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The Valley's Not So Civil War [Libs vs Conservatives in Fresno/Central Valley]
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 5, 2006 | Mark Arax

Posted on 02/05/2006 2:22:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Ever since the twin towers came crashing down and the cloud of jihad fogged the land, the crop dusters swooping low over the San Joaquin Valley had taken on a new menace. Even here, tucked away in the farm fields of middle California, fear had settled into the ground. Harvest to harvest, one year to the next, we watched tens of thousands of illegal migrants stream into our vineyards. Not a single suicide bomber was among them. Still, we could never be certain whether it was our vigilance or just dumb luck that kept us safe.

~~ snip ~~

One Friday evening, as the nation debated whether George Bush or John Kerry would better keep the terrorists at bay, I came across a curious piece of theater playing out along the busiest intersection in Fresno. A group of anti-war protesters, no more than 50 by a generous count, huddled on one corner of Blackstone and Shaw, waving "Honk For Peace" signs. On the opposite corner, an equal number of evangelical Christians and right-wing Jews held up U.S. and Israeli flags and shouted "Jew haters" at the peaceniks. It didn't occur to me, at least not that first day, to stop my car and ask how a quiet vigil against the war in Iraq could be seen as an act of anti-Semitism.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: centralvalley; fresno; rally; supportourtroops
Long but interesting story. Several FReepers and several events discussed where Fresno Freepers joined forces with the Central Valley Republican Jewish Coalition against the antiwar leftists.
1 posted on 02/05/2006 2:22:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: stuart weil; Saundra Duffy; lager; gracie1; JustAmy; mtngrl@vrwc; Mama_Bear; jkphoto; ...

Ping. Thank you Stuart for the heads up!


2 posted on 02/05/2006 2:24:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

bump for later reading


3 posted on 02/05/2006 2:25:24 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: Jim Robinson

Say. Jim, did you forget something?

Like this:

http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/magazine/la-tm-hubbard6feb05,0,6520661.story?coll=la-home-magazine


4 posted on 02/05/2006 2:26:16 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

LOL. Yup.


5 posted on 02/05/2006 2:27:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

You added the link as I was posting....took me a minute to find the story on Google.


6 posted on 02/05/2006 2:27:20 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Jim Robinson
No link?

Hey Mods!

7 posted on 02/05/2006 2:30:19 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
No fair!

He fixed it 3 miliseconds after I posted...

8 posted on 02/05/2006 2:31:23 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for posting the article Jim... as a confirmation of the article I just heard Victor Davis Hansen speak at People's Church last monday evening... it was a great speech contrasting Western Civilization with other worldviews. The recent cartoon mess hadn't erupted by last monday night but VD Hansen practically predicted this and similar problems when he said that Islam is now turning back toward 8th and 9th century Islamic thought.


9 posted on 02/05/2006 2:38:07 PM PST by stand4somethin
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To: Publius6961
No link?

Hey Mods!

Indeed. I do suspect that the mods will deal quite harshly with this "Jim Robinson" fellow.

10 posted on 02/05/2006 2:43:01 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: stand4somethin
What continues to amaze me is that after viewing the images and concentrated hate from this primitive culture, everywhere, and the signs they display in reaction to cartoons, it amazes me that there are still presumably educated and rational Americans who believe absolutely that we can reason with these animals.

I can only continue wishing that a significant number of the clueless actually travel and attempt to reason with them. It's called natural selection...

11 posted on 02/05/2006 2:46:27 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Jim Robinson

I guess that this means that I will be picking up the LA Times this afternoon.


12 posted on 02/05/2006 2:52:20 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: stuart weil

Hey Stuart,

The Fresno Freepers want a tour of your farm. It looks interesting.


13 posted on 02/05/2006 2:53:19 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: stand4somethin

You are invited to join us on the first Friday of every month as we stand against Peace Fresno.


14 posted on 02/05/2006 2:54:24 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: Jim Robinson

It is long and interesting, as you said. In reading the whole thing, I saw one confused author.

He doesn't understand conservatives, even as he does a reasonable job of writing about them.


15 posted on 02/05/2006 3:09:59 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who have dementia.)
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To: Jim Robinson
..That all this could be seen and heard in the raisin capital of the world didn't strike me as unusual.

I reached the corner of Blackstone and Shaw, where the pro-war demonstrators hadn't staged a rally in months...


The tone of the article is revealing. The author seems to enjoy taking pity on the delusional "pro-war" raisin folk in Fresno. It was hard for me to read.
16 posted on 02/05/2006 3:13:17 PM PST by Blowtorch
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To: Jim Robinson
Whew! Glad none of us were mentioned.

I miss Ara. Mark is no substitute.

17 posted on 02/05/2006 3:19:36 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Gordongekko909; Jim Robinson

Obviously, an assumed name.


18 posted on 02/05/2006 3:23:38 PM PST by thelastvirgil ("When the roll is called in congress, they don't know whether to answer 'present' or 'not guilty'.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Christian Zionists?

Yeah, I'll answer to that.


19 posted on 02/05/2006 3:35:02 PM PST by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

One time I listened to the President of Peace Fresno on a local radio program... you talk about irrational dribble!!! I called in and within a few seconds had that guy so spun it wasn't funny... he ended up turning on the host (another liberal disguised as a moderate). He wanted immediate withdrawal from Iraq and Bush to be prosecuted. Haha... crazy!


20 posted on 02/05/2006 8:09:25 PM PST by stand4somethin
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To: stand4somethin
We are under the impression that Peace Fresno is being bankrolled by Micheal Moore. They close up shop at 6:30 on the dot, making it appear that they are on a time-clock. .
21 posted on 02/05/2006 8:23:15 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks Jim. Very good article.


22 posted on 02/05/2006 9:36:49 PM PST by Al Simmons ("Only those are fit to live who do not fear to die" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Al Simmons

What is 'very good' about this article?

It's a lot of local color wrapped around a very hard core liberal point of view.


23 posted on 02/06/2006 3:01:12 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hubby just pulled out a book he read once, In My Father's Name, written by Mark Arax.

It's about how Arax's father was murdered, probably by the Mafia.

So, despite his protestations to the contrary, his father subscribing to the Daily Worker and being a Unionist were not such benign historical items as this lib would have us believe, as he mentions these facts in passing in this long article that wraps all this cozy local color around a hard core anti-war and anti-Bush and anti-conservatives position in order to sell it better.

He sheds crocodile tears about the young men who died in Iraq and tries to talk their fathers out of believing in the war they died for and into hating the commander-in-chief who sent them to the war, while his own father was gunned down in Fresno in 1972, and he hasn't disavowed the communism or unionism that got his father mixed up with organized crime in some way.

The writer is a propagandist, nothing more.


24 posted on 02/06/2006 3:17:35 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
The author actually does a pretty good job (for a lib) writing about a patriotic point of view that he doesn't agree with.

A true miracle for a lib these days.

25 posted on 02/06/2006 8:04:13 AM PST by Al Simmons ("Only those are fit to live who do not fear to die" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for the ping. An intersitng article, although the author is definitely left-leaning, he is unusual in his honest writing style.


26 posted on 02/06/2006 10:44:59 AM PST by semaj (.....and by their fruit you shall know them.)
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