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Remembering Challenger 20 Years Later
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/26/06 | Mike Schneider - ap

Posted on 01/26/2006 11:53:26 AM PST by NormsRevenge

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Twenty years ago, space shuttle Challenger blew apart into jets of fire and plumes of smoke, a terrifying sight witnessed by the families of the seven astronauts and by those who came to watch the historic launch of the first teacher in space.

The disaster shattered NASA's spit-shined image and the belief that spaceflight could become as routine as airplane travel. The investigation into the accident's cause revealed a space agency more concerned with schedules and public relations than safety and sound decision-making.

Seventeen years later, seven more astronauts were lost on the shuttle Columbia, leading many to conclude NASA had not learned the lessons of Challenger.

But after last summer's successful return to flight under the highest level of engineering scrutiny ever, many space watchers are more hopeful.

"Don't we all learn as we go?" said Grace Corrigan, who lost her daughter, teacher Christa McAuliffe, in the Challenger accident. "Everybody learns from their mistakes."

Joining McAuliffe on the doomed Jan. 28, 1986 Challenger flight were commander Dick Scobee, pilot Mike Smith and astronauts Ellison Onizuka, Judy Resnik, Ron McNair and Greg Jarvis.

"It was one of those defining moments in your life that you will always remember," said U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla., who had flown on the shuttle mission preceding Challenger. "Because in 1986, the space shuttle was the symbol of technological prowess of the United States and all the sudden it's destroyed in front of everybody's eyes."

The two shuttle disasters, as well as the deaths of the Apollo 1 crew during a 1967 launch pad test, taught the space agency how to improve the herculean task of launching humans into space, NASA administrator Michael Griffin said recently. On Thursday, NASA workers paused for their annual Day of Remembrance in honor of those lost in all three accidents. On Saturday, a ceremony remembering the Challenger accident is planned at Kennedy Space Center.

Challenger was brought down just after liftoff by a poorly designed seal in the shuttle's solid rocket booster, which has since been redesigned and has performed without problems. It will be used on the next-generation vehicle with plans to return astronauts to the moon and later to Mars.

"We learned how to design solid rocket boosters ... with no further failures," Griffin said. "We got that from the Challenger crew, so that is part of the learning process, I'm afraid."

The Challenger disaster came in an era of tighter budgets, smaller work forces and a constant need for the space agency to justify the shuttle program that followed the heyday of the Apollo moon shots. NASA had hoped sending a teacher into space to give a lesson would win back some public interest and show the routine nature of shuttle flights.

The success of the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs had led NASA to believe that spaceflight eventually could become as commonplace as an airplane ride, said Stanley Reinartz, the former manager of the shuttle project office at the Marshall Spaceflight Center in Huntsville, Ala. He made the decision not to take engineers' concerns about the Challenger's O-ring seals to the highest reaches of NASA management.

"Things can go wrong," Reinartz said of the decision to launch. "You don't get away from it. It's always there."

Nelson said he is confident that the current NASA leaders have learned the lessons of management hubris from their predecessors. Griffin grounded the shuttle fleet last summer after foam fell off the tank of Discovery during the first shuttle flight after Columbia. It was a chunk of foam debris that doomed Columbia by knocking a hole in its wing.

"The problem that NASA has had that caused the destruction of both space shuttles is the same reason ... arrogance in the management of NASA so that they were not listening to the engineers on the line," Nelson said.

But some critics wonder how long the 2-year-old reforms and attitude changes implemented after Columbia will last until, once again, dissenting opinion is discouraged and NASA managers override the concerns of their engineers.

In a series of telephone conference calls the night before Challenger's liftoff, engineers from NASA contractor Morton Thiokol recommended against a launch because data showed that cold temperatures compromised the O-rings' resiliency. The temperature at launch time was 36 degrees. Under perceived pressure from NASA managers, Thiokol managers reversed themselves and went against the recommendation of their engineers not to launch, according to the investigation by a commission appointed by President Reagan.

"The presidential commission made very powerful and strong recommendations on how the system needed to be fixed," said Roger Boisjoly, a former Thiokol engineer who had opposed the Challenger launch during the conference calls. "Initially NASA installed every one of those (recommendations), but in the ensuing years proceeded to dismantle them."

Griffin said he is reminded of the early days of the nation's air transport system when scores of test pilots died in plane accidents during the early part of last century.

"The knowledge we gained was gained only through many, many losses," Griffin said. "That is the perspective through which we must look at our losses in spaceflight."

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On the Net:

NASA's Web site on the history of the Challenger accident:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/sts51l.html

NASA Day of Remembrance: http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/dor_front/index.html


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 20years; anniversary; challenger; later; nasa; remembering; spaceshuttle; sts51l

Teachers in Space project logo for mission STS 51-L


1 posted on 01/26/2006 11:53:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Grace Corrigan, right, mother of teacher-astronaut Christa McAuliffe, speaks with Sue Darnell-Ellis, of Kentucky, left, and Carolyn Dobbins, of Tenn., center, who were both in the NASA's Teacher-in-Space Program with McAuliffe in 1985, after the showing of the documentary, 'Christa McAuliffe: Reach for the Stars,' Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2006, at Framingham, Mass. State College, McAuliffe's alma mater. The showing commemorates the 20th anniversary of the Challenger explosion in 1986, in which McAuliffe and six other astronauts died. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)


2 posted on 01/26/2006 11:55:41 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

I recently saw something on a NASA poster about the reusable boosters that said they had had more than 3 decades of safe flight. Is this just the Challenger down the memory hole?


3 posted on 01/26/2006 11:56:18 AM PST by aruanan
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RIP


4 posted on 01/26/2006 11:57:18 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

RIP

5 posted on 01/26/2006 12:01:55 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: NormsRevenge; Reagan Man

I remember when that happened. I was 5 years old, and I was at home sick. My mom turned on the launch on Tv, since I was a space nut. It was almost immediately clear that something was wrong. When it was confirmed, I made a card with ink stamps and sent it to NASA. I got a letter from NASA in response, and it is now framed at my parents' house.


6 posted on 01/26/2006 12:04:08 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

Feels like 1986 was yesterday to me. I was young too: 11 at the time.


7 posted on 01/26/2006 12:07:41 PM PST by jdm
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To: NormsRevenge

I was in 5th grade. Our class watched it happen on TV.


8 posted on 01/26/2006 12:08:26 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: NormsRevenge

9 posted on 01/26/2006 12:11:22 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Challenger is my generation's "Do you remember where you were when..." event. I vividly remember being in the lounge of my college dorm and overhearing the announcement from the television in the next room. Everyone was stunned and silent. I felt my heart sink. It was a very sad day.


10 posted on 01/26/2006 12:11:30 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Pyro7480

I was working that day, and one of our more typically hysterical people came into the office shouting that the shuttle had exploded. Since she had a reputation for flying off the handle, I figured it had suffered some malfunction, or one of the engines had shut down early, or even that she had seen the SRB sep and didn't know what it meant.

Then I turned on the radio.

I spent my lunch break at the nearby mall watching the aftermath on a department store TV, and that night I wrote a letter to President Reagan urging that the space program continue as a way of honoring the lives of the astronauts.

I still choke up every time I hear "Go for throttle-up" during a launch.


11 posted on 01/26/2006 12:13:04 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I remember Challenger. I was working for McDonnell Douglas on Mission Support -- or rather just got off that. 51-L was the first mission that I did not support since STS-4.

Two years earlier - in 1984 - we had celebrated the 25th anniversary of the first Moon landing.

In five years I'll be looking at the 25th anniversary of Challenger. And we will still be no closer to returning to the Moon than we were in 1984.
12 posted on 01/26/2006 12:13:47 PM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Norm Nice!! Thanks for posting the thread!


13 posted on 01/26/2006 12:14:34 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: jdm

I'm no spring chicken like you kids,
but it sure doesn't seem like 20 years
to me, either!


14 posted on 01/26/2006 12:16:56 PM PST by Grendel9 (u ()
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To: No Truce With Kings
I remember Challenger. I was working for McDonnell Douglas on Mission Support -- or rather just got off that. 51-L was the first mission that I did not support since STS-4.

We may have met.... I had just started working for Rockwell then. We were up in the old MDAC building, listening to NASA select on the radio. I still remember it like it was yesterday.

15 posted on 01/26/2006 12:20:12 PM PST by r9etb
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To: lesser_satan

I was in third grade. It was unbelievable.


16 posted on 01/26/2006 12:20:41 PM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: SlowBoat407
Address to the nation on the Challenger disaster Oval Office
January 28, 1986

Ladies and gentlemen, I'd planned to speak to you tonight to report on the state of the union, but the events of earlier today have led me to change those plans. Today is a day for mourning and remembering. Nancy and I are pained to the core by the tragedy of the shuttle Challenger. We know we share this pain with all of the people of our country. This is truly a national loss.

Nineteen years ago, almost to the day, we lost three astronauts in a terrible accident on the ground. But we've never lost an astronaut in flight; we've never had a tragedy like this. And perhaps we've forgotten the courage it took for the crew of the shuttle; but they, the Challenger Seven, were aware of the dangers, but overcame them and did their jobs brilliantly. We mourn seven heroes: Michael Smith, Dick Scobee, Judith Resnik, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Gregory Jarvis, and Christa McAuliffe. We mourn their loss as a nation together.

For the families of the seven, we cannot bear, as you do, the full impact of this tragedy. But we feel the loss, and we're thinking about you so very much. Your loved ones were daring and brave, and they had that special grace, that special spirit that says, "Give me a challenge and I'll meet it with joy." They had a hunger to explore the universe and discover its truths. They wished to serve, and they did. They served all of us.

We've grown used to wonders in this century. It's hard to dazzle us. But for 25 years the United States space program has been doing just that. We've grown used to the idea of space, and perhaps we forget that we've only just begun. We're still pioneers. They, the members of the Challenger crew, were pioneers.

And I want to say something to the school children of America who were watching the live coverage of the shuttle's takeoff. I know it is hard to understand, but sometimes painful things like this happen. It's all part of the process of exploration and discovery. It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them.

I've always had great faith in and respect for our space program, and what happened today does nothing to diminish it. We don't hide our space program. We don't keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That's the way freedom is, and we wouldn't change it for a minute. We'll continue our quest in space. There will be more shuttle flights and more shuttle crews and yes, more volunteers, more civilians, more teachers in space. Nothing ends here; our hopes and our journeys continue.

I want to add that I wish I could talk to every man and woman who works for NASA or who worked on this mission and tell them: "Your dedication and professionalism have moved and impressed us for decades. And we know of your anguish. We share it."

There's a coincidence today. On this day 390 years ago, the great explorer Sir Francis Drake died aboard ship off the coast of Panama. In his lifetime the great frontiers were the oceans, and a historian later said, "He lived by the sea, died on it, and was buried in it." Well, today we can say of the Challenger crew: Their dedication was, like Drake's, complete.

The crew of the space shuttle Challenger honored us by the manner in which they lived their lives. We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved good-bye and "slipped the surly bonds of earth" to "touch the face of God."

17 posted on 01/26/2006 12:26:57 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

I was stationed in Korea - woke up to prepare for work and turned the radio on to a very excited announcer telling of the tragedy.


18 posted on 01/26/2006 12:44:45 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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Wow...has it really been twenty years?

I was nine...it was our first year of homeschooling. We were watching the launch when the explosion happened. I just remember looking over at Mom, not really understanding what had just happened - it was very fast. It was a shock when I learned that it was gone, just like that, with all those people.


19 posted on 01/26/2006 12:49:51 PM PST by RosieCotton
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To: Pyro7480

Thanks for posting Reagan's wonderful and eloquent speech. On reading it, it seems even more poignant today than it did that day. It brought a tear to my eye again.


20 posted on 01/26/2006 1:02:20 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents; SlowBoat407
You can watch video of the speech at the following link:

http://cstl-cla.semo.edu/renka/Modern_Presidents/reagan_speeches.htm#Second_presidential_term

21 posted on 01/26/2006 1:04:58 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: No Truce With Kings
In five years I'll be looking at the 25th anniversary of Challenger. And we will still be no closer to returning to the Moon than we were in 1984.

"What you mean we, paleface?" The growing proficiency of the private space effort gives me hope for the future! World-changing breakthroughs are unpredictable evidences of common grace. Carbon nanotubes are almost to the point of making beanstalks feasible.

22 posted on 01/26/2006 1:15:07 PM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: chae

You were a wee pup..I remember the day like it was yesterday.


23 posted on 01/26/2006 2:13:10 PM PST by Dog ( Ayman al-Zawahiri .....Sleeps with the fish's.....enjoy those raisins.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The mission of Challengers crew continues.....

http://www.challenger.org/


24 posted on 01/26/2006 2:37:21 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: NormsRevenge

a poorly designed seal in the shuttle's solid rocket booster, which has since been redesigned and has performed "...without problems. It will be used on the next-generation vehicle with plans to return astronauts to the moon and later to Mars."

"We learned how to design solid rocket boosters ... with no further failures," Griffin said. "We got that from the Challenger crew, so that is part of the learning process, I'm afraid."

Wow, they've been launching this thing in temps as cold or colder than the Challenger launch and the seal's been working fine? Cool.


25 posted on 01/26/2006 2:38:07 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: All
It's good too see some of our younger members posting their single digit ages. It's comforting that our older members did fine in raising their children.

That's legacy to be proud of

BTW....I was 30.

26 posted on 01/26/2006 3:09:16 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: NormsRevenge

I was a 2nd class cadet at the CGA in New London, CT. I got the word at the lunch formation, and the TV was on in every day room in Chase Hall.

I remember feeling as if we had been attacked as a country, and that people would think we were weak. It doesn't seem logical to me now, but I remember exactly that even 20 years later.


27 posted on 01/26/2006 3:14:05 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (If stupidity were painful, liberals would be extinct)
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To: RinaseaofDs
It must have been the atmosphere of the times.

I was a junior in college and sharing an apartment two ROTC guys. We all had the same feeling; that we were somehow exposing a weakness to the world just when we where at the pinnacle of displaying our strength militarily and economically.

President Reagan's speech is just as meaningful to me now as it was when we watched it that night.

28 posted on 01/28/2006 5:25:35 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Pyro7480
Though it's said you're never supposed to know who the speech writers are, this speech is a prime example of the awesome collaboration between President Reagan and Peggy Noonan.
29 posted on 01/28/2006 5:27:56 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Pyro7480

I know your feeling.

I was in pre-school but I didn't have school that day for whatever reason.

I was watching the launch because I too was into the space thing and I had an impression that MY pre-school teacher was on board. And she did kinda look like her too, but it wasn't the same lady.

So when the shuttle exploded, I ran to my mom, who wasn't watching in the other room, that Ms. Bender had just blown up!! She told me to quit screwing around, but then I dragged her into the other room and she saw the explosion.

She then told me that Ms. Bender had gotten married, not gone on the shuttle....I wouldn't have known the difference. She was still on her honeymoon :)


30 posted on 01/28/2006 5:31:42 AM PST by MikefromOhio (")
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To: No Truce With Kings

1984 - 1959 = 25

What landed on the moon in '59?

(yeah, I know this is two days old...)


31 posted on 01/28/2006 5:32:26 AM PST by dakine
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To: Pyro7480; jdm
My older sister was home sick that day, so I went over to her class to get her books and work assignments. Her class was going to be part of the study program with Christie MacAuliffe so they were watching the launch. Everything seemed to be going fine, so Mr. Smith turned toward his desk to get the assignments. The Challenger exploded just then. I stayed there for several minutes before heading back to my class, where I had a hard time convincing my teacher of what had just happened.
32 posted on 01/28/2006 5:40:11 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I see storms on the horizon")
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To: dakine

"1984 - 1959 = 25"

Yup, I dropped a ten. It was the 15th Anniversary I was remembering.

"
(yeah, I know this is two days old...)"

Understand perfectly. Why not, if you don't have anything better to do?


33 posted on 01/28/2006 7:08:29 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: NormsRevenge

34 posted on 01/28/2006 7:53:48 AM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: No Truce With Kings

I was sitting on a console monitoring this launch. Bad day. :-(

Fortunately I was in bed during the Columbia disaster, however, it too hit home snnce I was apart of the Space Shuttle support team that helped launch Columbia on its maiden voyage 12 April 1981.


35 posted on 01/28/2006 9:27:42 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Prime Choice

Good to see you my old friend! :-)


36 posted on 01/28/2006 9:28:07 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

"I was sitting on a console monitoring this launch. Bad day. :-("

Had Mac-Dac not lost the contract to RSOC, I likely would have been in one of the Mission Control back rooms at launch. I had just been around long enough that I likely would have been scheduled to work the first on-orbit shift after launch. Insted, I had transfered to work supporting the Engineering Directorate.

"Fortunately I was in bed during the Columbia disaster, however, it too hit home snnce I was apart of the Space Shuttle support team that helped launch Columbia on its maiden voyage 12 April 1981."

Unfortunately, that was the first mission I supported after returning to the Shuttle program after an eight year adventure in E-commerce. Woke up, checked Free Republic, read that it was five minutes overdue at KSC . . . and knew we had lost another one.

Called up some friends in Palestine, TX (where I had lived during my e-commerce adventure) and asked them if they had heard anything. One friend said, "Yeah, it sounded like there was this big train wreck that went on and on for about a minute. What do you think it was?"

I replied, "I think it was the Orbiter. We've lost another one."


37 posted on 01/28/2006 10:57:34 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: jdm

I was 11 and in 5th grade, too. I couldn't believe it.


38 posted on 01/28/2006 11:03:34 AM PST by mysterio
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To: No Truce With Kings

I wonder if we know each other. I was on the mission control team for the Magellan. (First interplanetary launched on a Shuttle)


39 posted on 01/28/2006 11:15:42 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: TalBlack
Wow, they've been launching this thing in temps as cold or colder than the Challenger launch and the seal's been working fine? Cool.

They did a couple of things, at least. First, they designed a "positive capture" seal shape that seals tighter when pressure is applied from inside. Second, they now heat the joints before liftoff.

40 posted on 01/28/2006 11:25:03 AM PST by poindexter
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