Skip to comments.FREEPERS!!! Give John Kerry his due credit. Seriously
Posted on 01/27/2006 7:47:05 AM PST by jsk10
An aide to Sen. Cornyn said that John Kerry is like "Christmas every day" for Republicans. Someone here said it was "Christmas in Cambodia" every day for Republicans. God bless 'em both. But what I REALLY want, is John Kerry to be the 2008 nominee for the Dems. Seriously. We couldn't get Dean in '04, but if we can make sure John Kerry gets credit for his political ploy here, maybe it will be the best gift of all.
I actually am serious about this. Those that dissent from my opinion will not be flamed. But who would you rather have carrying the (d) mantle. Sharpton?
John Kerry, the gift that keeps giving.
Absolutely Sharpton. Though I'd take him as Hillary's VEEP candidate too.
I hear what your saying.... But Hillary will eliminate the competition for 08... He may be the best veep canidate.. but it is Hillary's dance in 08.... Granted it will produce the same results as a Kerry Run... Further nailing the coffin shut on the Dems coffin.
Motto: "Aw, F*** it."
Kerry doesn't need credit as long as he has Theresa.
I seriously would put that bumper sticker on my car. And drive it to church!
Yes, I'd rather have Al Sharpton carry the (d) mantle.
Honestly, I think Hillary would be the best opponent the GOP could hope for.
The only thing better would be Kerry/Gore !
"Honestly, I think Hillary would be the best opponent the GOP could hope for."
It's true. The Dems are so nuts right now they just might do it to!
I am sorry but I cannot give Kerry credit for anything - in fact when I think of giving him something the only thing that comes to mind is the finger.
As long as there enough people who will support this fool and those like him it is a very serious sign that we are still in big trouble - I vote we all give him the finger - I know it won't help but for the moment we will feel better.
I'm not so sure about that. hillary has the support of the media, that's for sure, but read the DUmpster and you will she ain't popular with democrat moonbat base, who are probably 75% of the democrat primary voters.
Well since the bigger a looser you are in the democratic party the more of a hero you become ... I would truly expect a Kerry/Gore or Kerry/Dean ticket ... maybe even Kerry/Dashel!
Heck now that I think about it ... lets bring back some of the untimate loosers of all time ... Carter/Mondale 2006 !
And we should back Gore as DNC chairman when Dean goes down in flames.
Jeez, I hope no DU lurkers see this thread.
[snort] LOL... [wiping coffee from screen]
Hmm...actually, the only thing better would be Carter/Gore. Two southern nitwits with serious mental problems, convinced that each is the Messiah, while keeping Gore in his deservedly subordinate role as Presidential Puppy-cleaner-upper.
Unfortunately, James Earl carter proved to be so inept as Preseident that even democrats noticed, so we will never see him get close to the levers of power again. As for Al, the poster boy for Prozac, the American people have shown a willingness to accept a cigar-store-Indian-type-in-Earth-tones, but only if his boss is a walking advertisement for Lifetime Television (i.e. every feminist's dream/psychopathic nightmare). It's one of the reasons why Kerry lost: he was a stiff and asking to be the Boss. Who would entertain us?
Right now, Hilary and Pretty-Boy-of-the-month (either Edwards or Bayh) seems like the right losing combination to me.
I was in the Navy at the same time as Kerry, and my usual reaction to him just on that fact is........well, unprintable.
I'm equally sure that he hasn't got a policy or plan in his entire brain trust that I would support.
I wouldn't vote for him for Dogcatcher.
With all that in mind, my nomination for the Dim 2008 Dream (or nightmare) Team is: Kerry/Murtha
"Gather ye 'round, mortal peons, whilst I hurl this sphere of horsehide into yon leather device on the hand of he called 'catcher.' For who among us does not love the ball of base? Did I mention I served in Vietnam?"
"Two southern nitwits with serious mental problems, convinced that each is the Messiah, NEITHER OF WHOM COULD CARRY THEIR HOME STATE, while keeping Gore in his deservedly subordinate role as Presidential Puppy-cleaner-upper."
Sure there may be pockets going more conservative, but overall people are becoming more liberal and "moderation" is becoming what many people want.
Kerry should be exiled to North Vietnam since he loves them so much. What did they do to war time collaborators in WWII?
Kerry's time is way overdue. Maybe he and Kennedy could make a party of it. Crash and burn together!
Sharpton seems to think he's got a shot at the ticket. No joke.
Any one of the "nine dwarves" that ran last time would be fine. Hell, I'll even toss in that Clinton bimbo.
In fact Hillarity and Mostly Braun would be a real good ticket!
Oh come on. You should at least give him credit for being a snappy dresser.
I would rather the Democrats put forth a candidate with integrity, and with the much more "conservative" views the party once held on many issues. It's unlikely to happen in the forseeable future, but I can dream can't I?
I absolutely agree with you to a point. Hubris is dangerous. But that is why it is all the more important to have a WEAK Dem. candidate. Seriously. Give me Kerry/Sharpton/Kucinich on the Dem ticket, and I'll put up any two Repubs with a Falwell, Robertson, and Jenna Bush cabinet. We'd win with 65% of the vote.
Actually, a good number of those Kerry votes were "anyone but Bush votes" without any other outlet. At least in 2000, the tie-died-tree-hugging-latte-swilling-faux-disaffected crowdn had Nader to pull the lever for. Not so lucky this time around. These were simply Howard Dean votes (and Howard Dean money, which is why he's still on the scene. The dems learned they can both keep Dean's money machine and trick his legions into believing they've been heard, by keeping Dean himself far away from the ballot, but giving him a sinecure with prestige).
Interesting thought experiment; suppose Dean managed to survive on some third-party ticket. Now run the numbers in a race of Bush-Kerry-Dean. Does John Kerry still garner 56 million or so votes? Does he still carry any major electoral jackpot other than California? Answer: Hell no. I believe he loses Washington, Oregon and possibly Wisconsin in this scenario.
Don't believe for a second that Kerry was all that popular amongst democrats. The early hype for Dean and the screams for "Hilary NOW!", should have made that apparent. However, he was the candidate the apparatchiks wanted and so democrats did what they were told and voted for him.
Had there been a viable, credible third-party candidate, even serving as a symbolic protest (like Nader in 2000, who cost Gore Florida), Kerry would have lost by a much wider margin.
Kerry or Clintoon, or maybe a Kerry Clintoon ticket! Yeah!
Give me a strong, conservative candidate, and who cares what the Dems do.
Edit twice, post once.
I'm betting on Mrs. Bill Clinton / Obama Barak (sp?) '08
I have a "winning" ticket for the 'Rats:
Actually, the REAL democratic party problem: they have a pool of potential candidates who haven't realized that the Summer of Love is over, and in the end, accomplished nothing.
The problem is psychological. The 1960's, to them, is the watershed event of their lives. They believe they "spoke truth to power" and "fought the establishment" without realizing they did nothing of the sort, on the one hand, and that they have become the establishment (that whioch they hated!), on the other. They haven't grown up mentally or ideologically. They cannot let their (mostly wasted) youth go. The current crop of Dem front-runners are, to our lasting shame, the "best" of the most narcissistic, ignorant, selfish generation ever coddled on American shores. That is until THEIR children grow up to assume responsibility, of course.
And with that 1960's mindset comes 1960's ideas, most of them demonstrably wrong, but like cats, you can't teach 'em anything.
Hillary's numbers are looking pretty good. (For the Republicans).
Many factors kept Florida from Gore, first and foremost was God's intervention. I'm just saying that it is silly for us to think that a "conservative" will win big in 06.
I could very well be wrong but even if another reagan were to come around I feel he wouldn't/couldn't get elected. I wish it were not true but the 5th columnists have set up shop and they are here to stay.
i meant 2008, not 2006
I'm with you. Only I'm hoping for Kerry and Gore and a return to inspired skits on SNL.
Your absolutely right - some credit may be due here - while some do believe clothes make the man all this Pix proves is that even in a bunny suit he is still an ass.
I just can't stop laughing whenever I see that picture. It's so much like Ralphie in that bunny suit in "A Christmas Story."
I'm actually considering moving my "Run Hillary Run" bumper sticker from the front of my car, to the back of my car.
No problem. But define "conservative", since that seems to have morphed from "responsible-tax-cutting-small-government-types", to a mirror image of it's democratic counterpart, i.e. "big-government-spend-it-all-buying-votes-with-other-people's-money-types".
When I stop to thnk about the ballooning federal budgets in the last five years, all the pork, the apparent lack of morals (i.e. DeLay's troubles, Abramoff), I'm beginning to wonder if there any "conservatives" left. Except those that will keep a republican who can win (like a Guiliani) off the ticket in 2008 (not pro-life and labelled a "gun-grabber", messy personal life). The ones within the party apparatus who control the money and delegates.
So, if you have a TRUE conservative in mind, with the ability to actually win (i.e. have wide appeal while openly espousing a conservative agenda), I'm all ears. I certainly don't know of one.
Shhh! Don't wake him from his delusional trance!
I submit that your only Republican hopes in 2008 are Rice, Gingrich and Giuliani, or any combination thereof. One an ideological unknown, a true conservative and a moderate republican.
My guess: the party apparatus will cut it's nose off to spite it's face, and rather than have to advance Rice and Giuliani will opt instead for McCain/Allen. In that case, 2008 is a lost cause.
Oh, God, I really don't. I don't think I could take any more of John Kerry, please, no more. Whine. Whine. :-(