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NZ Shark Taggers Issue Fresh Warning - "Taranaki Terror" 19ft Great White Shark
New Zealand News ^ | 02 February 2006 | By MICHELLE SUTTON

Posted on 02/01/2006 8:58:09 PM PST by Mongeaux

Scientists issued a fresh warning about a great white shark seen cruising Taranaki's coast line last night after attempts to tag it with a satellite tracker failed.

Marine scientist Clinton Duffy and former New Plymouth marine biologist Demian Chapman attempted to tag the terror of the deep with pop-off satellite tags to monitor its movements.

However, during the mission Mr Duffy did see a great white at least 4m long dive out of the water near Seal Rock, off Port Taranaki.

It is the latest of several sightings in the past month, of the shark dubbed the Taranaki Terror.

"We stopped for the sunset and as we were watching I saw a huge white shark almost breach, it almost jumped completely clear of the water off Seal Rock," Mr Duffy said.

(Excerpt) Read more at stuff.co.nz ...


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KEYWORDS: greatwhite; kiwis; needbiggerboat; newzealand; nz; shark
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This is possibly the fifth sighting this year of that particular fish.

1 posted on 02/01/2006 8:58:10 PM PST by Mongeaux
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To: Mongeaux

4...3...2...1....

we need a bigger boat

yahoo !!!! first one to post it


2 posted on 02/01/2006 8:59:18 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Mongeaux

Teddy Kennedy picture alert!


3 posted on 02/01/2006 9:03:58 PM PST by neodad (Rock Chock Seahawks)
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To: Flavius

LOL! CONGRATS! I like to see people enjoying my shark posts...


4 posted on 02/01/2006 9:04:01 PM PST by Mongeaux (You are a wise man and I agree with you completely. This was a cage diving operation, was the water)
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To: Flavius

"Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad fish. Not like going down to the pond and chasing bluegills and tommycocks. This shark, swallow you whole. No shakin', no tenderizin', down you go."

5 posted on 02/01/2006 9:10:35 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mongeaux
"He said the warning was not intended to scare people."

Hey mate, just thought I might mention you're swimming with a 19' Great White Shark but don't worry about it. Sheesh! Those people down there must really be laid back.
6 posted on 02/01/2006 9:12:39 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: Mongeaux
My kayak looks kinda small after this post.
7 posted on 02/01/2006 9:12:54 PM PST by Fielding (Sans Dieu Rien)
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To: Mongeaux

I still don't know why God made sharks ... or grizzly bears.


8 posted on 02/01/2006 9:13:26 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

Predators play a vital role in the ecosystem, I'm afraid.

Great White Sharks are about the most awesome and complex creatures alive on Earth. However, I would advice keeping distance.


9 posted on 02/01/2006 9:15:52 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Mr. Mojo

thats when spielberg was making movies

what the h happend to that guy,


10 posted on 02/01/2006 9:16:01 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: neodad

That's a shark, not a beached whale.


11 posted on 02/01/2006 9:16:57 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Flavius

died 1978


12 posted on 02/01/2006 9:18:10 PM PST by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: pcottraux

I'm sure they do -- I just can't cultivate an appreciation for anything which might not consider that I should be at the top of the food chain, and not somewhere in the middle :-/ LOL


13 posted on 02/01/2006 9:19:39 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: Mongeaux

"This was no BOATING ACCIDENT!"


14 posted on 02/01/2006 9:20:19 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Flavius

Indiana Jones 4 is his next project.


15 posted on 02/01/2006 9:22:13 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

"I still don't know why God made sharks ... or grizzly bears."



Don't have any sharks in Montana, but the Griz we do have generally:

1) Eat

2) Sleep

3) Make little griz

4) Scare the crap out of a bunch of tourists who don't know any better than disturb them while they are occupied with the first three items on my list.

5) As a special treat, dine on slow tourists.


16 posted on 02/01/2006 9:23:24 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

I can cultivate an appreciation for it. Appreciate in the sense that, "Wow, that creature is amazing, I'm going to stay FAR, FAR away from it!"

Appreciation = respect.


17 posted on 02/01/2006 9:23:48 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
Scare the crap out of a bunch of tourists who don't know any better than disturb them while they are occupied with the first three items on my list.

That statement there, my friend, explains almost EVERY animal attack against humans. They don't consider us part of the food chain...as long as we don't bother them.
18 posted on 02/01/2006 9:25:37 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Mongeaux

The only thing a shark is afraid of is a bigger shark


19 posted on 02/01/2006 9:39:19 PM PST by skimask (The United States Marine Corps is, quite frankly, the finest fighting force on God's earth.)
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To: Mongeaux

<< NZ Shark Taggers Issue Fresh Warning - "Taranaki Terror" 19ft Great White Shark >>

Shoot the bastard.

[Where's a Japanese whaler when you want one?]


20 posted on 02/01/2006 9:40:44 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Mongeaux


Makes me want to go fishing. :)


21 posted on 02/01/2006 9:44:50 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: skimask

...or a killer whale.


22 posted on 02/01/2006 9:45:13 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Brian Allen

Why? The shark has not harmed or threatened anyone from what I'm reading here. A warning has been issued to people not to swim or surf around where it has been sighted.

And whalers kill whales, not sharks.


23 posted on 02/01/2006 9:51:20 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
I still don't know why God made sharks ... or grizzly bears.

Personally I find tapeworms and lice more disturbing. Smallpox is even more so. Really makes you question his intent.

24 posted on 02/01/2006 9:51:50 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: elmer fudd
Really makes you question his intent.

Not me. I never question God. I believe that things like that are the result of mankind's disobedience and yielding to THE DEVIL (why don't people ever blame the devil for bad things?).
25 posted on 02/01/2006 9:59:50 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

Yep, Orcas are at the top of the food chain. ....and incredibly intelligent, as well.


26 posted on 02/01/2006 10:07:33 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

or mosquitoes


27 posted on 02/01/2006 10:10:15 PM PST by Dustbunny (May God be gracious to us and Bless us and make his face shine upon us Ps67:1 Selah)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Real phony-looking ones can even take out Richard Harris.


28 posted on 02/01/2006 10:15:43 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

Bears are the source of bear skin rugs. ;-)

And they also are the source of roast bear, stewed bear, etc. The claws make interesting jewelery, and the Chinese pay unbelievable prices for certain body parts. And let's not forget bear paw dishes which the Chinese like.

Let's hear it for Bear Season! ! !

One last thing. Bear have some of the most interesting metabolic mechanisms of any land animal.


29 posted on 02/01/2006 10:31:20 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Well, I don't have to run very fast, just faster than you.


30 posted on 02/01/2006 10:32:15 PM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Praise be to the LORD, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle.)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

"I'm sure they do -- I just can't cultivate an appreciation for anything which might not consider that I should be at the top of the food chain, and not somewhere in the middle :-/ LOL"

Should has nothing to do with it. But gunpowdeer does. Ask any wolf, bear, panther, etc. - unless they have been granted "endangered" status under the Endangered Species Act. If granted "endangered" status, they soon start attacking and eating people.

Ask Timothy Treadwell.

Oops, he became bear scat. Oh well. 'Twas a natural death, albeit a prolonged and agonizing one.


31 posted on 02/01/2006 10:35:42 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: pcottraux

"Great White Sharks are about the most awesome and complex creatures alive on Earth"

Awesome I can agree with, but not really very complex.


32 posted on 02/01/2006 10:37:18 PM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: pcottraux

They don't consider us part of the food chain...as long as we don't bother them.

Are you arare your above mentioned thought contains a good deal of what Professor Lindzenden called "overt unreality"?


33 posted on 02/01/2006 10:38:11 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: MPJackal

You are wrong. Sharks are among the most complex animals alive on Earth.


34 posted on 02/01/2006 10:38:51 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
To eat Birkenstock wearing, granola bar crunching, Volvo driving, three hugging, bunny loving ex-heroin junkies turned "Bear Whispers.""
35 posted on 02/01/2006 10:41:31 PM PST by Leisler ("For English, please press two.")
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To: pcottraux
Not true. Not on a physiological basis or on a behavioral basis. Don't get me wrong, I find sharks interesting, but there are many far more complex animals on earth. And your comment was they are THE MOST COMPLEX CREATURES ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
36 posted on 02/01/2006 10:43:56 PM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: GladesGuru

No animal has human beings on its diet. The only animal on Earth known to actually hunt humans is the polar bear, though where it lives, humans aren't exactly plentiful anyway.

The Great White Shark's primary food source are seals and sea lions. There's a reason for that; as sharks, they have to move constantly in the water. They can never stop or they will sink or die. Therefore, they have to eat constantly to provide the energy to keep moving. They need food that is high in fat. Humans are not a good source of energy because compared to most animals, we are very lean and low-fat. Seals and sea lions, on the other hand, are very high-fat and good energy sources.

Most shark attacks on humans are simple cases of mistaken identity. The shark looks at a surf-board from below and thinks its a seal. Usually, after the shark bites once, it loses interest (though one bite from such an animal can be fatal).


37 posted on 02/01/2006 10:46:37 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Mongeaux

38 posted on 02/01/2006 10:47:36 PM PST by seastay
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To: MPJackal

I said "among" the most, not "the" most. I'm talking about sharks from a biological standpoint, not behavioral or psychological. In all of nature, their design ranks high among the most complex. They are highly advanced predators.


39 posted on 02/01/2006 10:48:17 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

<< Why? The shark has not harmed or threatened anyone ... >>

Sharks don't "harm" or "threaten," those are human characteristics.

I had in mind that it be eaten. Lot of shark'n'taties in 19 feet of noah's arc.

Or cut up for bait.

Why?

'Cause we can.

We Humans, not sharks, are atop the food chain.


40 posted on 02/01/2006 10:50:41 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Leisler

Ahh, Timothy Treadwell. Now there's a story.

Treadwell was a liberal in the classical sense. He was a man who viewed himself as a hero, a martyr, and a noble protector of the bears. He thought the bears were his friends. He tried to put cute human faces on the bears (that's really what most overly-sentimental "animal rights activists" do).

And he paid the price.


41 posted on 02/01/2006 10:51:37 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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"their design ranks high among the most complex. They are highly advanced predators."

They are efficient, but not complex. In fact the opposite could be said. They are so efficient because they are so simple. But since you disagree with me, what is so complex about their design which has gone virtually unchanged for millions of years?


42 posted on 02/01/2006 10:54:03 PM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Brian Allen
We Humans, not sharks, are atop the food chain.

I'm looking at "harm" and "threaten" from the viewpoint of the humans. The shark hasn't made any humans feel threatened by being near them (that we know of).

I don't know if you've ever had it, but shark meat is not very good.

'Cause we can

Great White Sharks are an endangered species. We need to keep as many alive as possible, because we depend upon their existence more than we realize.

The food chain is not in question here. Sharks don't eat humans. In the movies, they do, but not in reality. There's no reason to kill this shark.

BTW, why this shark in particular? It's 19 feet long. It's big, but that doesn't make it more dangerous. In fact, I would think a shark that size would be LESS dangerous than a Makko Shark (which would be smaller, lighter, and a LOT faster).
43 posted on 02/01/2006 10:58:36 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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"and incredibly intelligent, as well."

Yes, indeed. Note the wonderful works of art they have created, the advanced civilization they have produced, their well known gentleness, and their outstanding table manners.


44 posted on 02/01/2006 11:00:14 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru
I didn't compare them to mankind. .....obviously.

their well known gentleness

Actually, there hasn't been one confirmed Orca attack on a human being in recorded history. ....pretty amazing, considering their spot at the top of the ocean food chain and their innumerable contacts with humans in their element.

45 posted on 02/01/2006 11:07:13 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: pcottraux

Sorry, but many animals have man on their diets. From man eating cats to sled dogs that are not tied up and eat a child or elderly person, predators look at the world in terms of caloric value.

Perhaps what you mean is that animals don't make man a regular part of their diet.


46 posted on 02/01/2006 11:07:35 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: MPJackal

I'm talking about their biology, not their behavior.

Sharks are one of the most advanced predators in the world. They have highly advanced sensory organs, especially in their noses and eyes. Their olfactory senses are more developed than most animals on Earth. So is their eyesight.

They also have something few other animals have: advanced systems of electroreception running throughout their bodies, especially on the sides and front. They have a system called the "Ampullae of Lorenzini", which is used not only for sensing movement in the water, but also for determining their global position and direction (they have a biological compass that is also among the world's most advanced).

Biologically, they are a marvel. Behavior-wise, they are simple. They swim, and eat, and do what all animals do: keep themselves alive and ensure the survival of their species. But because of the nature of where and how they live, they have had to be more advanced than most living animals JUST TO SURVIVE. The fact that they have been virtually unchanged for millions of years is a testament to how complex they ARE.

There are other animals with these characteristics, but with sharks, it's even MORE advanced than in the other creatures.


47 posted on 02/01/2006 11:09:40 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: GladesGuru
Perhaps what you mean is that animals don't make man a regular part of their diet.

Yes, that's what I meant. I didn't mean that NO animal has EVER eaten a human. But we are not a regular part of their diet for a number of reasons. One is that simply put, we don't taste very good. We're not a good source of protein. If they look at the world from a caloric standpoint, then we are going to be towards the bottom of their menus.

...sled dogs that are not tied up and eat a child or elderly person...

EAT them???? Attack, maybe...I find that hard to swallow, if you'll pardon the pun. Has that ever actually happened?

ANimals also attack for territorial reasons, not just caloric ones.
48 posted on 02/01/2006 11:14:06 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

"We need to keep as many alive as possible, because we depend upon their existence more than we realize."

No, we don't. It seems you have accepted the enviro-socialist premise that all life is connected (Gaia hypothesis), that the earth is alive.

Consider that we killed nearly all of the largest organisms ever to live on earth - the Blue Whale. Removing that top carnivore in the Antarctic Sea did nothing except make a lot of krill very happy.

The food chain stayed as it was (minus Blue Whales) and when they came back, little or nothing changed.

But there were unhappy krill. ;-(

The interdependence bit is simply not the major factor the enviro's want us stupid, taxpayers to believe


49 posted on 02/01/2006 11:16:55 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: pcottraux

"We need to keep as many alive as possible, because we depend upon their existence more than we realize."

No, we don't. It seems you have accepted the enviro-socialist premise that all life is connected (Gaia hypothesis), that the earth is alive.

Consider that we killed nearly all of the largest organisms ever to live on earth - the Blue Whale. Removing that top carnivore in the Antarctic Sea did nothing except make a lot of krill very happy.

The food chain stayed as it was (minus Blue Whales) and when they came back, little or nothing changed.

But there were unhappy krill. ;-(

The interdependence bit is simply not the major factor the enviro's want us stupid, taxpayers to believe


50 posted on 02/01/2006 11:17:58 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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