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Lecturer: Blacks have yet to heal (post-traumatic slave syndrome)
NorthJersey.com ^ | 02.03.06 | JENNIFER HINES CUNNINGHAM

Posted on 02/03/2006 6:47:14 PM PST by Coleus

Some students at William Paterson University Thursday said they could see a correlation between the behavior of some students on campus and what a visiting professor called "post-traumatic slave syndrome."

Joy DeGruy Leary, an assistant professor of social work at Portland State University, presented more than a decade of research to a crowd of some 100 people at and concluded that generations of black families have been traumatized by the lingering effects of slavery. Her talk was the first in a series of Black History Month programs at the school.

Leary said she often hears blacks say that "good hair," or hair that is straight is more desired than "nappy hair," or curly hair.

"Why do we loathe the things that make us black?" she asked the audience. "These are socially learned behaviors."

Student Janelle Batson, 23, a junior, said she believes that lighter-skinned blacks on campus are sometimes seen as socially superior.

"This is something that is definitely affecting the black community on campus," she said.

Senior Dennis Wilson, 27, said "Many in our community are prone to dislike work because as slaves, we had to work long hours and weren't justly compensated."

Lawrence E. Mbogoni, Chair of African, African American and Caribbean Studies at William Paterson University, said in a telephone interview that the ramifications of slavery are still being felt to this day.

"What happens when someone is traumatized? They need to go through therapy," he said. "Freed slaves were never given any therapy after experiencing what they did."

Leary said drug use, high rates of incarceration, poverty, self-hate and the breakdown of the black family are symptoms that have not been eradicated from the culture.

"We are an incredible people, and a resilient people, but we have yet to heal," said Leary, who is black. "Cycles of oppression have left scars that have embedded themselves into our collective psyche."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: academia; academialist; blackhistorymonth; slavery; wpu
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1 posted on 02/03/2006 6:47:15 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

This is a satire piece, right?


2 posted on 02/03/2006 6:50:03 PM PST by pennboricua
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To: Coleus

"What happens when someone is traumatized? They need to go through therapy," he said. "Freed slaves were never given any therapy after experiencing what they did."

And where can I find these 140+ yr-old victims?


3 posted on 02/03/2006 6:50:23 PM PST by indcons
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To: pennboricua

Unfortunately, it is not!!


4 posted on 02/03/2006 6:51:08 PM PST by indcons
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To: Coleus
Senior Dennis Wilson, 27, said "Many in our community are prone to dislike work because as slaves, we had to work long hours and weren't justly compensated."

Yeah. That's it.

5 posted on 02/03/2006 6:51:48 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Coleus

oh crap.


6 posted on 02/03/2006 6:52:25 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Coleus

It's easier to pretend to be a victim than to claim authority for your own outcome.


7 posted on 02/03/2006 6:53:17 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..".Liberty is the right and hope of all humanity"GW Bush)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It's something that a number of people can (and obviously do) use as an excuse.


8 posted on 02/03/2006 6:53:29 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Coleus
Student Janelle Batson, 23, a junior, said she believes that lighter-skinned blacks on campus are sometimes seen as socially superior.

That's right, Janelle. They are seen as socially superior....by darker skinned blacks who call them 'yellows'.

9 posted on 02/03/2006 6:53:50 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Coleus
the breakdown of the black family are symptoms that have not been eradicated from the culture.

Sorry, but this tragedy didn't start until liberalism, abortion, promiscuity, welfare and a hundred other 'progressive' policies infected American culture. You can't blame this on slavery.

10 posted on 02/03/2006 6:55:59 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

And the Holocaust survivors? No therapy there. No ' we were forced to work in the camps, so we need welfare now."

Just keep thinking victim and voting Democrat!


11 posted on 02/03/2006 6:56:31 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (I am soooo sick of Oprah!!!! Oprah, STFU !)
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To: indcons

He's probably right. Trauma is passed on generationally. Black slaves get whipped and sexually abused by slave owners. Then when they have children, they beat them, then their children beat their children. This is the real cause for why the black population is poor. The rate of child abuse in the community IS HUGE. This is not junk science, its how humans behave. Its the reason why if you treat your kids well, raise them right there is about zero chance they will be criminals.


12 posted on 02/03/2006 6:56:59 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Coleus

The problem with this lame excuse, is it skips generations of blacks that contradicted all this. 80 years ago for instance blacks had a lower illegitimacy rate than whites. Study blacks between 1860 and 1960 and you will see some stats that will reveal that the sickness among many present day blacks is a recent phenomena.


13 posted on 02/03/2006 6:57:08 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Coleus
How could University students (who have never been slaves) be suffering from post-traumatic slave syndrome?

I think the visiting professor is suffering from post-traumatic liberalism syndrome.

14 posted on 02/03/2006 6:57:56 PM PST by vox humana
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To: Coleus

Instead of spending time 'healing', how about spending time finding a job or starting a business?????


15 posted on 02/03/2006 6:58:51 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: RHINO369

Very interesting analysis.....do you have any data on how trauma is "passed on generationally"? If this hypothesis is true, why is it that other formerly oppressed cultures/societies don't exhibit similar tendencies? Or do they???

Just wondering.....


16 posted on 02/03/2006 7:00:46 PM PST by indcons
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To: vox humana

When I see this stuff it seems so insignificant compared to the stuff we have overcome.


17 posted on 02/03/2006 7:00:49 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Coleus
My dad grew up shirt-tail poor in Georgia. He was abused at the hands of one of the most cruel men Satan ever created in ways that would make you physically sick.

So how come he became a successful adult with 4 college-educated kids and 10 "on-their-way" to being great grandkids. He had no therapy and nothing beyond a belt buckle to the back for motivation.

Post-traumatic stress from a century ago? Try ingrained welfare for 3-4 generations--there's the problem.

18 posted on 02/03/2006 7:03:12 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Coleus
A majority of the current crop of African-Americans are still slaves....

slaves of the liberal white elite who run the Democrat Party.

As more blacks hitch up their trousers, tone down their boom-boxes and improve their pronunciation, the mainstream American culture will welcome them with open arms.

Too many blacks take the easy road, listening to their mullahs of hate and fail to think for themselves.

But on a positive note......things are looking up.

Blackwell.....Swann....Steele....Rice....and more to come.

Bring it on!!!

19 posted on 02/03/2006 7:03:41 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: SoftballMominVA

"Try ingrained welfare for 3-4 generations--there's the problem."

Worth repeating....well said.


20 posted on 02/03/2006 7:04:30 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Im not an expert but I listen to Dr. Drew Penski, hes an internist who specializes in addiction medicine, he has a nightly nationally syndicated radio show called Loveline.

Basically things that tramatize you as a child turn into sources of attraction as an adult. Also things that happened to you as a child, you end up doing to your children, unless you get treatment. For example 60% of children who were molested, end up becoming child molesters themselves. It can be summed up as you become your parents.

The same thing happens in all cultures. White trash in the south, same thing, theres a reason why so few of them change. Arab culture has the same thing going on.


21 posted on 02/03/2006 7:07:27 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Coleus

If blacks want to talk about the effects of slavery they need look no further than the party blacks overwhelmingly vote for every election year, namely the treason party; The Demon-rats. The party that has only one mission for blacks which is to enslave them to government, to socialist programs, to demean them with racist concepts like affirmative action, a concept that would have them believe that they are less equal than everybody else, a party that has people like Bill Clinton and John Kerry who openly mock blacks by calling themselves "black Presidents", a party that has a former KKK memeber, a party whose highest ranking black in their last Presidential administration was a secretary who had to demean herself by making BJ appointments for interns.


22 posted on 02/03/2006 7:10:57 PM PST by Screamname (Tagline)
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To: RHINO369

BTW I'm not making excuses. The problem needs to end, and paying for these women to have tons of kids. Once you go from the young victim to being a teen age mother, you are now the victimizer, and societies problem.


23 posted on 02/03/2006 7:11:47 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: vox humana

Liberal policies break hearts and destroy lives. There's a tagline if I ever saw one.


24 posted on 02/03/2006 7:12:04 PM PST by charrisGOP ("Troubles are often the tools by which God fashions us for better things." --Henry Ward Beecher)
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To: RHINO369

I mean not paying for their children ^^^


25 posted on 02/03/2006 7:12:30 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Coleus


"Student Janelle Batson, 23, a junior, said she believes that lighter-skinned blacks on campus are sometimes seen as socially superior."

And the darker skinned people on campus are often seen as victims that are held back.

I have a solution for this - raise taxes and elect Democrats...


26 posted on 02/03/2006 7:14:21 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Coleus
maybe im also suffering from post slavery stress syndrome from my ancestors being enslaved by the Romans when they conquered Europe, because my wife thinks I'm a lazy good for nothing...

*rolls eyes*
27 posted on 02/03/2006 7:19:49 PM PST by conservative physics
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To: pennboricua

28 posted on 02/03/2006 7:22:04 PM PST by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: RHINO369

slavery was wrong... but most slaves were treated fairly by their masters, and most slaves choose to stay and work for the same people who had previously owned them after they were freed.

I suspect the same proportion of slave owners mistreated their slaves as people today mistreat their dogs.


29 posted on 02/03/2006 7:23:08 PM PST by conservative physics
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To: conservative physics

"slavery was wrong... but most slaves were treated fairly by their masters, and most slaves choose to stay and work for the same people who had previously owned them after they were freed.

I suspect the same proportion of slave owners mistreated their slaves as people today mistreat their dogs"

This is the single dumbest thing i have ever read on this forum.


30 posted on 02/03/2006 7:30:55 PM PST by Zauber
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To: indcons
What about the victims currently in the Sudan and Middle East who continue practicing slavery and conveniently ignored by these "educators"?
31 posted on 02/03/2006 7:33:59 PM PST by dhouston
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Well I am speaking from experience, my family were slave owners and many of the slaves they had that were freed choose to stay on and work the land after they were freed.

These freed slaves were treated well and were in many ways considered part of the family. Even after all these generations the descendants of those slaves keep in touch with and are friendly with those of us descended from their ancestors owners.

I brought up the pet comparison because many people love their pets and treat them as part of their family, while other beat and generally abuse their pets. The analogy seemed fair, although I in no way think blacks are animals.
32 posted on 02/03/2006 7:36:22 PM PST by conservative physics
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To: vox humana
I think the visiting professor is suffering from post-traumatic liberalism syndrome.

Nonsense ... she just has to produce something to justify all the grant money she sucks up.

33 posted on 02/03/2006 7:37:54 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: Coleus

PLEASE tell me this is a joke!!!!! This PC/victimology nonsense has got to end, or our culture will go down the tubes like ancient Rome.....


34 posted on 02/03/2006 7:38:41 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Coleus
I'm of Irish ancestry. My people were slaves and serfs far longer than these folks' ancestors.

Where's my compensation?

Oh, that's right. Never mind.

35 posted on 02/03/2006 7:39:13 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Coleus
Some students at William Paterson University Thursday said they could see a correlation between the behavior of some students on campus and what a visiting professor called "post-traumatic slave syndrome."

I would be willing to bet that not one of these 'traumatized' students are computer science, math, engineering or chemistry majors but ARE ethnic studies, black history, sociology or child development majors.

I would also be willing to bet that blacks who own their own businesses, are climbing the corporate ladder or marrying and raising kids DO NOT have this 'syndrome' because THEY'RE TOO BUSY BEING AN AMERICAN SUCCESS STORY.

36 posted on 02/03/2006 7:39:44 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Coleus

As Homer would say: "Help me, Jeebus!"


37 posted on 02/03/2006 7:43:02 PM PST by Mogengator
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To: Coleus

What a crock!


38 posted on 02/03/2006 7:43:55 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: indcons

My late uncle would have said--don't bring that crap up with me, my family came over in 1920.


39 posted on 02/03/2006 7:45:13 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: RHINO369

For example 60% of children who were molested, end up becoming child molesters themselves.

Stats to back this claim up? This cannot possibly apply to females.


40 posted on 02/03/2006 7:50:20 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Coleus

What has this got to do with me?


41 posted on 02/03/2006 7:53:30 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: Coleus
Senior Dennis Wilson, 27, said "Many in our community are prone to dislike work because as slaves, we had to work long hours and weren't justly compensated."

Oh sure, that must be it. How did this guy make it to being a senior?
42 posted on 02/03/2006 7:55:00 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Lizavetta
Sorry, but this tragedy didn't start until liberalism, abortion, promiscuity, welfare and a hundred other 'progressive' policies infected American culture.

Correct. For all the discrimination and extra burdens borne by American Blacks, the Black community was doing well up into the late 1950's, with no more of this social pathology than the White community. The "breakdown of the Black family" can be directly and decisively traced to socially dysfunctional liberal welfare politics. Patrick Moynihan did it in 1965.

43 posted on 02/03/2006 7:57:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: indcons

Therapy is the Rat's answer for everything. If only everyone had therapy, things would be ideal. If the murdering, terrorist hordes had therapy they would be singing kumbaya with the west. Hell, I'm surprised the Rats don't make it part of their platform. National Therapy Care for everyone.


44 posted on 02/03/2006 7:57:46 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: conservative physics

"most slaves were treated fairly by their masters"

Please explain to me how enslavement can in any way be described as "fair treatment".

"most slaves choose to stay and work for the same people who had previously owned them after they were freed."

Exactly what other options were available to them?

"I brought up the pet comparison because many people love their pets and treat them as part of their family, while other beat and generally abuse their pets. The analogy seemed fair, although I in no way think blacks are animals"

You also obviously don't think they are people with the same hopes and aspirations as "those of us descended from their ancestors owners".


45 posted on 02/03/2006 7:59:16 PM PST by Zauber
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

"It's something that a number of people can (and obviously do) use as an excuse"

If they were grousing like this at a local watering hole, it would be sad enough, but at a college? Pathetic!


46 posted on 02/03/2006 8:00:26 PM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: RHINO369
He's probably right

It's a she, she's wrong, and so are you. The fact is, none of these problems existed in the Black community after the Civil war or well into the welfare era of the 1950's. Black families were just as stable as white families, with only marginally higher rates of illegitimacy, etc., and that's despite real, rather than fantasized, racial problems.

You are misinformed and need to educate yourself at some length as to "how humans behave." So far, you have been listening to people who have been lying to you.

47 posted on 02/03/2006 8:02:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Zauber

I agree. No one ever woke up thinking, "If I REALLY try hard, I may become a slave some day!"


48 posted on 02/03/2006 8:06:07 PM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: RHINO369
an internist who specializes in addiction medicine, he has a nightly nationally syndicated radio show called Loveline.

One definition of malpractice is practicing outside one's area of competence. Internists typically don't know jack about empirical psychology and the "trauma business" is notorious for unethical charlatans like your latenight talkshow host.

49 posted on 02/03/2006 8:06:51 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Stats to back this claim up? This cannot possibly apply to females.

This number is picked out of the air. The vast majority of molested children do NOT go on to molest their own children. It is one of the wretched urban legends of the 90's, along with repressed memories and international satanic cults all over the daycare industry. The sexual abuse problem is bad for many of its victims, but the numbers were not as pervasive as the feministas would have us all believe.

50 posted on 02/03/2006 8:13:46 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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