 posted on 01/25/2006 5:35:24 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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