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Cartoonist Ted Rall: "We Do Not Owe Our Liberties To The Military"
Newsbusters.org ^ | 3 February 2006 | Dave Pierre

Posted on 02/03/2006 8:30:23 PM PST by infoguy

In an especially contentious exchange on this evening's Hannity and Colmes (Friday February 3, 2006), cantankerous cartoonist Ted Rall, a guest on the program, unbelievably declared, "We do not owe our liberties to the military." The topic was the recent Washington Post cartoon by Tom Toles that has outraged many. The cartoon prompted a letter to the editor (linked at Michelle Malkin) from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who tagged the the work as "beyond tasteless." Needless to say, Rall (who himself has created bigoted trash in the past) defended Toles' cruel piece. Here's the relevant exchange (audiotape on file, emphasis mine):

SEAN HANNITY: Here's what you're missing. The reason that you have the right to be mean, and you were mean to this guy [killed in Afghanistan, former NFL star Pat] Tillman, who gave up a football contract to save his country. The reason you have the right to be mean in your cartoons, and Toles has a right to mean and insensitive in his cartoons, is because of people like this (Sean holds up the WaPo cartoon) that literally put their lives on the line so you have the right for free expression. And you insult them and use them as props so you can make your left-wing political points.

RALL: Sean, you could not possibly be more wrong about the nature of this country. We do not owe our liberties to the military. We owe them to the Constitution. We have civilian rule in the United States --

HANNITY: The military preserves the Constitution. They put their lives on the line so that you have free speech. You do owe them.

RALL: The military doesn't give us free speech.

HANNITY: Yes, they do.

RALL: Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers gave us free speech.

HANNITY: No. Because if they don't defend that Constitution, you don't have the right to be so wrong in your cartoons!

"We do not owe our liberties to our military"?? I'm sure George Washington would have had a few things to say about that, not to mention the generations of heroic young men who fought and died to protect and defend our precious liberties.

It was simply another pathetic display by Ted Rall. How ungrateful this man is. What a disgrace.

By the way, if Rall's comments weren't sad enough, co-host Alan Colmes claimed that the Joint Chiefs' letter to the Washington Post was "intimidating" and that there was a "chill of intimidation that goes right down the spine of the First Amendment." Puh-leeze, Alan.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahole; cartoons; hateamericafilth; hateamericatrash; hatebush; hateourtroops; hatingamerica; idiot; ignorant; ingrates; moron; stuckonstupid; tedrall; turd; washingtonpost
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1 posted on 02/03/2006 8:30:28 PM PST by infoguy
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To: infoguy

Ted Rall is a pin prick.


2 posted on 02/03/2006 8:31:19 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: infoguy

Rall is a boil on the buttocks of humanity - a turd in the punchbowl of life - a useless eater - an oxygen waster - a poor use of resources to have him on tv....Why does Hannity keep doing it?


3 posted on 02/03/2006 8:32:29 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/">Tasteless Unpatriotic Rag</a>)
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To: satchmodog9

Well, minus the pin part.


4 posted on 02/03/2006 8:32:34 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: infoguy

Rall looked like a real geeky weasel on the show. He is a tough talker for a guy afraid of his own shadow.


5 posted on 02/03/2006 8:32:42 PM PST by frankjr
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To: satchmodog9
Ted Rall is a pin prick.

Fixed!

6 posted on 02/03/2006 8:33:46 PM PST by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: infoguy

I would like to be the first to sponsor a one way ticket fund for Mr. Rall to the Socialist Leftist Nation of his choice. The list should include:

1. China
2. Cuba
3. Iran
4. Syria

He should be given an INS escort to the aircraft with instructions to NEVER AGAIN RETURN TO THIS COUNTRY YOU LEFTIST PIECE OF CRAP!!!


7 posted on 02/03/2006 8:33:53 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: infoguy
"chill of intimidation that goes right down the spine of the First Amendment."

Or as Tim Robbins sez..."A Chill Wynde" ™.

8 posted on 02/03/2006 8:34:03 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: infoguy
Hey, Rall....

Hold that piece of paper up in front of you and see if it will stop bullets.

10 posted on 02/03/2006 8:34:49 PM PST by TNdandelion
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To: infoguy
Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers gave us free speech

No. George Washington's soldiers did. And they're all dead. The ones defending it now are alive and fighting for our freedom around the world.

11 posted on 02/03/2006 8:34:53 PM PST by plain talk
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To: infoguy

"We do not owe our liberties to the military. We owe them to the Constitution."

This guy is stupid on top of being seditious. We don't owe our liberties to the Constitution any more than we owe them to Jefferson, the Founders or to the great pumpkin. The Constitution merely affirms that our rights are GOD given and the Constitution reinforces that by limiting government's ability to take them from us.


12 posted on 02/03/2006 8:34:59 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I have nothing else to say - for now.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

We want this goon on TV. Makes our points for us.


13 posted on 02/03/2006 8:35:00 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: BackInBlack

Absolutely...


14 posted on 02/03/2006 8:35:45 PM PST by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: satchmodog9
You're half right.

L

15 posted on 02/03/2006 8:35:56 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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To: infoguy

Who's Ted Rall and why should I care??

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


16 posted on 02/03/2006 8:35:57 PM PST by bray (Jack Bauer '08)
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To: Hypervigilant; Brett66

If I ever meet this guy my first instruction to him will be to call his Proctologist and my Pediatrist.


17 posted on 02/03/2006 8:35:58 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Did you just say the G-word?


18 posted on 02/03/2006 8:36:51 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: infoguy

What a loser. Th. Jefferson, Madison, whoever, would've been executed w/o an army to win the Revolution. Rall was not worth "debating" cuz he's an idiot.


19 posted on 02/03/2006 8:36:53 PM PST by Sans-Culotte (Meadows Place, TX-"Tom DeLay Country")
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To: infoguy
I saw the segment and in it Ted Rall confirmed by his actions he is the lowest of the low. Colmes was a close second.
20 posted on 02/03/2006 8:37:23 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: manic4organic
Ted Rall is a "pin head".

(Along with being a "needle d**k")
21 posted on 02/03/2006 8:37:32 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: infoguy

I saw the exchange. Ted Rall was disgusting.


22 posted on 02/03/2006 8:37:41 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: infoguy

That piece of sh*t doesn't deserve the air he breathes.


23 posted on 02/03/2006 8:37:43 PM PST by farlander
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To: infoguy

I saw that. A classic liberal idiot. Yeah we won our independence from England because of our great writing skills and we were such great debaters. LOL!


24 posted on 02/03/2006 8:37:46 PM PST by buckeyesrule
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To: Hypervigilant

Don't get too worked up. The more he's on TV making an ass of himself and his window-licking ilk, the better it is for our side.


25 posted on 02/03/2006 8:38:45 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: satchmodog9
Rall has the mind of a six-year old.

WITHOUT security and enforcement of laws via the military/police, there IS no "constitution" to uphold.

26 posted on 02/03/2006 8:38:53 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: CheyennePress

Yep.


27 posted on 02/03/2006 8:39:12 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I have nothing else to say - for now.)
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To: satchmodog9
Has Ted Rall been invited to venezuela to draw cartoons of Chavez? Or maybe Castro will find Rall's depictions of Cuba amusing? AGain and again the same thing comes up - its easy and fashionable to mock the civilized - like the US, like christians etc but really courageous and dangerous and moral to ridicule the truly egregious - like commie basturds in commielands, like that unforgettable image of a lone student facing a tank in tiananmen, of drawing profet mahomet's cartoons etc. Bottomline? If you wanna be heard and get respect, then you gotta blow up things... Now, this photo below, one of my favorites, is exhibit A in courage in recent times. Its easy to burn the US flag but doing what that kid did down there in that photograph? Thats courage for you. Often wonder what happened to him, though...
28 posted on 02/03/2006 8:39:22 PM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: infoguy

Hannity allowing that scumbag on his show was his first mistake. Ignore that bottom dwelling leftists is the best medicine


29 posted on 02/03/2006 8:40:36 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: phoenix0468

He's either very very very very very very very very stupid, or a liar in the worst degree.


30 posted on 02/03/2006 8:40:52 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Hypervigilant

Watch your language!!


31 posted on 02/03/2006 8:41:19 PM PST by ditto h
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To: infoguy

32 posted on 02/03/2006 8:41:38 PM PST by WIladyconservative (Can't find a suitable exercise video for my age; they don't have one called "Buns of Putty.")
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To: phoenix0468

You forgot North Korea......that would be FIRST on my list.


33 posted on 02/03/2006 8:41:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (Dems..........Stuck on Stupidity proven at the SOTU.)
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To: infoguy

The founding fathers were the military essentially.

This SOB is beyond hope.


34 posted on 02/03/2006 8:42:11 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: infoguy
RALL: The military doesn't give us free speech.

HANNITY: Yes, they do.

RALL: Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers gave us free speech.

HANNITY: No. Because if they don't defend that Constitution, you don't have the right to be so wrong in your cartoons!

Somebody might just want to ask this idiot if he had ever heard of something called the REVOLUTIONARY WAR!

The military had nothing to do with that? Somebody needs to bring to Rall's attention that had we NOT WON the Revolutionary War, there would never have been a Constitution, since Madison, Jefferson, Washington, and all the rest would have been hanged as traitors and seditionists. Hey Ted! Did you know that what is now America began as British Colonies?

This guy's stupidity is really stunning!

Mark

35 posted on 02/03/2006 8:43:40 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: infoguy
Ted Rall and Tom Toles think freedom of speech only applies to them and not anyone else.

Freedom of speech is a two Way Street of ideas, not everyone is going to agree with you all of the time.

This is what these two mental midgets and any other liberal must learn. Not every German agree with Hitler but were afraid to speak out, now these jokers and their liberal co-whores want the same type of power as the Nazi dictator.

No one is calling for censorship; they are being told that it was in bad taste. Now they are having a hissy fit like a child in a grocery store not getting candy at the checkout aisle...Maybe it’s time their Mommy showed them some tough-love...It isn't all about them.


36 posted on 02/03/2006 8:44:00 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: RHINO369

I vote BOTH.


37 posted on 02/03/2006 8:44:04 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: infoguy
Hannity was so right to get right into this mans face, 10 minutes later he is defending what is at least a questionable action (the cop shooting the suspect) with every fiber in his body.
38 posted on 02/03/2006 8:45:17 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

I believed you fixed it correctly!


39 posted on 02/03/2006 8:45:23 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: ditto h

Sorry.


40 posted on 02/03/2006 8:46:12 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Iran, you are next.)
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To: jazusamo
It's hard to fathom Colmes' knee-jerk liberalism. He seems smarter that that. Maybe it's a mental disorder.
41 posted on 02/03/2006 8:47:43 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Hypervigilant

"It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.

It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protestor to burn the flag.

--- by Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC


42 posted on 02/03/2006 8:49:03 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: F16Fighter

A six year old child is in possession of a mind FAR clearer than that IDIOT. It takes YEARS of self-absorption and "education" to create a mind like that twit has.


43 posted on 02/03/2006 8:49:53 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Iran, you are next.)
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To: phoenix0468

I wouldn't send Ted Rall to any of the above, I'd send him to North Korea. Let him starve and be oppressed at the same time.

All I need to know is that George Washington and the Patriots did their part for us BEFORE the Constitution was written. The British didn't let their Atlantic seaboard colonies go because they got a sudden urge to act nice.

This reminds me the the time in 2004 when Jimmy Carter said the American Revolution wasn't necessary, and that if we had talked more with King George III he would have granted independence peacefully, the way Britain later did with Canada and India. It made me wonder why he bothered to run for president in the first place.


44 posted on 02/03/2006 8:50:17 PM PST by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: goodnesswins

I was thinking Antarctica, but I wouldn't want to offend the penguins, they haven't hurt anyone. LOL.


45 posted on 02/03/2006 8:50:46 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: infoguy
Sean should have put a knee in Ted's chest and a fist in his throat, while Allen "The Crypt Keeper" Colmes screams "go to commercial!, go to commercial!"
46 posted on 02/03/2006 8:51:00 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: infoguy

Hannity handed him his **ss.

RALL: Sean, you could not possibly be more wrong about the nature of this country. We do not owe our liberties to the military. We owe them to the Constitution.

Rall's is a moron. I suppose he'd take a copy of the Constitution, hand it to dictators, and say "please."


47 posted on 02/03/2006 8:51:19 PM PST by dervish (Osama, please hold, I'm trying to reach a FISC judge)
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To: infoguy
Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers gave us free speech.

Here's the part Teddy Rall is too stupid to understand. If I walk up to you and put a pistol to your head, Tom and the Founding Fathers' "free speech" is cancelled out and no longer exists.

48 posted on 02/03/2006 8:51:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Berosus

Makes me wonder if the man hasn't lost his sanity, or if he ever had it.

BTW no one has caught my proctologist/pediatrist comment yet.


49 posted on 02/03/2006 8:52:47 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

pediatrist=podiatrist, OOPS. Really I don't want to stick my kid up his a**.


50 posted on 02/03/2006 8:54:34 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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