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Gunmaker scaling back
Ledger-Enquirer (Columbus, GA) ^ | 1/30/06 | TONY ADAMS

Posted on 01/31/2006 12:39:01 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: yarddog
Good afternoon.
"I had an HK SL6 which was in .223."

That's the one. I'm sorry never got to handle one. I'm glad to hear that it was accurate. Was it reliable and is it still marketed?

Michael Frazier
41 posted on 01/31/2006 3:14:04 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville
I haven't seen one in some time so I would guess it is no longer being made.

Yes, it was totally reliable, never had the sense it would ever jam.

42 posted on 01/31/2006 3:16:37 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Dead Corpse

I just think it's hard for German companies to adjust to all the different rules in the USA. The fact that it's 50 states and the gun laws are different in each of them. For a while it was pretty easy to buy select fire versions of the MP-9 and stuff. Then it became impossible. The AWB scared a lot of vendors. The Cali AWB did too, as it's the biggest single state.

I like the HK's USP pistols too. But then I like Smith&Wssons and Kimbers and Rugers and Berettas and SIGs and CZ's too. Most of those companies don't make much true military hardward (ie: full auto stuff) so don't even have to think about it.

HK is privately held. This does allow them more independence than public companies. They never signed a consent decree that I am aware of, and haven't put lots of retrofitted parts that Chuckie and Hillary want on all their guns, unlike some of the companies listed above.

Like the man said: "youse pays your money and takes youse choice"


43 posted on 01/31/2006 3:16:41 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: mwyounce
Consider yourself thanked J

Considering the price I bought it (77 cents) I haven't been too concerned with the ups and downs of it.
If it ever dropped below $1.00 I might sell.

44 posted on 01/31/2006 3:22:03 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: kiriath_jearim
The Barrett 6.8 Rem SPC cartridge has been in military evaluation for some time


45 posted on 01/31/2006 4:22:48 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Where is the SCAR being built?


46 posted on 01/31/2006 5:38:19 PM PST by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses, rifles for sister sarah)
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To: Lancer_N3502A
MP5 is also available - to LE/Military - in 10mm Auto.

That, and the UMP .45, are the ultimate SMGs.

47 posted on 01/31/2006 5:42:20 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

Thanks for torturing a fellow with some raunchy gun porn! ;>))


48 posted on 01/31/2006 6:34:43 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Joe Brower
Or how about a civilian version of the XM8,

They do offer a semi-auto version of the G36, which the XM8 is more or less based on.

G-36.

SL-8 semi-auto.

That's with a nuetered magazine design, because BATF ruled, under the Impeached One, that guns able to accept a >10 round magazine could not be imported, even if no such magazine had ever been imported. So H&K had to change the design a little so it could not accept the G-36 magazine. Hopefully they are now able to import the version that can.

49 posted on 01/31/2006 9:25:29 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Too bad Bill Clinton exported THOUSANDS of M-14's to our "allies", and these rifles can never be reimported for civilian use.

They couldn't anyway under the "once a machine gun, always a machine gun" policy of the BATFE, even that's nowhere in the law, just the regs. Parts could be though.

Worse though is that Clinton sent many M-14s, parts and all, to Captain Krunch, which crushed them. They are likely rebar or chicken wire now.

50 posted on 01/31/2006 9:31:28 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: heckler

SCAR Light and Heavy (5.56mm and 7.62mm versions) are being built at the FN Plant in South Carolina, IIRC.

FN has made comments about possible civilian sales.
Givent that they've released the PS90 (as promised) and plant to release the FN2000 later this year, I think we can thake them at their word.


51 posted on 02/01/2006 5:09:54 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: El Gato

Parts is exactly what we wanted.
Newer milled receivers like the LRW are on par with the older TRW receivers and the parts kits the DCM could have released would have been a tremendous benefit to all competitive shooters.

During my reserve days, back in 1994 or so, I escorted about fifty VERY GOOD condition M1911A1s to the steam chopper when we received our M9/92FS Berettas. Many of those Colts looked like they had never been fired.


52 posted on 02/01/2006 5:12:30 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Joe Brower

HK turned it's back on the civilian market here in the US. They refuse to service any civilian owned full auto and that has hurt them.

HK could become the premier gun company here in the US but that won't happen until management changes and they remember that the civilian market is where they had their big break through in the US.

Mike


53 posted on 02/01/2006 5:15:51 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: samadams2000; Rummyfan; Centurion2000
SWB

Somehow I can't picture Clint Eastwood saying "Meet my three friends, Smith, Wesson and Bob."

54 posted on 02/01/2006 5:16:18 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: kiriath_jearim

Maybe it's time for H & K to stop treating the civilian market like something it scraped off its shoe. I love my USP, but H & K has consistently treated the civilian market with Teutonic disdain.


55 posted on 02/01/2006 5:22:16 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Lancer_N3502A
I've had the opportunity to shoot the UMP .45 ACP submachine gun and the MP-5 9 millimeter parabellum.

I liked the UMP .45 ACP more, but it had more recoil when fired. 230 grain rounds versus 135 grain rounds.


UMP .45 ACP Submachine Gun

56 posted on 05/01/2006 1:02:01 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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