[PatrickHenry]

Interesting that this is from a newspaper in Seattle, the Discovery Institute's home town.

[PatrickHenry]

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[VadeRetro]

With such a roster, very little of the center's research into the weaknesses of Darwinism has been of the experimental, lab-oriented, peer-reviewed kind.

With a thesis of "We'll never understand this except by punting to God on first down," it's hard to see how anyone would ever generate any research.

[shuckmaster]

"A Seattle think tank"

That pretty much says all you need to know about the Discovery Institute.

[ml1954]

I take this as evidence that liars usually don't prosper.

May DI RIP.

[Doctor Stochastic]

... some of the funds earmarked for transport issues have been applied to other areas of Discovery's operations, including a substantial portion of Chapman's $120,000-a-year salary.

...Discovery Institute President Chapman had counseled a breakaway faction of Episcopalians opposed to the ordination of gays on how to fund their desired schism from the mainline denomination.

At least it's not about the money.

[aposiopetic]

How does intelligent design differ in any significant way from earlier attempts to avoid conflict with the Second Amendment prohibition of state-supported or countenanced religion?

How does

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

prohibit "state-countenanced religion?"

[Chiapet]

Great article. Thanks for the ping.

[aculeus]

BTTT

[jim_trent]

What is it about this document that caused the defendants in the Dover case to lie on the stand? Sounds like the work of the devil, not God.

[unlearner]

"The center's first and so far only director was Meyer, who retains his day job in the Department of Theology, Philosophy, and Chaplain Services at Whitworth College in Spokane, a 115-year-old private liberal-arts college whose mission is 'to provide its diverse student body an education of the mind and heart, equipping its graduates to honor God, follow Christ, and serve humanity.' To this end, the mission statement continues, 'Whitworth's community of teacher-scholars is committed to rigorous and open intellectual inquiry and to the integration of Christian faith and learning.' (The Whitworth connection is not mentioned on the center's Web site, where Meyer is described as holding a Ph.D. in the history of philosophy and science from Cambridge University in England.)"

How ominous! /s Pretty much any university founded more than a hundred years ago had a similar mission. That goes for Harvard, Yale, Princeton, as well as Oxford and Cambridge University in England (which the above statement seems to note as an obviously secular institution). But Cambridge was centrally religious to begin with - all its education centered around religious duty.

Christians start great institutions and liberals hijack them. Same goes for this great nation.

"The evidence, said the judge, should persuade a reasonable person that the purpose of intelligent design is to slip God into the classroom through the transparent device of refusing to mention his name."

Oh, but God is allowed in the classroom - contrary to the revisionist interpretation of the Constitution. He does not need to be slipped in, since He is entitled to march through the front door, publicly. If it is impossible for the free exercise of religion to be carried out in public schools, then public schools are unconstitutional. Public education was begun by people whose goal was educating youths about the Bible and the Judeo-Christian God. These included some of the founders of our nation. They fully understood the meaning of the first amendment, and saw Christian education within public education as harmonious and lawful.

It is unconstitutional to interfere with the free exercise of religion. Those who brought this suit were motivated by a desire to use the government to engage in unconstitutional religious censorship. And the judge ruled in favor of censoring religious expression. According to him, it is enough that a person is religiously motivated to censure their opinions. They do not even need to mention God, let alone actually impose a sectarian religious practice or doctrine.

I want to know which specific religion is established by teaching ID. What are its theological tenets? What is its statement of faith? Who practices this religion? How do they practice it? Who is not part of it due to non acceptance of its essential religious doctrines?

The Bill of Rights "countenances" religions in general (the supposed crime asserted by this author). The prohibition is of establishing a specific state religion.

[hawkaw]

Thanks for the excellent article!

[steve-b]

In 1998, members of a Seattle nonprofit think tank drafted a secret five-year plan with an ambitious goal: to "defeat scientific materialism" and "replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God."

Writing down a naked admission that you're slapping Groucho glasses on religious doctrine in order to pass it off as a scientific alternative wasn't a very intelligent design on their part.

[Coyoteman]

Good article ===> Placemarker <===

[aruanan]

In 1998, members of a Seattle nonprofit think tank drafted a secret five-year plan with an ambitious goal: to "defeat scientific materialism" and "replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God."

I guess it's irrelevant that the same situation existed back in the pre-Darwin days, but with the players reversed. Darwin was the Rosa Parks of the movement back then to eliminate the idea of theism with respect to origins of nature. Many then disagreed with Darwin but saw him as a good rachet mechanism in getting them farther toward the goal. Of course, many of those claiming orthodoxy now are simply unaware of their own origins, lost, as it were, in the mists of history.

[Right Wing Professor]

Great article.

[Junior]

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[microgood]

Anything written by the Seattle Weekly is total and complete garbage. I would think FR would ban postings from the Seattle Weekly, just like from the DU (same thing, probably the same authors).

[RobRoy]

Yes, I saw the headline when I was walking by the paper box coming back from Nordstrom.

And Seattle is Discovery institutes home town like Sodom was Lotts home town. The article did not surprise me in the least.

[Aquinasfan]

Philip Johnson laid out his "Wedge Strategy" in "Darwin on Trial," which was published many years before the Discovery Institute developed their "top secret" plan.

As a student of history, Johnson knows that intellectual paradigm shifts begin in the academy, disperse through the schools, and ultimately become conventional wisdom 30 or 40 years later. So far, things are proceeding on pace.

[connectthedots]

Seattle Weekly is a liberal alternative newspaper. What would you expect? It's also the home of Jim McDermott, who wins re-elections by landslides.