It will be done, my lord. The troll will be zotted.
Posted on 02/02/2006 1:54:21 AM PST by Bullitt
I have not bothered to review the precedent on what constitutes "cruel and unusual" punishment, but the argument is fundamentally not "legal" but factual. Either lethal injection violates the Eighth Amendment's prohibition on "cruel and unusual punishment" or not. The only law is contained in those two words, and opinion interpreting them.
I am sure there are endless, factually-based arguments about why lethal injection is cruel and unusual, but I don't think the basic concept passes the laugh test. Sorry.
The people who take these arguments seriously are those who believe that the Constitution is appropriately employed as a substantive limitation (not just procedural due process) on the State's ability to impose capital punishment. Bush has no business appointing judges like that.
You joined few days ago and now you BUMP that Alito is another Souter. Tell me how did you feel with your DUmmie friends over a DUmmyland when Alito was confirmed on Tuesday? You were very depressed weren't you? Now with your delusional mind you think that you can come here and spread lies on FR regarding Alito. This Alito vote has absolutely no meaning in term of how he is going to judge this case. When he just joined the Supreme Court on Tuesday he cannot go ahead and order the execution of man without going in the details of the case. Of course you delusional fools at DU cannot understand this simple fact. Anyway before you get banned and you will be soon, go and tell your DUmmie friends that if you think that Scalia is a conservative that terrify you liberals then you have seen nothing yet regarding Alito.
Actually, sir (or maam), President Bush has all the business appointing Federal Judges, including the Supreme Court. I doubt he is really interested in your views. He is a politician, capable of putting on whatever chameleon-like charade required to further HIS agenda. His power to appoint judges is not shared elsewhere.
Do you play chess. In order to become a winner, you must be able to project yourself into the future. You need to order every bit of brain to help plan your attacks, and your defenses. It is a battle, fought with grey cells, not bullets.
Politics is much like chess. sometimes it pays to give up your queen in order to bring your opponent closer to "mate". Sometimes you give up a bit of your position to get a little edge over your opponents, in politics.
I resent a lot of the things that President Bush has done for, and to our country. On a scale of 10, I give him barely a 5. But, I do not doubt his sincerity, and intent in every move he makes. I do not believe he would place a man or woman onto the Supremes, without good reason. He has a different goal, based on His viewpoint. After all, he IS the one elected President.
Sam Alito is not a liberal. He appears to be a solid, proven Constitutional thinker. John Roberts is not a liberal. I get the impression that he is a genius, and a man dedicated to the law. They have now joined with a group of men and women, who can decide life and death. The Constitution guarantees life... but it doesn't say anything about how we should put people to death.
I grew up in a military household. My Dads last station was Guantanamo Bay. I was there, when the 727's started landing on Leeward Point, and the troops started setting up tents on the golf course. I listened to President Kennedy address the nation, and later boarded the USNS Upshur and left Gitmo, and was deposited with my Mom, Sister, and I, into a warehouse in Norfolk, on a cold day in October, 1962.
Presidents do things we can't really handle sometimes. Some get us into wars. others out of them. Some preside over peacetimes, and help further the goals of our nation onto the world stage.
I don;t pretend to fully understand it, but I accept it. We are built to stand, or reject our leaders, based on our personal philosphies. I do not fully agree with W on many things, and I am now UN-registered with the Pubbies. I am an Independant. But, I do not think Geopge Bush could have chosen a better man than Sam Alito. We will watch, and see...
Anyway I am proponent of the death penalty because I do not think that murderers should live and this may be against Christian believes but we cannot make every judgment base don Christianity. Regarding Alito, he simply told the Senate judiciary committee that he will try his best to hear death penalty cases just to ensure that he is not sending an innocent man to death. Also he has been on the court for few hours only when they throw this case at him so it will be foolish for him to say yep go ahead and kill the man despite I do not know anything about the case. This shows that he is fair and just more than anything else. Rush Limbaugh was very clear on this today and he said that the media is trying to upset and divide the conservatives by doing these distortions about Alito vote. Apparently they succeeded by effecting the few knee jerk reactionary conservatives.
That is not my tagline.
It will be done, my lord. The troll will be zotted.
Revelation 14:14-20.
If they think lethal injection is cruel and unusual, I would like to explain to them the proper way to execute brutal murderers of young girls like those who are appealing. All that's needed is 50 feet of 1/2" rope and a tall oak tree with one sturdy branch. That's how law and order was kept 100 years ago, and it would be kept much better today if executions were carried out within 90 days of sentencing instead of 25 or 30 years later.
And what's with the "cruel and unusual" nonsense anyway? The authors of the 8th Amendment didn't mean that a brutal killer has to be executed by overfeeding him Snicker bars and milkshakes until he has a stroke. They just meant that he can't be burned at the stake the way the Spanish did back then or drawn and quartered the way the English did. I have absolutely no doubt that they considered hanging to be the proper penalty for 1st degree murder.
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