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Darwinist Ideologues Are on the Run
Human Events Online ^ | Jan 31, 2006 | Allan H. Ryskind

Posted on 01/30/2006 10:27:35 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow

The two scariest words in the English language? Intelligent Design! That phrase tends to produce a nasty rash and night sweats among our elitist class.

Should some impressionable teenager ever hear those words from a public school teacher, we are led to believe, that student may embrace a secular heresy: that some intelligent force or energy, maybe even a god, rather than Darwinian blind chance, has been responsible for the gazillions of magnificently designed life forms that populate our privileged planet.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist; delusionalnutjobs; evolution; idiocy; ignoranceisstrength; intelligentdesign; whataloadoffeces
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To: MedicalMess

By all means, show us some science that proves evolution.

We CAN however, so you science that proves creation, a young earth, how gravity works in space.

All these probes we send into space come back with dissapointing results for evolutionists, but great news for ID'ers. sucks huh?

61 posted on 01/31/2006 2:11:51 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: AmericaUnited

If you think that's funny, I once had someone here tell me he was 'evolving' because he was born with a genetic defect. (light sensitivity and loose joints were making him turn into a bat)
Moonbat maybe...

62 posted on 01/31/2006 2:14:15 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Bubbatuck
"Unfortunately, there's no real distinction between "theory" and "what's provenly known"."

I not trying to take sides here -- if I were it would be for the ToE. However, a theory is not "provenly known". In fact, the best that can be said about any theory is "not yet disproven". You could say that the ToE is robust; that it has been tested many times, and not disproven; that it has generated many testable hypothesis -- but, you can't say it has been proven. This is a fundamental principal of the scientific method.

Even if "theory" did mean what you said, labeling something a theory wouldn't mean that it was proven. That would be a tautological argument, a type of logical fallacy.

"A theory is about the highest level an idea can achieve."

Actually, a law is considered stronger than a theory. Again -- this is just a simple fact. Just as calling the ToE a "theory" doesn't prove it -- not calling it the "Law of Evolution" doesn't make it any less true.

"The Theory of Gravity is pretty well-established."

Really! Check this out:
63 posted on 01/31/2006 2:35:27 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos
God is everything?

So what is that? God made himself? Do you people have any idea how psychotic you sound?

You are primitive barbarians who do nothing but thwart the rest of us who are trying to do some good.

I'll give you a real life intelligence test. In my hand I hold the cures for autoimmune diseases. They are caused by a stealth pathogen called Clostridium difficile. I have forty autoimmune disorders unraveled and over 1,000 papers supporting this technology.

Jesus Christ was very likey treating this pathogen with the twelve compounds he had. I've got maybe 8 of them pegged.

Now if you are sick what are you going to do? Are you going to accept that there is a hole in the immune system created by the choices we made which caused gram-positive bacteria to take off and grow. Or, do you want to pray to Jesus?

I have the formula. You can have it for a price. Or, you can go pray to Jesus and pay the church. Where do you want to put your money? Prey to God Jesus for support, or buy Jesus' formula he used to make himself appear like a God?

If you have peripheral neuropathy I give you a choice... pray to God or I can give you the use of your arms and legs back by treating the infection.

Got diabetes? Pray to God for help or go after the pathogen that alters Rho G proteins that are the signaling cascade for insulin production, skin growth, stomach healing, endocrine functions. Pray to God or pay me.

Want to collapse Antiphospholipid/Cardiolipid antibody syndrome or Systemic Lupus Erythematosus? Pray to God or pay me. I have numerous studies backing me. Got any backing your God?

Want to fix failing kidneys due to diabetes? Pray to God or pay me. I've done it, God hasn't.

To those of us that are scientists you are murders! Your beliefs kill people. Your lies delay people from seeking proper help.

Creationism is voodoo wack-job insanity. And, people that prescribe to it are mentally compromised.

Got kids with Autism or ADHD? We have the treatment and it doesn't involve psycho-active drugs. It's Jesus' formula he used to stop rage and madness. It involves stopping the drain of tryptophan and dopamine from the body caused by stealth infection. What we can't stop with the right food we can fix with antibiotics. Now do you want your kids to pray for help from Jesus who's dead? Or, would you pay me? I'm alive and have Jesus formula because I put in the research and science to find it? It's only your kids' life. Will praying fix your kid. Probably not, but our formula will.

Got fibromyalgia? Clostridium, Candida, Lyme, Microplasm, Ureaplasma and Chlamydia are your causes. Pray to God or let me fix them. Your choice! We got a 95% success rate! What does your God rate? Got any studies backing the cure for fibromyaglia with payer?

65 posted on 01/31/2006 2:57:38 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: MedicalMess

Quick definition please -- gram-positive bacteria

66 posted on 01/31/2006 3:00:46 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Ichneumon
"We've got better things to do than correct your lies."

Apparently not. You're on every one of these threads telling people who believe God is the creator how ignorant they are. Do you ever post to any other subjects? Or are you just on stand-by to jump into these evo/crevo debates?
67 posted on 01/31/2006 3:20:24 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Ichneumon
He said no such thing, but he did say something quite reasonable that someone with brain-damage might have been able to mistake for something that incredibly stupid.

Here comes the name-calling. (As opposed to making rational arguments)

68 posted on 01/31/2006 3:26:58 AM PST by ThomasNast (2350)
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To: MedicalMess
Want to fix failing kidneys due to diabetes? Pray to God or pay me. I've done it, God hasn't.

I don't doubt you want to help spare people of their pain and suffering. And you're probably good at it. But what about their soul? Prayer has more purpose than the stuff you can offer.

69 posted on 01/31/2006 3:35:32 AM PST by ThomasNast (2350)
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To: Ichneumon
Do you guys have *any* material which isn't based on a) misrepresentation, or b) falsehoods due to ignorance of the material?

No. Creationists have forgotten that little commandment about bearing false witness.

70 posted on 01/31/2006 3:50:14 AM PST by rockprof
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To: rockprof

Creationists have found their belief system in conflict with educational system and this has carried over into a larger debate. Unfortunately, it's a debate they can't win.

71 posted on 01/31/2006 3:53:38 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: PatrickHenry

FYI Ping (archived).

72 posted on 01/31/2006 3:57:01 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: durasell
Gram-positive bacteria are one of four types of bacteria. Gram-positive anaerobic, Gram-positive aerobic, gram-negative anaerobic, Gram-negative aerobic. It denotes a slide fixing staining process. Gram-positive bacteria evolved (there's that evil word) with a common toxin design. The toxins from these bacteria have a repetitive sequence of 30 oligosaccharide molecules/genes that bind to intercellular glycoprotein transmitter substances. These toxins are both destructive to carbohydrates and proteins effectively collapsing the immune system. It is how they stealth the bodys' immune system. This is why diabetics and other autoimmune compromised individuals are always getting sick with secondary infections.

If you block the cellular damaging activation sites on these toxins with a compound that adheres to the area on the toxin that does the damage, then you disable the bacteria from stealthing the immune system. The immune system can then recognize the bacteria and begin to clear it.

If you can follow the following documents then you should totally freak! Look for the line that starts with the word, "However,".

Mastoparan-Induced Insulin Secretion from Insulin-Secreting ßTC3 and INS-1 Cells: Evidence for Its Regulation by Rho Subfamily of G Proteins Rajesh H. Amin, Hai-Qing Chen, Rajakrishnan Veluthakal, Robert B. Silver, Jingsong Li, GuoDong Li and Anjaneyulu Kowluru

Departments of Pharmaceutical Sciences (R.H.A., H.-Q.C., R.V., A.K.) and Pharmacology (R.B.S.), Physiology, Radiology, and Biomedical Engineering, Wayne State University, and ß Cell Biochemistry Research Laboratory (R.H.A., H.-Q.C., A.K.), John D. Dingell Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Detroit, Michigan 48201; and John D. Dingell Veterans Affairs Medical Center and Argonne National Laboratory (R.B.S.), and Cardiovascular Research Institute (J.L., G.L.), National University Medical Institutes, National University of Singapore, Singapore 117597

Address all correspondence and requests for reprints to: Anjan Kowluru, Ph.D., Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, College of Pharmacy and Health Professions, Wayne State University, 259 Mack Avenue, Detroit, Michigan 48201. E-mail:

Mastoparan, a tetradecapeptide from wasp venom, stimulates insulin secretion from the islet ß-cells, presumably via activation of trimeric G proteins. Herein, we used Clostridial toxins, which selectively modify and inactivate the Rho subfamily of G proteins, to examine whether mastoparan-induced insulin secretion also involves activation of these signaling proteins. Mastoparan, but not mastoparan 17 (an inactive analog of mastoparan), significantly stimulated insulin secretion from ßTC3 and INS-1 cells. Preincubation of ßTC3 cells with either Clostridium difficille toxin B, which inactivates Rho, Cdc42, and Rac, or Clostridium sordellii toxin, which inactivates Ras, Rap, and Rac, markedly attenuated the mastoparan-induced insulin secretion, implicating Rac in this phenomenon. Mastoparan-stimulated insulin secretion was resistant to GGTI-2147, a specific inhibitor of geranylgeranylation of Rho G proteins (e.g. Rac), suggesting that mastoparan induces direct activation of Rac via GTP/GDP exchange. This was confirmed by a pull-down assay that quantifies the binding of activated (i.e. GTP-bound) Rac to p21-activated kinase. However, glucose-induced insulin secretion from these cells was abolished by toxin B or GGTI-2147, suggesting that the geranylgeranylation step is critical for glucose-stimulated secretion. Mastoparan significantly increased the translocation of cytosolic Rac and Cdc42 to the membrane fraction. Confocal light microscopy revealed a substantial degree of colocalization of Rac (and, to a lesser degree, Cdc42) with insulin in ß-cells exposed to mastoparan. Further, stable expression of a dominant negative (N17Rac) form of Rac into INS-1 cells resulted in a significant reduction in mastoparan-stimulated insulin secretion from these cells. Taken together, our findings implicate Rho G proteins, specifically Rac, in mastoparan-induced insulin release.

U.S. Class 424/78.04
Patent Number 5948402
Issue Date 1999 09 07
Assignee Genetics Institute, Inc. Inventor(s) Keith, James Schendel, Paul Title
Method of using IL-11 for treating antibiotic induced diarrhea
Abstract Provided by the present invention are methods of treating a variety of disorders including AIDS, arthritis (rheumatoid arthritis, osteoarthritis, spondyloarthropathies), antibiotic induced diarrheal diseases (Clostridium difficile), multiple sclerosis, osteoporosis, gingivitis, peptic ulcer disease, esophagitis, diabetes, retinitis, uveitis, reperfusion injury after myocardial infarction (MI) or cerebral vascular accident (CVA), aphthous ulcers (oral), atherosclerosis (plaque rupture), prevention of tumor metastases, asthma, preeclampsia, and allergic disorders such as rhinitis, conjunctivitis, and urticaria.
Exmp. Claim 1
Ex Claim text A method of treating an antibiotic induced diarrheal disease, comprising administering a pharmaceutically effective amount of IL-11.

P.S.: Those of us who are God really don't appreciate the rest of you telling us how you think things happened.

Moses was explaining how man changed from being a hunter/gather to farmer. This touched off: 1) an arms race to gain slaves to cultivate food, and, 2) a hole in the immune system because several crucial food resources were dropped from the diet. The murder of Able by Caine is an illustration of the rage Caine was suffering from infectious disease. It is what Jesus was after. There are only two places in the Bible where the Tree-of-Life is mentioned: in the Alpha and in the Omega. Moses knew the formula and kept it to his inner circle. They had over 1,000 years experience comparing slaves brought in from the wild and those raised on agriculture. Jesus broke the rules and starting playing God undermining the authority of the Rabbis who were in bed with the Romans. The Alpha is the loss of the complex carbohydrate food source. The Omega is the rediscovery. Everything in between are the explanations of the new morality based on a disease infected society involved in trade and continual warfare.

That is what the Bible is really about... agriculture based technology and disease control.

All things changed when man chose his own food instead of gathering whatever was available. It is our curse.
73 posted on 01/31/2006 4:02:16 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: fizziwig
Too bad Colin Patterson was not able to post his question on FR he would have recieved several pages of sarcastic responses full of insults and vitrolic condemnation.

And evidence from folks, who unlike the author, actually appear to have some knowledge of what they talk about.

74 posted on 01/31/2006 4:07:01 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: ThomasNast
Please... there is no soul. You only exist in the minds of others when you are gone. What you are is what you are remembered for. If that is not enough for you then I feel sorry for you... You are always chasing phantoms.

"What we do in life ripples in eternity", Maximus in Gladiator
75 posted on 01/31/2006 4:08:15 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: Sweetjustusnow
The two scariest words in the English language made redundant
76 posted on 01/31/2006 4:10:18 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: MedicalMess

That's for the bacteria explanation. Pretty cool stuff.

Also, I strongly suspect that you are not God. But hey, I could be wrong.

The bible is about a lot more than health and disease control. Yes, it was probably a bad idea to eat shellfish in ancient times unless you were a short walk from the ocean. However, other elements, such as basic rules for civilized society are also touched upon along with a fairly outstanding belief system.

77 posted on 01/31/2006 4:20:04 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: mc6809e
Anyone that believes the theory of evolution claims that man came from apes doesn't know the theory enough to criticize it. You're obviously ignorant.

The theory claims that man and the apes evolved from a common ancestor.

As someone who accepts evolution and has studied it more than most people, I say you're wrong. Man evolved from ape.

I say this because humans and chimps shared a common ancestor more recently than their common ancestor with gorillas, which in turn comes after their common ancestor with orangutans. So if you say that man did not evolve from ape, you must say that the human-chimp common ancestor was not an ape.

But then you have to explain how orangutans and gorillas--which by that time were separate species--achieved ape-hood independently of the chimps at some later time. In that case, the term "ape" loses all taxonomic meaning, as it's not an inherited distinction. Therefore, I say that the last human ancestor was definitely an ape, thus man evolved from ape.

On second, thought, though, perhaps it is inaccurate to say that "man evolved from ape", because by my same logic, man still is an ape. Perhaps we should instead say that "man evolved to ape!"

78 posted on 01/31/2006 4:32:58 AM PST by Physicist
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XenuDidit placemark

80 posted on 01/31/2006 5:09:04 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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