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Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria
New York Sun ^ | January 26, 2006 | Ira Stoll

Posted on 01/26/2006 6:47:04 AM PST by Col. Bob

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqwar; sada; saddam; syria; wmd; wmds
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Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!! This comes from an article printed today on the Powerline blog. http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012944.php As I've written repeatedly to my local paper...

No WMD in Iraq?

“Bush lied and people died,” goes the liberal mantra. Since the Iraq Survey Group found no WMD, Iraq never had any WMD. Really!?!

Final reports of ISG heads David Kay and Charles Duelfer state, “ISG is unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war…There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved… In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation."

Furthermore DOD officials cite worldwide intelligence reports pointing to WMD movement into Syria. CENTCOM cites Russian Special Forces and intelligence troops worked with Saddam's intelligence service moving weapons and material to Syria, Lebanon and possibly Iran. Numerous other sources report the same general theme, with different details without contradiction. Finally, the New York Post and New York Times reported on testimony of former Iraqi scientists indicating some banned weapons went to Syria.

Until these allegations can be disproved, I wouldn’t hang my hat on, Bush lied because we found no WMD in Iraq.

1 posted on 01/26/2006 6:47:05 AM PST by Col. Bob
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To: Col. Bob
Like I always said, what filled all the mass graves? Bad Taco Bell? I think not.

Finding all the mass graves and saying there were no WMDs is like our finding the concentration camps in 46, but no zyclonD containers and saying there was no holocaust.
2 posted on 01/26/2006 6:49:26 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: Col. Bob

Yep, couple this with Stephen Hayes' report on the terror ties that are being uncovered, and also with the former head of Romanian secret police who said he KNOWS that Saddam and the Ruskies had a plan to hide the weapons, and the wheels of the liberal-scums "Bush-lied" mantra are started to come off.

Now, we'll all hold our breath for the NY Times to cover this story, right?


3 posted on 01/26/2006 6:50:14 AM PST by pissant
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To: Col. Bob

This will indeed be confirmed one day.


4 posted on 01/26/2006 6:51:23 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Col. Bob

I am not holding my breath until the NYT, Wash Post, the networks, and all their small-time copiers report this. You could hand them actual, real-time video of these WMDs and they wouldn't report it.


5 posted on 01/26/2006 6:51:26 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: Col. Bob

So, a country in which we enforced a no-fly zone for, what, a dozen years, kept electronic surveillance on, pointed our satellites at, was able to move WMD from point A to point B without our knowledge. And we have not got a clue? Ouch.


6 posted on 01/26/2006 6:52:35 AM PST by dmz
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To: sarasota

"This will indeed be confirmed one day."

Unfortunately I think the confirmation will be by their use.


7 posted on 01/26/2006 6:53:31 AM PST by moasicwolf
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To: Col. Bob

If we have this information so readily available for so long, why hasn't the CIA been looking into this. If true, such weapons would pose a vital threat to the entire region. It is time to put some excruciatingly heavy pressure on Assad and the Syrian regime -- You cough up the weapons and we let you live.


8 posted on 01/26/2006 6:54:09 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: dmz
So, a country in which we enforced a no-fly zone for, what, a dozen years, kept electronic surveillance on, pointed our satellites at, was able to move WMD from point A to point B without our knowledge. And we have not got a clue? Ouch.

From the article:

9 posted on 01/26/2006 6:55:35 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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10 posted on 01/26/2006 6:55:36 AM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: Col. Bob; Peach

Plus, satellite photos showed convoys of trucks heading for Syria--what was in those? And let's not forget that Iraq is a very big place: already they've found fleets of airplanes buried in the sand. What else is buried that we haven't found yet? More bodies, I'm sure, but there could be more WMD.


11 posted on 01/26/2006 6:56:31 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Col. Bob
So tell us something we didn't know.

Remember Bill Gertz's reports in the Washington Times that in the run-up to the war, Russian trucks were picked up by our satellite intel at Iraqi weapons plants carrying some large loads (covered) to Syria? We all thought that the loads were WMDs. This would tehnd to confirm that this is exactly what happened.

12 posted on 01/26/2006 6:57:08 AM PST by TBP
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To: dmz

Oh we had a clue.
Remember the Russian "diplomatic evacuation convoy" that got bombed "by mistake" at the onset of the war, as it headed from Baghdad to Syria? Too little too late.

It's amazing what large mass quantities of material can be moved under seal of diplomatic pouch.

And remember that enough bio/chem/toxin materiel to decimate millions of people would fit into several large tanker trucks.


13 posted on 01/26/2006 6:57:37 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I'm interested to see/hear this mid February release of a tape supposedly of Hussein and others bragging about hiding WMDs from inspectors. I'm in no way ready to declare it a smoking gun, but I am admittedly curious.


14 posted on 01/26/2006 6:58:08 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Col. Bob

Perhaps we should encourage our friends the Israelis to launch an attack on Syria while we bomb Iran. I bet that would shorten the war in Iraq and Afghanistan dramatically, save lives (on both sides), and find the WMDs.

At which point, liberals woudl simply increase teh list of people who are obviously lying.

In LibWorlkd, facts don't matter: truth is whatever serves the party and a lie is whatever doesn't.

Simple -- except when arthritis flares up.


15 posted on 01/26/2006 7:00:55 AM PST by TBP
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To: Coop

Same here Coop. My curiosity is up on this too.


16 posted on 01/26/2006 7:02:18 AM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: Dog

FYI. Methinks the truth will eventually out. Hopefully come mid to late October. Hehehehe...


17 posted on 01/26/2006 7:04:09 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Coop

I am also selling a book telling all as to where the WMD's are.......buy mine first !

< /SARCASM> ........:o)


18 posted on 01/26/2006 7:05:10 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: mnehrling
Finding all the mass graves and saying there were no WMDs is like our finding the concentration camps in 46, but no zyclonD containers and saying there was no holocaust.

How true. And how sad.

19 posted on 01/26/2006 7:05:39 AM PST by TBP
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To: dmz

The History Channel did a documentary on Saddam's WMD's and showed nighttime video of trucks moving "something" into Syria. Darned if I can remember the name of the documentary and even tried to find the story in the archives. Very powerful stuff and included his visuals of the many underground bunkers.


20 posted on 01/26/2006 7:06:25 AM PST by sarasota
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To: TBP

The problem here is that the Administration has capitulated that the prewar intelligence was wrong. If they know the WMD's are in Syria why haven't they done anything about it? They let the Dems steal the moral authority away from the war, leading to fiercer oppostion from the insurgency. Before anyone says it's a Rove "rope a dope", political strategy is way down the priority list in this case.

It doesn't make any sense.


21 posted on 01/26/2006 7:06:51 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin

Not enough evidence in the sense that we don't have the "merchandise".


22 posted on 01/26/2006 7:09:04 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Wristpin

Perhaps because knowing and proving are two entirely different beasts.


23 posted on 01/26/2006 7:09:40 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Wristpin
The problem here is that the Administration has capitulated that the prewar intelligence was wrong. If they know the WMD's are in Syria why haven't they done anything about it?

I have my own theory. The Dems are too wedded to their "No WMDs!" line of attack to ever let that go. And for the Bush Admin, one criticism of the planned invasion before it happened was that it would scatter the WMDs - which is what appears happened. And I think the Bush Admin thinks that such a revelation would cause more political damage than the limited damage the Dems have caused to date with their No WMDs attacks.

But that's just my opinion.

24 posted on 01/26/2006 7:12:43 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: Coop

It would seem to me that the threat still exists..whether in Iraq or Syria. Assad isn't exactly a nice guy.


25 posted on 01/26/2006 7:13:18 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Col. Bob

I bet this will be all over the MSM...

/sarc


26 posted on 01/26/2006 7:13:57 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: Col. Bob

I don't knwo who this guy is, but why is he not in custody? I saw him on Hannity and Not-Combs last night.


27 posted on 01/26/2006 7:14:02 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: dirtboy

I feel the same way...politics first, while the insurgency and the anti war movement grows! Very weak if that is the case.


28 posted on 01/26/2006 7:16:48 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: eureka!

>Remember the Russian "diplomatic evacuation convoy" that >got bombed "by mistake" at the onset of the war, as it >headed from Baghdad to Syria? Too little too late.

Yes, I think if it was not Syria it was evacuated by Russians, KGB has a long history of moving all kinds of crap, up to M1 tank engines by diplomatic mail..


29 posted on 01/26/2006 7:17:49 AM PST by b2stealth
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To: Sensei Ern

True...the guy is most likely a war criminal.


30 posted on 01/26/2006 7:18:48 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: aflaak

ping


31 posted on 01/26/2006 7:23:34 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (Mr. September)
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To: Wristpin
The problem here is that the Administration has capitulated that the prewar intelligence was wrong.

The Stupid Party being The Stupid Party.

32 posted on 01/26/2006 7:25:00 AM PST by TBP
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To: 3AngelaD
"I am not holding my breath until the NYT, Wash Post, the networks, and all their small-time copiers report this. You could hand them actual, real-time video of these WMDs and they wouldn't report it."

Just because the book makes these claims, doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Nonetheless, the MSM report as fact many unsubstantiated claims that appear in books. And you are correct, they are not likely to give this one any publicity; they have too much at stake in claiming that Saddam had no WMDs - it has become part of the official wisdom, and they will not allow it to be challenged until Bush is long out of office.
33 posted on 01/26/2006 7:30:52 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: dirtboy

If they wqere scattered we can thank Sen Rockefeller for that as he made a trip to the Middle East and warned them we were coming. Does this sound like treasonable actions.


34 posted on 01/26/2006 7:32:49 AM PST by snowman1
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To: Col. Bob
We looked for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction under every street lamp in Iraq...


35 posted on 01/26/2006 7:33:13 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: moasicwolf
Unfortunately I think the confirmation will be by their use

Sadly, I agree with you.

36 posted on 01/26/2006 7:35:01 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: b2stealth
"Yes, I think if it was not Syria it was evacuated by Russians, KGB has a long history of moving all kinds of crap, up to M1 tank engines by diplomatic mail.."

Now that you mention it, I do also recall mention of the KGB helping move them. Putin is a huge disappointment...

37 posted on 01/26/2006 7:35:39 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: pissant

I've got Haye's book, high time I read it.


38 posted on 01/26/2006 7:50:37 AM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: Allan

Ping.


39 posted on 01/26/2006 7:52:42 AM PST by Mitchell
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To: Col. Bob
The Bush team should be shouting this from every mountain top in America.This is front page news.Their lack of P.R. ready pisses me off.
40 posted on 01/26/2006 7:53:24 AM PST by patriciamary
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To: Col. Bob

This guy does not know how to sell a book.

If instead he wrote about how there were no WMD and ole Saddam was just toying with President Bush making him think there were, now that would get him to #1 on the NYSlimes Best Seller List in a freaking NY minute!

Look for this one to be hidden on the back shelf of your local bookstore.


41 posted on 01/26/2006 8:02:57 AM PST by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: Col. Bob
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
42 posted on 01/26/2006 8:11:41 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: dmz

"So, a country in which we enforced a no-fly zone for, what, a dozen years, kept electronic surveillance on, pointed our satellites at, was able to move WMD from point A to point B without our knowledge. And we have not got a clue? Ouch."

I believe that our gummint knows the reality but refuses to admit it. If GWB, in his presser today said,"We know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the wmd's from sadman's iraq are in syria". The first question would be, "What are you going to do"? I don't think GWB is ready to take on syria when we are looking at iran. Assad knows that if he lets those weapons out and they are used, there will be no place called damascus. Nor syria. Period.


43 posted on 01/26/2006 8:17:44 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: MizSterious
Plus, satellite photos showed convoys of trucks heading for Syria--what was in those?

Wedding party supplies.

44 posted on 01/26/2006 8:20:10 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Col. Bob

bump


45 posted on 01/26/2006 8:26:43 AM PST by lesser_satan
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To: Fruitbat

LOL--except for the ones carrying "baby milk"!


46 posted on 01/26/2006 8:54:54 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: pissant

Got a link about the Romanian?


47 posted on 01/26/2006 8:56:35 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon

Here's an article I found first. He's written others on the subject as well.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030820-081256-6822r.htm


48 posted on 01/26/2006 9:15:42 AM PST by pissant
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To: Wristpin
The problem here is that the Administration has capitulated that the prewar intelligence was wrong. If they know the WMD's are in Syria why haven't they done anything about it? They let the Dems steal the moral authority away from the war, leading to fiercer oppostion from the insurgency. Before anyone says it's a Rove "rope a dope", political strategy is way down the priority list in this case.

It doesn't make any sense.

We are watching a 3 dimensional chess game while only being permitted to view one of the three boards.

The USA took very strong (and necessary) action against Iraq with the strongest foreign opposition we have ever faced in these types of circumstances. We have disrupted a huge financial gravy train for Russia, France, Germany and who knows where else. We are working to do the same in the United Nations. When I become frustrated and impatient with our President, I refocus on the heavy lifting that has been and is being done by President George W. Bush. Heavy lifting that has been avoided by generations of Presidents. Heavy lifting that has been under attack by the hyena pack press, traitors in Congress, foreign financiers, foreign governmental leaders and the entertainment media as we have never seen before.

When I think of the united, corrupt opposition to our President, I am amazed that he has accomplished what he has accomplished and that God has protected him from assassination.

So, in response to your question/comment: President Bush has navigated a chess game way beyond all of his smart critics. He has taken his arrows and will continue to do so. But his moves, so far, have made better progress than I would have dreamed possible considering the obstacles. He has my respect.

49 posted on 01/26/2006 9:33:13 AM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Col. Bob
But now the bar has been raised and it has to be nuclear weapons to count.
50 posted on 01/26/2006 12:50:49 PM PST by tiki
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