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To: monday

It is very difficult to reconcile democracy with justice for the crime committed by groups in the past. You can't argue away this contradiction; if people have the right to vote, they have the right to vote for groups that in the past committed terrible acts. It's especially difficult when the current groups do NOT intend to commit mass murder, but are guilty only of softpedaling past crimes and wanting to enact policies that fall far short of what their predecessors did.

If you ban a party that calls itself Communist, its members will regroup and call themselves Democratic Socialists, and present themselves to the voters. Nazis were banned after World War II, so their followers created Populist Parties or Nationalist Parties which did not say "we're going to kill all the Jews" (since that problem was "solved" anyway) but did put forth nationalist, anti-capitalist, anti-immigrant rhetoric. You can't keep human nature down. It's just not that easy.

Where would you even find trained judges in post-war Germany to try Nazis, when every judge has been a Nazi? A very high percentage of judges, years after the war, had been party members. Being trained in the law in the 1930s and 1940s meant being entwined with the Nazi state. These obstacles are real and enormous.


33 posted on 02/06/2006 7:40:33 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
"You can't argue away this contradiction; if people have the right to vote, they have the right to vote for groups that in the past committed terrible acts. It's especially difficult when the current groups do NOT intend to commit mass murder, but are guilty only of softpedaling past crimes and wanting to enact policies that fall far short of what their predecessors did."

Nazi parties are illegal in most European countries. Europeans therefore have NO RIGHT to vote for Nazi's. The reason for this is that Nazi ideology is incompatible with democracy. That is to say, people could vote the Nazi party into power once, but only once. Democracy would end the moment Nazi's assumed power.

The same is true of Communism. Look at what has happened to Venezuela. Chavez will never allow another election that has not been throughly rigged to allow him to stay in power.

This is the MO of Fascists and Communists the world over and why all Fascist and Communist parties should be outlawed.

Let them call themselves anything they want but if they walk like a duck and talk like a duck, ban them. Use the lessons we have learned about the socialistic tendencies of both Fascism and Communism to repudiate anyone who advocates socialism.

We know for instance that both Hitler and Stalin prohibited the private ownership of guns. They both nationalized important industries, directly in Stalins case, indirectly in Hitlers. Both banned opposition parties, Hitler banned smoking, Stalin banned practically everything.

Incidentally, the government Iraqi's have voted into office will very probably be the first and last Democratically elected government in Iraq. The reason.... Islam is incompatible with Democracy also and the newly elected Iraqi government is throughly Islamic.

Any ideology that allows or encourages one to kill or enslave those with opposing ideologies is incompatible with Democracy.

It's a simple lesson but one society seems slow in learning.
35 posted on 02/06/2006 8:55:34 AM PST by monday
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