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There is no evidence that the murder is connected with the Cartoon crisis. And also Trabzon as far as i know is a city where everyone is armed. A few days ago even two famous football player's car was shot 5 times each.. So it can even be mafia, don't judge with your prejudice over the current cartoon events...

Anyway, EU has acted very childish in this situation. They knew what kind of reaction there will be, they knew all the things Muslims will do. Yet, they still published the cartoon and defended it.

Then the question is; why did they chose to publish it, while they already knew the consequences. Muslims are generally uneducated, extremely sensitive and under threat of radical islamism.

Why would you do something that will help the radicals? Knowing the consequences...

Anyway, the Muslims to my knowledge have not yet published anything about Jesus Christ or anything associated yet. You should ask yourself why?

Why can we feel free to disrespect their beliefs, while they do not publish anything about ours but show different anger? Anger towards a flag, a newspaper, a government etc. but noting against things Christians accept Holy?

And to those who say "we should attack them like they do attack us", i am sorry but before the cartoon was published there were no problem. Now, West generally considers an attack physical. It is not the same with the East, the problem is Western Countries and citizens can not comprehend this.

They scratch the head thinking, "Why do they attack us? We didn't attack them!" Dead wrong, you were disrespectful and insulting. In eastern culture this is worse than punching someone in the face. I think i have made my point clear
36 posted on 02/06/2006 2:00:30 AM PST by Xargoth
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i am sorry but before the cartoon was published there were no problem

I call this a "problem" ... others, no doubt, will have other examples of "problems".

I think I have made my point clear.

39 posted on 02/06/2006 6:36:53 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Anger towards a flag, a newspaper, a government etc. but noting against things Christians accept Holy?

Does the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem ring a bell?

41 posted on 02/06/2006 6:50:48 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: Xargoth
Anyway, EU has acted very childish in this situation. They knew what kind of reaction there will be, they knew all the things Muslims will do. Yet, they still published the cartoon and defended it.

The EU didn’t do a thing, a newspaper in Denmark printed the cartoons. Denmark isn’t Saudi Arabia. They get to do that.

Then the question is; why did they chose to publish it, while they already knew the consequences. Muslims are generally uneducated, extremely sensitive and under threat of radical islamism.

Because they’re a newspaper, a private company, and there are no laws against it in Denmark. Move to Denmark, get elected to office, change the law. That’s how it works. The level of ignorance in the Muslim world is irrelevant.

Anyway, the Muslims to my knowledge have not yet published anything about Jesus Christ or anything associated yet. You should ask yourself why?

If it religious tolerance we’re discussing here, dare I mention Jews? A tad of religious intolerance there perhaps? i am sorry but before the cartoon was published there were no problem

Right, no problem for you.

Please, get back to me on the Muslim respect for religion and Jews thing. I've noticed a thing of two in the Arab press you might have missed.

 

[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 27, 2004]

Sharon eats Palestinian children. [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 22, 2004]

Jew is Satan. Pope says: “Peace on Earth” Satan-Jew: “Colonies on Earth” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida March 22, 2000]

On old man: "the 20th century" On young man: "the 21st century" Above dwarf Jew with Star of David: “The Disease of the Century” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida Dec. 28, 1999]

The U.S. using Israel to hold up the Arab World

Star of David and Kippa (skullcap) on the Rat. Text on the cheese: “Arab Homeland” Text on the knife: “USA” [Al - Hayat Al-Jadida Aug. 20, 2001]

Donkey with Talit [Jewish prayer shawl] marched through streets of Ramallah. [Note - PA religious leaders and PA school books [published in 2000] compare Jews to donkeys.

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 12, 2003

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 24, 2003

Al-Quds (PA), July 22, 2003

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 17, 2003

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 23, 2003


Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 12, 2003. , the day after the No. 14 bus suicide bombing in Jerusalem, showing torn body parts of a man who blew up

The weekly Akhbar Al-Yawm published a cartoon on March 12, 2005, in which President Bush is portrayed as an angel, but with cloven hooves and a pointy tail:.

In light of Egyptian-U.S. tensions, Egyptian government newspapers published a number of anti-American cartoons in recent days. The daily Al-Akhbar published a cartoon on March 14, 2005, in which Bush looks in a mirror and sees the image of Adolph Hitler

"Oh my dears, oh lion cubs [boys] of Palestine, oh, flowers [girls] of Palestine, oh, future of Palestine, oh power and splendor of Palestine.

"From you [came] the world hero, Fares 'Ouda. He is the symbol of the Palestinian people, who stands in heroism, pride, and willpower with the Palestinian stone facing the Israeli tank.

"This is the people of heroes that does not fear the tank, and does not fear the airplane, and does not fear the missile, and they cling to their place until Judgment Day. The Prophet [Muhammad] said: 'A group from among you will remain… standing on guard against your enemies. Their enemies will not triumph over them, and they will triumph, with Allah's help.'

"Thus it was said to the Messenger [Muhammad]: 'Where are they [the members of that group]? 'Who are they [the members of that group]?' [The Prophet Muhammad said]: '[They are] from Jerusalem its environs, from Jerusalem and its environs. And they stand [against their enemies] until Judgment Day, and every Shahid among them [is worth] 40 Shahids among you.'

"To whom did [the Prophet] say this? To his companions! He said to them: 'One Shahid from those [fighting for Jerusalem] is equal in value to 40 Shahids from [his companions]. This is the privilege Allah has given to you, oh boys and girls of Palestine…"
Yasser Arafat's Speech Marking International Day of the Child 2003, to Children of Palestinian Prisoners and Detainees Held by Israel, The Muqata'a, Ramallah .


47 posted on 02/06/2006 6:34:48 PM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
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