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Iranian Alert - February 6, 2006 - Iran says will teach attackers a lesson
Regime Change Iran ^ | 1/5/06 | freedom44

Posted on 02/06/2006 12:03:45 PM PST by freedom44


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TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will teach any attackers a "lesson that will last throughout history", a senior commander said on Sunday, reinforcing Tehran's defiant stance after being reported to the U.N. Security Council.

"We are not seeking a military confrontation, but if that happens we will give the enemy a lesson that will be remembered throughout history," Abdolrahim Moussavi, head of the joint chiefs of staff, was quoted as saying by the ISNA students news agency.

"This nation has proved its will many times to its enemies. Why do they want to test this great nation once again?" he said, addressing a meeting of troops.

Iran was reported to the U.N. Security Council on Saturday after failing to allay suspicions that it is seeking nuclear weapons. Iran denies the charge.

The United States and Israel have said they prefer diplomacy as a means to solve the dispute over Iran's atomic programme but have declined to rule out military options. Iran is armed with an unknown number of Shahab-3 ballistic missiles that could reach Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf.

A Daily Briefing of Major News Stories on Iran:


Iran tells nuke agency to remove its cameras

Lugar urges sanctions against Iran to UN

Oil prices rise on supply fears

France: Iran faces very serious consequences

US: Iran sanctions without UN vote would be legit

Inspectors due in Iran to oversee enrichment
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Iranian parliament convenes emergency session

In Iran, think Regime Change


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1 posted on 02/06/2006 12:03:46 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44

I guess we're in for another "Mother of all Battles" that will "Unleash the Gates of Hell".

It's time to clean out this festering boil on humanity.


3 posted on 02/06/2006 12:11:30 PM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful muslim...The Ultimate Oxymoron!)
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To: freedom44
For their own internal reasons they want an attack to happen, unfortunatly Bush outsourced the Iran problem to Europe and the UN and they're not cooperating.

LOL!

4 posted on 02/06/2006 12:11:54 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Pookyhead

Yep, it will be the Grandmother of all wars....


5 posted on 02/06/2006 12:12:16 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: trebb

And then Hugo Chavez said what?


6 posted on 02/06/2006 12:18:01 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pookyhead

You beat me to it.


7 posted on 02/06/2006 12:19:48 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: freedom44

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rm_bongo_1972.jpg

The president of Iran, radioactive. Man, that's gotta hurt.


8 posted on 02/06/2006 12:20:57 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: Semper Paratus
I hate to keep re-posting from an older thread, but it is important that Freepers know and understand the reasoning behind Iran's actions:

The problem is not really linked to Israel or any western nation directly, on the contraary, in a speech on November 16th, Iranian President Ahmadinejad spoke of his belief in the return of the Twelfth Imam.

One of the differences between the Sunni and Shi’ite Islam sects is that the latter, who dominate Iran and form the majority in Iraq, believe that Allah shielded or hid Muhammad al-Mahdi as the Twelfth Imam until the end of time.

Shi’ites expect the Twelfth Imam, which Jews and Christians would recognize as a messianic figure, to return to save the world when it had descended into chaos. Shi’ite orthodoxy has it that humans are powerless to encourage the Twelfth Imam to return.

However, in Iran a group called the Hojjatieh believe that humans can stir up chaos to encourage him to return. It seems that the esteemed President of Iran is a firm believer in the Hojjatieh. The Ayatollah Khomeini banned the group in the early 1980s because they rejected one of the primary commitments of the Iranian revolution: the concept of Vilayat-i Faqih (Guardianship of the Jurist). In other words, they opposed the notion of an Islamic republic because it would hinder the Twelfth Imam’s return on account of it being too just and peaceful.

Today, in addition to Ahmadinejad himself being a member, the group has connections to the holy city of Qom's ultraconservative cleric Mesbah Yazdi whom Iranians frequently refer to as the "crazed one" and the "crocodile." Four of the twenty-one new cabinet ministers are purportedly Hojjatieh members. Some reports state that cabinet ministers must sign a formal pledge of support for the Twelfth Imam.

THIS, more than anything else is the root cause of the current hijinx in Iran. As I stated before, it will get a lot more interesting as the Iranians push for worldwide chaos to invoke the return of the 12th Imam. Don't write this off as looney-tunes. Remember, no-one ever thought that they would be crazy enough to crash a plane into a building either!

Semper Intell

9 posted on 02/06/2006 12:25:06 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; Hinoki Cypress; ...
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10 posted on 02/06/2006 12:40:11 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: freedom44
We are not seeking a military confrontation

That is Iran for the first time blinking. They are scared of what their rhetoric could bring about.

11 posted on 02/06/2006 12:42:22 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
They aren't blinking, they are just puffing out their chest a little and crowing.

Hey Iran, you fought Iraq for 8 years, lost a million people, and barely managed to pull off a draw. We annihilated them in less than 3 weeks.

12 posted on 02/06/2006 12:46:06 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Trident/Delta

Thank you for the excellent comment on why AhMADinejad must be taken seriously. I can easily see how someone like him could "feel" like he's being "used" to bring on that 12th Imam. And the more chaos he can cause, the sooner that 12th Imam arrives. And what excitement it must give him to picture the 12th Imam "thanking him" for helping to bring his return to fruition.


13 posted on 02/06/2006 1:00:03 PM PST by Reborn
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To: JasonC

Yup, and we could send them all to allah without losing a man. We have the weapons you know.


14 posted on 02/06/2006 1:18:56 PM PST by refermech
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To: Reborn
BINGO! We have a winner.

the Hojjatieh is a SERIOUS threat.

WIth the devout mooselimbs drooling and slathering for their "religion" to be taken serioulsy, coupled with the Quaran dictating the establishment of a worldwide caliphate, Iran is seeing itself as a catalyst in the return of the Mahadi.

Semper Nervous

15 posted on 02/06/2006 1:40:22 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: freedom44

Iran hasn't taught anyone any lessons in quite some time i bet.


16 posted on 02/06/2006 2:26:40 PM PST by jw777
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To: Trident/Delta

I think Ahmadinejad believes the the Twelfth Iman is here now. His delusion, if that's what it is, has taken on a "real" feel. He's acting as if he knows it happening. Why would that be unless he has met the person he believes to be the one. Is that possible?


17 posted on 02/06/2006 2:41:16 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Super Bowl halftime - When groupies are rehearsed to look star-stuck, the thrill is gone.)
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To: GOPJ
The Hojjatieh have always believed that the 12th Imam walks the earth. that he is a timeless being that is being "hidden" by Allah until the appropriate level of chaos on earth is underway and the Mahadi steps forth to calm all. The Hojjatieh believe that they can stir up emough hate and discontent to force this to happen.

Semper Intell

18 posted on 02/06/2006 2:55:58 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta
The Hojjatieh have always believed that the 12th Imam walks the earth. that he is a timeless being that is being "hidden" by Allah until the appropriate level of chaos on earth is underway and the Mahadi steps forth to calm all.

Just a few more questions - is the Mahdi a human who becomes inhabited by the spirit of the 12 Iman? The Mahdi is supposed to be a direct descendant of Mohammed and have a broad nose. It sounds like the person is born, lives here and is overcome by the spirit of the Mahdi... is that close?

19 posted on 02/06/2006 3:04:31 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Super Bowl halftime - When groupies are rehearsed to look star-stuck, the thrill is gone.)
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To: Trident/Delta

Damn!


20 posted on 02/06/2006 3:16:09 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Trident/Delta

Thanks for the post!


21 posted on 02/06/2006 3:23:49 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: GOPJ
Very close. The "spirit" of the Mahdi is "secreted" into the soul of a common human. At the appropriate time, the spirit if the Mahdi will "rise" to assume the body of the "host" (yes, I KNOW it sounds like a bad episode of StarGate). The soul of the host will go to Allah, (you know, 72 Virgins et.al.)

I had deliberately left out the nose part.

What you didn't mention was the Upper Nile connection. (Popular consensus is that the Mahadi will arise as a black African. You just can't make this stuff up!) Iran has already been making quiet overatures to Zimbabwe and Chad. The Islamic presence on the dark continent has been growing diametrically.

This is going to get more and more interesting.

Semper Fi

22 posted on 02/06/2006 6:29:25 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta

They will only raise the genie of Whoopass!


23 posted on 02/06/2006 7:53:37 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty
Trite, jingoistic responses make you feel good. But, when in a conflict one looks for a win... Iran merely wants the conflict. That means the rules will change. In case you don't really understand, they WANT you to open the can. They WANT confusion, conflict and chaos. That is the key to summoning the 12th Imam. I remember an old episode of "Next Generation" where Data is playing some chess game. The other guy kept winning. Data changed his strategy. Instead of playing to win, (like in a war), He played to block or draw. The game just went on and on ......

Semper Fi

24 posted on 02/06/2006 8:12:25 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta
What you didn't mention was the Upper Nile connection.

I had never heard of that part. Is that part of the Iranian belief system? Different ME cultures have slightly different beliefs. Why did you intentionally leave out the comments about the shape of the nose?

25 posted on 02/06/2006 8:50:00 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Super Bowl halftime - When groupies are rehearsed to look star-stuck, the thrill is gone.)
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To: GOPJ
It is part of the Hojjatieh belief system. Each sect has its own views on the Mahdi. For example, the Sunnis believe that:

According to the reported sayings of the Prophet Muhammad some of the features of al-Mahdi are:

* He will be tall
* He will be fair complexioned
* His facial features will be similar to those of the Prophet Muhammad
* His character will be like that of the Prophet Muhammad
* His father's name will be Abdullah [same as Prophet Muhammad's father]
* His mother's name will be Aamina [same as Prophet Muhammad's mother]
* He will speak with a slight stutter
* He will occasionally hit his hand upon his thigh when he stutters
* His age at the time of his emergence will be forty years
* He will born in medina (literally a city or township)
* He will receive Knowledge from Allah

The Wahabbis have an altogether different view. I left out Hojjetiah features because some Freeper will grab the characteristics from one of the other sects and miss the whole point.

The primary point is the belief that if enough chaos is generated, the 12th Imam will emerge.

Semper Fi

26 posted on 02/06/2006 9:07:35 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta

We'll see what happenss. This won't be the conventional, proverbial contest of micturation..


27 posted on 02/07/2006 12:12:22 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Trident/Delta

gee, u'invested alotta energy on this-if u'r on target, gotta think NSA is ahead of u on this: they better be!


28 posted on 02/07/2006 3:47:35 AM PST by 1234 (Border control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: freedom44
To read today’s thread click here.

Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

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29 posted on 02/07/2006 8:30:55 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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