Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Palestinians have spoken--Election of Hamas put final nail in coffin of peace process
Yedioth Internet ^ | 1-26-06 | Gershon Baskin

Posted on 01/26/2006 11:22:08 AM PST by SJackson

The Palestinian people have spoken and their voice has been heard. No, the results did not surprise me; I have been speaking about a 55 percent Hamas victory for several weeks. The handwriting was on the walls, but the pollsters and the analysts failed to see it. The majority of Palestinians chose Hamas not only as a protest vote against the corruption of Fatah and the PA, as many Palestinians will tell us.

The people also voted for Hamas because of its political agenda, and the Hamas won because most Palestinians share the belief that the negotiated process based on Oslo was not only bad for Israel, it was perhaps, even worse for Palestinians.

The al-Aqsa intifada received wide public support at its outset from a public that was deeply influenced by the unilateral Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon. In the eyes of Palestinians, 2000 Hizbullah guerillas forced the great and mighty army of Israel to run from southern Lebanon with its tail between its legs.

Hamas government will not be intimidated U.S., EU threats

Likewise, in the eyes of a large majority of Palestinians, Israel evacuated Gaza to the last grain of sand as a result of Hamas’ hitting of Israel inside and outside of Gaza. Israel left Gaza not as a result of a peace process, not as a result of negotiations, not as part of a decision to empower Mahmoud Abbas and his moderate regime. The rise of Hamas is the result of the faulty policies of both Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

The election of Hamas put the final nail in the coffin of the peace process. The only remaining elements of the peace process – the Paris economic protocol under which Israel collects VAT and Customs tariffs and transfers them to the PA treasury will now end. The Road Map for peace is also dead.

Many people are suggesting that Hamas will go through a period of reform and change (as the name of the political party under which they ran suggests).

It is true that Hamas may become more moderate and more practical. Hamas may eventually adopt a position that would allow it to enter into some kind of negotiations with Israel, however, I assess that this is a process that will take years, not days.

Last week Hamas leader in exile, Khaled Mashal met with Iranian President Ahmadinejad; they didn’t only discuss the rising costs of a barrel of oil, they also discussed how much of those windfall profits would be pumped into the Palestinian economy. The Hamas government of the Palestinian Authority will not be intimidated by US and EU threats to stop financial support. Iran’s millions of barrels of oil everyday being pumped and sold all over the world will provide the Palestinian Authority with the ability to withstand any international boycott.

Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and the new Israeli foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, both stated in their speeches in the Herzliya conference this week that the ultimate fulfillment of Israel’s national strategic vision today is the creation of a Palestinian state next to Israel. They both recognize that the only way to reach the end of the conflict is through a negotiated process, but today, it is clear that there is no partner for negotiations on the other side.

Kadima set to gain from Hamas victory

Israel will retain its strategic options for additional unilateralism. Israel will probably continue to act to determine its borders with the Palestinians without negotiations. The decisions that Israel will make will be far reaching, even more dramatic than what the next prime minister probably has in his mind right now – some kind of limited disengagement while holding onto the Jordan Valley and other parts of the West Bank. Israel will not be able to sustain a limited withdrawal and will probably come to the conclusion that it must unilaterally end the occupation.

Will the outcome of the Hamas elections affect the outcome of the Israeli elections? Some people suggest that the Israeli public will respond by turning to the right. I don’t share that assessment. The Israeli public will increase its support for Kadima and for Olmert. The Israeli public understands that it is futile to put demands and conditions on the Palestinians under the Hamas leadership.

The Likud and Benjamin Netanyahu represent freezing the status quo. Those conditions cannot be met and why entrap ourselves into maintaining an unsustainable status quo because of what the Palestinian people have decided. The Israeli public’s determination to support unilateral steps that will strengthen Israel’s defensive position and further increase international support for Israel will strengthen the support for Kadima.

Hamas may try to transport its Qassam rocket war to the West Bank and may even improve the technology of this low-tech non-strategic weapon. Israel will respond to this threat and will have the support of the international community. Without full physical control of the West Bank and Gaza it will be difficult for Israel to prevent a possible ballistic intifada. If this scenario emerges, we may see in the coming years a call for the international community to impose a foreign trusteeship over Palestine in place of the Hamas government. Israel will not be hasty in reoccupying all of Palestine.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: hamas; middleeast; paelection; roadkill; roadmap

1 posted on 01/26/2006 11:22:09 AM PST by SJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

..................

2 posted on 01/26/2006 11:23:55 AM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
This is what The Palestinians want. I'm sure this was about as fair as this election could have been. These people like Hamas and believe in what it stands for. They are the same people who held street parties the on 9/11.
3 posted on 01/26/2006 11:24:21 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Shame, not sanctions - UN policy on Iran)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Indeed, dark times are ahead.

With Prime Minister Sharon in a coma, and Hamas in official control of the Palestinians... Yikes!!!


4 posted on 01/26/2006 11:25:16 AM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure." President Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Emmet Fitzhume

"The Gathering Storm" revisited..


5 posted on 01/26/2006 11:26:23 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Emmet Fitzhume

For Israel, this isn't much worse that Fatah. Fatah's objectives were the same. For the US and EU it's going to be more difficult to portray the terrorists as non-terrorists.


6 posted on 01/26/2006 11:27:47 AM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Emmet Fitzhume

Armageddon -- and so it begins...................


7 posted on 01/26/2006 11:28:31 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Emmet Fitzhume
Indeed, dark times are ahead.

What BS! This is fantastic! Finally the sham peace process has had the final coffin nail put into it.

8 posted on 01/26/2006 11:33:22 AM PST by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

I agree. The Palestinian factions are all terrorists, and history has demonstrated that the west is happy to pay them off. The more people they blow up and the more intransigeant they are, the more money the west sends to buy them off.

Frankly, that worries me less than my sense that the Israeli people seem to be losing the will to defend themselves. I hope they will pull themselves together, and soon.


9 posted on 01/26/2006 11:33:41 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Polyxene
Armageddon -- and so it begins...................

Drama queen alert.

I have faith that the Israeli left will deal with Hamas and drag this charade out for the rest of our life times.

10 posted on 01/26/2006 11:34:07 AM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: AmericaUnited

I don't share your enthusiasm. What's Israel going to do? Start bombing the Palestinians and occupy their territory? Wait--

Let's say Hamas sponsors a terrorist attack in Tel Aviv. What happens next? Carpet bombing Gaza? Like that region could be anymore of a hell-hole than it is now? Like it will make the Palestinians stop attacking Israel? The only other answer is to re-occupy their land - woops! It's no longer disputed territory, it's Palestinian territory. It's an invasion. Now Syria and Iran can claim that Israel has invaded a sovereign territory and start the war in earnest as "allies" of Palestine. Regardless of who was the initial aggressor, Israel is going to be blamed throughout the world and the invading bully. This is a no-win situation for Israel.

The only "good" thing here is that it's probably considerably sped up the timetable for this mess to come to a head.

I understand the thought that this puts Hamas squarely on notice, but so the hell what? They've been "on notice" for a decade now. Anyway we can cut this, it sucks for Israel.


11 posted on 01/26/2006 11:41:59 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
I am not resting until I hear an explanation from the brain-dead liberals about what they mean by "moderate muslims", or more particularly "moderate 'palestinians'".

You know, the ones at risk of injury if we simply bomb the [CENSORED] out of them...?

12 posted on 01/26/2006 11:47:41 AM PST by Publius6961
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Events in the ME have a way of moving directly and quickly to war.


13 posted on 01/26/2006 11:49:03 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: zarf

I wouldn't trivialise the importance of this. Israel is now in deeper trouble than it was before this 'roadmap'. This was no roadmap to 'peace'.

This was a roadmap to Israel's destruction.


14 posted on 01/26/2006 11:49:25 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
For the US and EU it's going to be more difficult to portray the terrorists as non-terrorists.

Or that monumental oxymoron, "innocent muslims".
But I agree, the blind spot will simply get bigger

15 posted on 01/26/2006 11:49:28 AM PST by Publius6961
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Emmet Fitzhume

Anybody got a match?


16 posted on 01/26/2006 11:50:12 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (If stupidity were painful, liberals would be extinct)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Publius6961

"I am not resting until I hear an explanation from the brain-dead liberals about what they mean by "moderate muslims", or more particularly "moderate 'palestinians'"."

I think after this election, any truly moderate Palestinian is leaving the Middle East.


17 posted on 01/26/2006 11:52:02 AM PST by popdonnelly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Publius6961
Arabs (Palestinians in particular) have never been serious in the peace process. The peace process was only a means to gain money and support from the nations of the world. I fear that there is going to be a large fight in the near future reminiscent of the 6 day war. Only this time the Arab world had Saddam's WMD's and Iran's too.
18 posted on 01/26/2006 12:01:44 PM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
Anyway we can cut this, it sucks for Israel.

You just can't be more completely wrong! It gives Israel a perfect, justfied reason to stop making any pretense of going through a PHONY/SHAM peace process. THAT IS A BIG WIN!

19 posted on 01/26/2006 12:16:56 PM PST by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Ashamed Canadian
Israel is now in deeper trouble than it was before this 'roadmap'

Some of you are just such defeatist penny hennys! The true is Hamas is in no better or worse position to strike Israel. They could do whatever they wanted with impunity before and NOTHING has changed. Israel can crush any action on their part. REMEMBER YASSAR HELD PRISONER IN HIS COMPOUND FOR YEAR?!

20 posted on 01/26/2006 12:20:23 PM PST by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Cicero

Israel will share the same fate as Rhodesia and South Africa.

Europe better not snicker and America should keep an open eye.


21 posted on 01/26/2006 12:23:08 PM PST by RedMonqey (People who don't who stand for something, will fall for anything.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: AmericaUnited

Like I said, what are they going to do? Nuke the Palestinians? They can't. Occupy their territory? They already did that. Bomb them? Bomb what? Win the hearts and minds of the Pali street? Won't happen. Decapitate the government? That justifies a response by Syria, Iran, and whoever else wants a piece of Israel.

What do you foresee happening? More houses getting bulldozed? This is a recipe for disaster because the entire region will become involved. No one will be left out.

Better tune up that bicycle. You'll be needing it.


22 posted on 01/26/2006 12:23:14 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: AmericaUnited

I suppose then it will all depend on how much foreign governments legitimise Hamas as a political entity. Hopefully all governements will unite in not qualifying them as such.


23 posted on 01/26/2006 12:45:34 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Polyxene
Armageddon -- and so it begins...................

I think Israel might just roll over and die before anything that dramatic.

24 posted on 01/26/2006 12:52:33 PM PST by Junior_G
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever

It means a better grade of rockets.


25 posted on 01/26/2006 1:11:59 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
Please, with pathetic hand wringers like you, who needs the enemy to demoralize anyone.

Oh wow! Syria and both of their rusted tanks are going to spank Israel. Don't make everyone laugh!

26 posted on 01/26/2006 1:41:59 PM PST by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

If I am not on it already, can you add me to your ping list. THIS is major news ... things are heating up ... .


27 posted on 01/26/2006 4:05:37 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Rutles4Ever
The only other answer is to re-occupy their land - woops! It's no longer disputed territory, it's Palestinian territory.

When Israel occupied it the first time, it was Jordanian and Egyptian territory.

28 posted on 01/26/2006 4:15:02 PM PST by Alouette (Psalm of the Day: 119)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: All

The rhetoric from the Iranian President most probably had a lot to do with Hamas winning. Hamas has Iranian money backing them and also a supply line for weapons. It may lead to false confidence on their part. It won't be long now.


29 posted on 01/26/2006 6:06:12 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2008, if elected YOU DESERVE HER (and HIM! AGAIN!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

The reality is that this is perhaps the best means of gaining the upper hand in the War on Terrorists, radical islam, whatever.

You don't bargain with islamists... You don't reason with them... You don't try to refrom it... You don't negotiate... You don't make concessions... Through their fruits, ye shall know them.

And from what I've seen from my time in the Balkans and now by their own admission at the ballot box, they are nothing more than animals that walk upright and imitate certain human behaviors. They eat, sleep, deficate, and have reproduce to make more terrorists.

But they lack the other attributes that give humans their humanity. Pity, remorse, fear are alien to them. Love... well the fact that they strap bomb packs on their own children shows you that doesn't exist either.

So instead you push them forward. You force them to admit what they are. Demand that the islamists devour every compliant victim. Once they have done so, they will have no more support. There will always be the useful idiots that will bend over backward to make excuses, but with this election, the jet black heart of the majority of the "o-ppressed and occupied" inhabitants of Palestine is on full display for the world to see.

Push them forward. Make them commit their evil in full display of the world. Force them to destroy anyone who would be complicit or support their actions. And forcefully and decisively deal with those deemed a threat.

What I think is so laughable about Iran is their continued goading of the U.S. Last time I checked, we had the capability of destroying 117 billion people. That's 18 times the current world population. You think your 68 million will take any effort at all? So go ahead and build you bomb... you are still so badly outgunned is pathetic you would even entertain the idea.


30 posted on 01/27/2006 1:29:27 AM PST by tribalnation (Nuwato hiyadv Anadanvtli)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Alouette
As usual if the Israelis would only listen to me I can solve this 'problem' in less than 30 days.

The Israeli government should announce loudly and publicly that the area from which the next homicide bomber or rocket comes from will be pushed back 1 kilometer by Israeli bulldozers backed by tanks. No house to house fighting, no 'clearing out', just raze 1 kilometer to the ground.

If it comes from the West Bank, start rolling the tanks and bulldozers 1 kilometer closer to Jordan. If it comes from the Golan Heights, 1 kilometer closer to Syria. Gaza? same thing, 1 kilometer closer to Egypt.

Eventually, the arabs (I refuse to call them 'palestinians, there's no such thing) will either stop the killings or be driven back into Jordan, Syria, and Egypt where they belong.

Either way, Israel wins and Hamas loses.

Problem solved.

Besides, now that Hamas runs the 'pali' government any attack on Israel becomes an act not of terrorism, but a State sanctioned Act Of War.

L

31 posted on 01/27/2006 1:41:18 AM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson