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(st joseph county)Commissioners Veto Smoking Ban
http://www.wsbt.com/ ^ | 1 26 06 | wsbt.com

Posted on 01/27/2006 5:28:47 AM PST by freepatriot32

A proposed smoking ban in St. Joe County has hit a roadblock. Thursday night, county commissioners vetoed the ban passed by the county council last week.

After more than two hours of public testimony, commissioners voted two to one to veto the measure, sending it back to the council.

Commissioner Mark Dobson says he turned down the ban because the restaurant community wasn't involved enough in the process.

“I could support a well-crafted ordinance but I am very upset that the mom and pop restaurant community tavern community in this area was not engaged on this ordinance,” said Dobson.

Commissioner Cindy Bodle also voted against the ban. Commissioner Steve Ross voted in favor of the ban.

This all now goes back to the County Council, which can vote to override the Commissioners veto and lets the ban go into effect in April. The Council could also uphold the veto, which would kill the ordinance and send the process back to square one.

The Council will decide February 14th.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: ban; commissioners; county; govwatch; indiana; libertarians; pufflist; smoking; stjoseph; veto
earlier story on the ban passing is here St. Joseph County(indiana) OKs smoking ban

if you look at the video near the end of it there is an overweight woman talking about how they will keep at it until they pass a ban. I wonder if she realises that if she wins and passes a smoking ban fattie foods and alcohol will be next?

1 posted on 01/27/2006 5:28:51 AM PST by freepatriot32
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To: SheLion; Gabz
ping it looks like the good guys win one temporarily at least it goes back to the county council on the 14th of February to see if the veto sticks.
2 posted on 01/27/2006 5:30:31 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
3 posted on 01/27/2006 5:41:48 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: freepatriot32
I don't smoke, so I really don't have a dog in this fight. However, I do believe that all of these efforts to control other people's habits are wrong and, if continued to their extremes, will erode the freedoms that we so enjoy.

I can hear the argument coming that second hand smoke is harmful, carcinogenic or whatever. Save yourselves some verbiage because I happen to doubt that very much. Perhaps if you were in an unventilated room with many people smoking, it might do some harm. That is seldom the case though.

What I consider really harmful to the nation is the ever growing number of control freaks out there.

4 posted on 01/27/2006 5:49:37 AM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh
What I consider really harmful to the nation is the ever growing number of control freaks out there.

You andm e both what really galls me is about 50 percent of the control freaks out there are republican freepers check back later and im sure you will see them on this very thread it disgusts me to no end

5 posted on 01/27/2006 7:14:16 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: davisfh

"I don't smoke, so I really don't have a dog in this fight."

Everyone has a dog in this fight. This is not about smoker's rights to smoke, nor non-smokers "right" to breath clean air. This is solely about the property owner's right to use his/her property as he/she sees fit. For a good explanation about this issue, check out this article by Walter Williams:

"Harm's a two way street"

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/walterwilliams/2003/11/19/160293.html


6 posted on 01/27/2006 8:13:32 AM PST by CSM (Lick a finger, politicize the wind, and place the finger into the wind. - EGPWS, 1/26/2006)
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To: freepatriot32
Glad they vetoed it.

It's funny to be lectured about smoking by an obese person.
7 posted on 01/27/2006 8:16:17 AM PST by mysterio
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To: CSM

Yes, you're right. Just didn't think of it that way.


8 posted on 01/27/2006 9:12:15 AM PST by davisfh
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To: freepatriot32
Well - I'm the guy that thinks anyone should be free to do to their own bodies as they wish - but - not present hazard to other's health. The pendulum is swinging in the direction of my views, so I don't think I so odd.

Where I live there is a major gambling operation that now offers a smoke-free floor.

As far as the private property angle - there is nothing strange about governments enacting safety regulations to "promote the general welfare" of the citizens. I wouldn't be comfortable in buildings without fire alarms, adequate exits or with poor sanitation (all mandated as required by law). Tobacco smoke has been well proven to be a harm to health and I avoid it like the plague.

9 posted on 01/27/2006 4:56:08 PM PST by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity.)
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To: davisfh
I don't smoke, so I really don't have a dog in this fight. However, I do believe that all of these efforts to control other people's habits are wrong and, if continued to their extremes, will erode the freedoms that we so enjoy. I can hear the argument coming that second hand smoke is harmful, carcinogenic or whatever. Save yourselves some verbiage because I happen to doubt that very much. Perhaps if you were in an unventilated room with many people smoking, it might do some harm. That is seldom the case though. What I consider really harmful to the nation is the ever growing number of control freaks out there.

Your comments bear repeating! I applaud your common sense statements.

10 posted on 01/28/2006 4:10:14 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: winston2
). Tobacco smoke has been well proven to be a harm to health and I avoid it like the plague.

Good thing there are gazillions of places where you can go to avoid cigarette smoke. You have a choice.

11 posted on 01/28/2006 4:13:09 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: freepatriot32

The liberal facists are infiltrating and trying to control everything, the news media, colleges, the bureaucracy, etc. What makes you think free republic and the republican party are immune. That's how the nazis took over germany. Read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.


12 posted on 02/02/2006 11:13:39 PM PST by pyoursu
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