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“U.S. soldiers tear up the Qur’an in Guantanamo” (Newsweek Report Was "Fake But Accurate")
ALJazeera ^ | 2/1/2006

Posted on 02/03/2006 2:26:50 PM PST by presidio9

Media reports, specially a story that was ran by the NEWSWEEK last year about the desecration of the Qur’an at GUANTANAMO sparked outrage and uproar among the Muslim countries and Muslim communities worldwide. It was worse than ABU GHRAIB scandal involving torturing and abusing Iraqi detainees at the hands of the U.S. occupation troops.

The abuse scandal was a physical and psychological torture of a few Muslims, whereas the Qur’an desecration came as a spiritual, emotional and psychological torture of Muslims all over the world.

True that the NEWSWEEK magazine backed away from the report detailing how the U.S. interrogators desecrated copies of the holy Qur’an at the GUANTANAMO Bay naval base, blamed for sparking fierce demonstrations and protests in Afghanistan and throughout the Muslim countries, numerous analysts explained that this was a cover up and another American attempt to eschew accountability.

Also some of the detainees who had been released from the U.S. naval base at GUANTANAMO affirmed that American interrogators did desecrate the Qur’an and that in some incidents they flushed it into the toilet and sometimes they tore up its pages to break the detainees and force them to speak.

Recently Der Spiegel had an interview with Nadja Dizdarevic, 31, a Bosnian Muslim, representing Guantanamo detainees at Amnesty International, a human rights group. Nadja is the wife of one of the ex-GUANTANAMO detainees, Boudella al-Hajj, who was captured by the U.S. in 2002 for allegedly planning attacks on the British and U.S. embassies in Sarajevo.

Amnesty, who has branded the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay a human rights failure; calling it "the gulag of our time" plans to release testimony by eight former GITMO detainees detailing scandalous conditions at the U.S. detention center.

Al Hajj and five other Bosnians of Algerian descent where acquitted of terror charges by a Bosnian court in 2002 due to lack of evidence, Dizdarevic said, adding that the Bosnian security forces later handed the group over to masked men who placed hoods on their heads- Dizdarevic suggests that they were CIA agents. Five days later the detainees arrived in Guantanamo.

Dizdarevic said that American lawyers representing her husband and the group were able to meet the detainees a few times, during which the men weren’t able to say much openly because their visitors' rights will be withdrawn if they do.

Those who complain to their lawyers regarding the harsh conditions at the camp face punishment.

”It's the same scenes we know from IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN. Dogs are laid on the bodies of naked prisoners, an unimaginable humiliation for devout Muslims. At night they are exposed to bright light or deafening music. The guards herd the prisoners into a hangar where the temperature is below freezing and straight after that put them into a room as hot as a sauna. Beatings are mainly aimed at the genitals and all this is filmed with video cameras. The favourite toy of the guards is the Qur’an; they throw copies of it into toilets or tear them up," Der Spiegel quoted Dizdarevic as saying.

Dizdarevic also referred to what’s been described in news reports as underground interrogation cells like those in Turkey, She added that in Camp Iguana, another section of GUANTANAMO camp; U.S. soldiers hold young people aged 10 to 16, and that they’re often beaten.

The U.S. holds about 500 suspects in GUANTANAMO from about 40 countries. So far about 200 detainees have been released, though some have been jailed in their countries; and many have been held for three years without charge.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falkoff; wtfk

1 posted on 02/03/2006 2:26:53 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Saudi Arabia Shreds Bibles and Destroys Crucifix of Nun(s)

Both true, and accurate.

2 posted on 02/03/2006 2:28:52 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: presidio9

And OF COURSE none of the former detainees would ever LIE about their detention in order to further their cause...


3 posted on 02/03/2006 2:29:20 PM PST by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: presidio9

They should have been lobotomized.


4 posted on 02/03/2006 2:30:49 PM PST by hershey
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To: xcamel
Saudi Arabia Shreds Bibles and Destroys Crucifix of Nun(s)... Both true, and accurate

Condi Rice's Department of State won't condemn that.
5 posted on 02/03/2006 2:30:56 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: presidio9

"She added that in Camp Iguana, another section of GUANTANAMO camp; U.S. soldiers hold young people aged 10 to 16, and that they’re often beaten."

She is a liar and did someone say that she sells herself at dog shows.


7 posted on 02/03/2006 2:32:11 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: presidio9
Recently Der Spiegel had an interview with Nadja Dizdarevic, 31, a Bosnian Muslim, representing Guantanamo detainees at Amnesty International, a human rights group.

More evidence that we back the wrong side in Kosovo.
8 posted on 02/03/2006 2:32:55 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: presidio9

One of the things I value about having left the military is that I can feel free to pee on a Queer-an anytime I like.


9 posted on 02/03/2006 2:33:21 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: presidio9
The terrorists are trained to lie. One of the few possessions allowed to the prisoners is a Koran. They desecrate it themselves and claim the guards did it.

The Muslim press whips up the mob with the claim. Lying to "infidels" is nothing to them at all levels of their society.

Islamic Society of Denmark Used Fake Cartoons to Create Story!

10 posted on 02/03/2006 2:36:01 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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Amnesty, who has branded the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay a human rights failure; calling it "the gulag of our time"

Nothing wrong with gulags as long as the right people are in 'em.

11 posted on 02/03/2006 2:36:21 PM PST by hang 'em (Buy more Legos)
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To: advance_copy

That's because we have to be sensitive to their outrage over such things. We have to be sensitive to their beliefs and submit. (PBTA the most merciful) (sarcasm)


12 posted on 02/03/2006 2:38:14 PM PST by plain talk
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To: presidio9
The guards herd the prisoners into a hangar where the temperature is below freezing

I don't think it has ever gotten below 32F in Gitmo. But a jihadi wouldn't lie, would he???

13 posted on 02/03/2006 2:38:35 PM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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To: presidio9

I don't believe Newsweek and I don't believe Al-Jazeera.


14 posted on 02/03/2006 2:39:47 PM PST by airborne
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15 posted on 02/03/2006 2:40:38 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Philistone
And OF COURSE none of the former detainees would ever LIE about their detention in order to further their cause...

that is what i was thinking too. in fact, now that i think about it, i can't really say i have ever heard anyone that was in prison say "it was a LOVELY place! i am so looking forward to taking my wife and children there on vacation!" i know that a lot of the prisons in the US and Canada give courses, i wonder if they don't there also, something like *itching and Moaning 101.

16 posted on 02/03/2006 2:41:28 PM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: presidio9

hope they pissed on it too


17 posted on 02/03/2006 2:44:51 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: YOUGOTIT
She is a liar and did someone say that she sells herself at dog shows

Don't know about that but I know she sleeps with dogs!

18 posted on 02/03/2006 2:46:29 PM PST by rocksblues (John McCain says adopt a terrorist today!)
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To: Wolfhound777
Let me see if I understand all of this......

The one who visited the Clinton Horehouse the most was......Arafat. We fought on the side of Muslims against Christians during the Clinton blow your horn tenure. The democrat party is more concerned about the rights of the terrorists that enjoy killing innocent children and women. The same party that enjoys killing innocent children in the womb......Hmmmm. Would it be the same democrat party that is upset about the US Government listening to terrorists phone calls made to the US........the same party that made sure it was put out in the open so the terrorists would know we were listening.......Makes you wonder whom exactly are the terrorists living in this country....If it acts, looks,and keeps coming up as ......then it must be.......

19 posted on 02/03/2006 2:49:25 PM PST by Two-Bits (Attn Democrats: Radical Islam does not care whether you are a liberal or conservative.)
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To: Philistone

Oh no, never.


20 posted on 02/03/2006 2:50:38 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: presidio9
Muslims are pathological liars and whiners. It's impossible to trust one single thing that comes out of the mouth of any of them. And they make these stories up so they'll have something to whine about.

They refuse to accept the fact the Newsweek story was bogus. Somehow believing it makes them feel victimized and thus due special privileges. I'm sick of listening to their griping and moaning. They're the biggest bunch of savages on the planet and yet they constantly dredge up these supposed insensitivities.
21 posted on 02/03/2006 2:54:16 PM PST by bereanway
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To: bereanway

Two years ago there was a man running for president who was still clinging to the idea that there was some truth to the Tawana Brawley hoax, and Newsweek was taking him seriously.


22 posted on 02/03/2006 2:59:35 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: satchmodog9
"Dogs are laid on the bodies of naked prisoners, an unimaginable humiliation for devout Muslims."

Anybody think through the logistics involved in this?

Now let's see. You're interrogating a tough guy at Guantanamo - You decide that the only thing that will break him is the ol' dead-dog-on-the-body-treatment.

Where are you going to get a pet dog on a military base? Most Post Commanders don't permit a lot of stray dogs, dead or alive to wander the post. It's not an accompanied tour for the soldiers there, so there aren't going to be any families with pets, you can snatch. You're certainly not going to shoot a perfectly good guard dog. Since you're in Cuba, you can't go wandering the countryside and collect a stray somewhere.

Nope. You're going to have to put in a requisition form, and have one shipped in, frozen.

Anybody know the Mil Specs for an Army frozen dead dog?

23 posted on 02/03/2006 3:01:25 PM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: presidio9
This is outrageous! They should have torn up Bibles instead.

That way they could have gotten funding from the NEA. :-'

24 posted on 02/03/2006 3:42:44 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: presidio9

I would expect the story about dogs is only part of the story.
They got excited and were not allowed to take the dogs in their abnormal ways.


25 posted on 02/03/2006 3:53:03 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: Two-Bits

"If it acts, looks,and keeps coming up as ......then it must be......."

Reminds me of the old Cheech and Chong skit,something like:

Cheech: "Pick it up"
Chong: "Feels like shiite"
Cheech: "Smell it"
Chong: "Smells like shiite"
Cheech: "Taste it"
Chong: "Tastes like shiite"
Cheech: "Well, put it down and make sure you don't step in it."

Yea, we have been forced to eat their shiite for far too long.


26 posted on 02/03/2006 4:00:53 PM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful muslim...The Ultimate Oxymoron!)
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To: presidio9
The source for many of the Gitmo abuse stories was Marc Falkoff, a lawyer for the Yemeni detainees.

Falkoff also teaches criminal law at NIU, where the gunman , Stephen Kazmierczak had what "looked like a bright future in the criminal justice field."

Falkoff participated in a teach-in about Guantanamo on October 2006

27 posted on 02/22/2008 10:14:02 AM PST by syriacus (Mrs. Obama's Little Book of Etiquette says it's NOW acceptable to be REALLY proud of being American.)
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