Skip to comments.New Orleans 'risks extinction'
Posted on 02/02/2006 10:08:40 AM PST by ncountylee
In the chaos that followed the worst natural disaster in American history, a forensic investigation has been taking place to find out what went wrong and why.
The BBC's Horizon programme has spoken to the scientists who are now confronting the real possibility that New Orleans may be the first of many cities worldwide to face extinction.
Modern day New Orleans was a city that defied the odds. Built on a mosquito infested swamp squashed between two vast bodies of water in what is essentially a bowl, its very existence seemed proof of the triumph of engineering over nature.
But on the 29 August 2005 New Orleans took a direct hit from Hurricane Katrina and overnight was turned into a Venice from hell.
The delicate flood system in New Orleans, that so many relied on to protect them was actually, year on year, adding to the risk of a catastrophe in the city.
Coastal Geologist Shea Penland from the University of New Orleans knows every inlet, every cove and every stretch of marsh that surrounds New Orleans.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
Mentions BBC TV program:
Horizon: The Lost City of New Orleans
And this is a problem because....
Ummm, it's a city below sea level, that's sinking, in an active hurricane zone. And that's just for starters...
It was a dinosaur anyway. (And run by a brain the size of a walnut.)
another hit today I understand....
NO should be left to rot in peace.
The ignorance of Freepers on Louisiana questions is again on display.
Buggy Whips also risk extinction, as does Atlantis, as does PanAM and TWA Airlines.... and maybe GM.
An individual person has a "right to life"; but eventually dies anyway.
Why should an object, city or company have a "right" not only to "life" but to "eternal life" ?
"I think every city that is built below sea level should probably become extinct."
Given the nature of water, that's going to happen with our without our help, eventually. But, there are cities that have survived centuries in just such a precarious situation. These cities apparently don't have to contend with hurricanes, though.
Please enlighten us I enjoy learning.
New orleans has been around since 1718 folks most of yalls cities are realtive new borns. By the way Cities dont have a right to eternal life will be a great campaign slogan when we try to reelect Republican David Vitter, or Relect Republican JIndal. Oh and this is going to big hit with Republican voters in Jefferson and St Tammny , and St BErnard Parish come the Presidental election time. Keep the helpful slogans coming
The problem in large part is Coastal erosion which can be fixed. Also there are plans to develop areas that are flood prone in NOla into Green place. As a former resident of there the "its below sealevel argument lets not rebuild" is a little simplistic
Actually New Orleans didn't take a direct hit as the article states.
The BBC should get its history straight. The worst natural disaster in American history was the Class 5 hurricane that struck Galveston, Texas in September 1900. Called 'Isaac's Storm' after Isaac Cline, the national weather service meteorologist on site, the hurricane killed over 6,000 people and leveled the city.
Uh, it wasn't a direct hit. Katrina blew the levees with a backhand blow from her weak side.
"Keep the helpful slogans coming"
Do you really think that LA voters will be influenced by banter on a FR thread?
So then, you're suggesting we spend federal $ mainly to get republicans elected?
Boy, you really are from Louisiana, aren;t you?
Ah. So in order to win over the people in your state, a pubbie has to tell them what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear.
Which wouldn't be all that bad except that y'all are also asking for so much of our tax dollars.
"Keep the helpful slogans coming"
I'm not condemning New Orleans; it is in a very precarious situation, though. Moreso than the Netherlands or Venice, neither of which have to contend with hurricanes, but are apparenlty better prepared to deal with the inevitable, and both predate New Orleans by quite a bit.
Dirt boy and by the way I enjoyed our conversation last night I realize your not the enemy in this. The problem was storm surge. In large part to that inter coastal canal I believe. I think in some ways it was the perfect storm. Also if some idiot had secured a barge we wouldnt have had half the flooding in Nola esp in the lake view area that resulted in the waters you saw on canal and the quarter
ROFL! But are they all registered as Democrats yet? ;)
No dirt boy the point is we know the situation. We also know there are solutions to it. We are full aware of the facts on the ground. Blissfull ignorance and pipedreams are not a current state of reality we are living with
The point is, Katrina was Cat 2 on the weak side. Surge was probably Cat 3.
The levees were supposed to hold up to Cat 3. They didn't.
What would happen if the levees were built to supposed Cat 5 strength, a Cat 5 hit, and it turns out the calculations were wrong again?
That seems to be what your politicians are peddling.
They are more concerned with getting money to people who didn't have flood insurance than using tax dollars to fix critical problems along the coast.
Where will all the cute voodoo stores relocate to?
No pessamist I saying learn a few facts first. From the discussion on this topic last night I think its shown to me and several conservative louisiana freepers who now are so hurt they dont come on here that the lack of thinking on this issue by many is incredible. We are not unprepared to make a few changes but really are sorry if we are not prepared to sit by while most of the State below I-10 becomes a swamp
Quote of the day:
"Somebody needs to tell the mayor of Chocolate City to get the chocolate chips off their butts and stop waiting for the caramels to rebuild their houses and the vanilla's to pay for them."
Dirtboy that is so untrue. Its is the major topic form Slidell to Lake charles. In fact after Rita its the main concern
GIVE ME A BREAK, if this is true, I say it might not be worth rebuilding all the city. Move it.
To make New Orleans safe to withstand a Category Five hurricane, his proposal is for a vast barrier system stretching from Mississippi all the way to Texas.
Sorry - we've got you beat. Detroit was founded in 1701, so "we - alls" have been around longer than "yalls".
what we are talking about are plans that allow the re sediment of our marshlands. Again the Barrier Island Question should not be visulaived as some huge cvontinious wall
like I said "most"
Sorry, but what are they pressing for most recently? Federal aid to start a buyout program.
And this is a problem because....
Because we need a major port at the base of the Mississippi to provide a transfer point between ocean-going and river-going traffic, or all those red states in the middle of the Union starve economically.
Venice shoud be preserved because it has architectural masterpieces unmatched in all the World. But the tract housing in the New Orleans basin was dime-a-dozen shacks, such as can be found in every city in the United States. There is simply no reason that what was being done there could not be done more safely and much cheaper almost anywhere else.
There is simply no reason to put it back.
Which would defeat the need to allow resedimentation.
And it also doesn't face hurricanes.
Louisiana is a red state. New Orleans was a blue city thus explaining Blanco and Landrieu. Vitter and Jindal represent and were voted in by RED voters. I live in the Metairie or Greater NO area and I can assure you I live in Bush country. So, people from LA do pay attention to FReepers.
I hope in the future if there is a biblical event in some of your areas I can have as much compassion as you have toward us.
No, they did not.
No need to read any further.
No the barriers are one step. the long tern preservatinon and advancement of the wetlands is whats needed
"I hope in the future if there is a biblical event in some of your areas I can have as much compassion as you have toward us."
Which post of mine are you referring to?
Link and quote or retraction, please.
It's hardly Olde Orleans, but the swamp has outlived it's Newness. Time to build a real New city on dry land. Then it would be New Orleans.
the problem with views of the ninth ward and its views on housing is sort of a fallcay. In fact people for some reason think that the 9th ward was some vast housing project. In fact it was not. In fact the architecture in some areas is quite similar to the houses in the Irish channel where I lived. It looks small but in fact I found living in these homes pleasant. Again the ARCHITECTURAL STYLE and refering to it as similar to most cities I think is inaccurate
And so rebuild the port as only a port, keep the French Quarter for the tourists and let the rest go back to swamp.
I understand the sadness that many in NO must feel, but in truth, NO will never be the same no matter how much money is thrown at it, just like Berlin, Dresden and many other cities that were destroyed for whatever reason, it's changed forever.
The problem is dry land. Nola is part of the issue but the alarm bells are going off in surrounding communities. They see nola and realize unless coastland reclaimation projects are not started Nola is them
I disagree that coastal erosion should be fixed for the same reason I do not feel building should be done below sea level. It may be simplistic but building against nature is not smart and it is simple don't do it or expect to every couple of generations to spend billions and billions of dollars to keep the residents (and former residents) satisfied. Green space, have at it, I do not consider that to be building.