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Half of All Americans Expect War with Iran
Rassmussen via Angus Reid ^ | 2/04/06 | Rassmussen via Angus Reid

Posted on 02/04/2006 4:26:43 PM PST by freedom44

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To: Hypervigilant

Just make it hot and make it fast. .........let God sort them out.


21 posted on 02/04/2006 5:01:00 PM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad)
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To: freedom44

The other half expect their pizza to be here in 1/2-hour.


22 posted on 02/04/2006 5:01:38 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Deepkimche
I have always liked this one:

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. “The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. “The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." ~John Stuart Mill

23 posted on 02/04/2006 5:01:58 PM PST by curtisgardner
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To: freedom44

Since they are about to get the bomb, it would be better now than later.


24 posted on 02/04/2006 5:02:46 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: freedom44

Unless a miracle occurs there will be a war. Seven weeks to go.


25 posted on 02/04/2006 5:04:13 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Deepkimche

"I hate to say it, but the president needs to gin up the draft machinery"

Let me guess, you're not draft age. If so, this is easy for you to say.


26 posted on 02/04/2006 5:09:42 PM PST by tdice7
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To: Deepkimche
I agree with you. It seems to me that it would be a good idea to initiate a draft to build up military might capable of fighting wars on multiple fronts. Our forces of volunteers are absolutely great but given the dangers that our nation faces now, we need huge numbers of soldiers, Marines, and sailors ready to move quickly.

And to those who might comment, "Well, OldPossum, you can talk like that because you're obviously too old for the draft," I have served in our military (Army) and am damn proud of it. Given the opportunity, I'd gladly serve again.

27 posted on 02/04/2006 5:10:09 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

I didn't see post 26. Makes my point regarding service and the draft.


28 posted on 02/04/2006 5:11:10 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum
Someone (I think it was George Will), after making some comments on the 21st century, noted, "I don't think there will be a 22nd century."

I don't think there will be a 22nd century for George Will either.
29 posted on 02/04/2006 5:13:15 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: Deepkimche

I believe we can make it work by an intense air/land/sea bombardment that is targeted at military and nuke research sites. Make Iraq's taste of shock and awe look like a kid with a sparkler on the 4th, by comparison.

I bet our hesitant "allies" will be more than willing to send troops in for THIS particular mess. None of them want to see their Iranian oil cut off. So, we should have enough boots on the ground.

Iran is full of young, westernized folk. Won't be hard to get them to turn on the mullahs, once their ability to make war is destroyed.

And, the future of warfare is in robotics. If little me can imagine a slew of ways to keep our boys safe, while slaughtering the enemy with wholesale precision, just think what the real geniuses are thinking up.


30 posted on 02/04/2006 5:18:50 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Extreme? Nope. Honest and unafraid to speak.)
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To: Deepkimche

I'd have to agree with what you said about a draft. I am constantly amazed by the technology that is in the modern military. I don't like the idea of it, but ultimately, we still have to be in Iraq/Afghanistan, so if we have to be engaged somewhere else, we are going to need more people in the military.


31 posted on 02/04/2006 5:27:12 PM PST by kcbc2001
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To: tdice7
No need for argumentum ad hominem. We're all going to be in this war.
32 posted on 02/04/2006 5:30:11 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale

I have no problem serving and being drafted, but I would have a problem being called on if every other avenue wasnt exhausted first. Unless he wants a repeat of the "hell no, we won't go," days of Vietnam, the President should do whatever he can to avoid a draft.


33 posted on 02/04/2006 5:33:54 PM PST by tdice7
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To: tdice7

What would be other avenues that could be used to avoid a draft?


34 posted on 02/04/2006 5:39:25 PM PST by kcbc2001
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To: tdice7

If the war gets out of hand, say if another major country comes in as an ally of Iran, this country will be hard pressed to respond immediately. The reserves will be called up first. Draftees take considerable time for training and there may not be that kind of time. Vietnam was my time, and I was drafted, but reassigned to a defense plant. Getting drafted didn't bother me at all, in fact I was a little disappointed at not going. But, the next world war will involve everyone, in or out of the military, and those in the military might be the fortunate ones.


35 posted on 02/04/2006 5:40:23 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: freedom44
Iranian negotiator Baghdad Bob Javad Vaeedi, said his country would continue with its activities, declaring, "This resolution is politically motivated, since it is not based on any legal or technical grounds."
36 posted on 02/04/2006 5:43:49 PM PST by Liberator
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To: kenavi
I don't think there will be a 22nd century for George Will either.

Can't argue with that.

38 posted on 02/04/2006 5:49:24 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Deepkimche
I'm in agreement with you about everything except the draft. Instituting a draft would result in unmotivated and untrustworthly soldiers who would spend more time writing to their congressmen and wrecking esprit de corps than in fighting our enemies.

In addition, it would put a powerful weapon in the liberals' hands. Today they can't say our soldiers are in Iraq unwillingly, or that there's any discrimination, because every single solder is a volunteer. But pass a law implementing a draft, and the libs will knock each other over in their haste to get in front of a camera and scream, "It's a rich man's war and a poor man's fight!", or alternatively, "It's a white man's war and a black man's fight!"

My suggestion is to take the money it would cost to draft, train, and equip those soldiers, and use it for big pay raises for the volunteer force. That'll bring in recruits who are willing to fight and who have the added motivation of better financial support for their families.

40 posted on 02/04/2006 5:53:48 PM PST by American Quilter (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.)
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