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Editorial: (Senator) Feingold (D, WI) Pins Gonzales (More Liberal Daydreaming...)
Madison.com ^ | February 6, 2006 | Uncredited Editorial

Posted on 02/06/2006 12:24:28 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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Yep. Covers all of this week's Dimowit "Talking Points" doesn't it? *Rolleyes*
1 posted on 02/06/2006 12:24:29 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Watery Tart; KRAUTMAN; reformedliberal; Mygirlsmom; codercpc; s2baccha; ozaukeemom; PjhCPA; ...

"Feingold All In A Dither" Ping! ;)


2 posted on 02/06/2006 12:25:19 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
he responded by saying "it's not the policy or the agenda of this president to authorize actions that would be in contravention of our criminal statutes" - a statement that appears to have been a lie.

Only if the activity in question was criminal. Which is hardly clear enough to claim here.

3 posted on 02/06/2006 12:27:09 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Feingold has really fallen off the deepend and lost his way.


4 posted on 02/06/2006 12:28:02 PM PST by desertlily
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm always impressed with fair and balanced articles that don't draw conclusions before the facts are in and don't use character assassination and demonization tactics against the subjects of their article.

This editorial fails on every count....worthless piece of trash.


5 posted on 02/06/2006 12:31:32 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: desertlily
And again, another idjit blinded by "BushHate" who is so out of touch with the American people that the light from Earth won't reach them for a quarter of a million years. Let them sqwalk. They're going to end up looking like Boxer, Kennedy and company when this round is all over.
6 posted on 02/06/2006 12:35:41 PM PST by 50sDad (Racist: Anyone who is winning an argument with a Liberal.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Congress had best be reading the Constitution, or have someone that can read, read it to them.

I believe they will find out that the President of the United States is the Commander in Chief and runs the war.

The Congress may pay for it, or not, and they get to give out a few medals, if they behave themselves.





7 posted on 02/06/2006 12:36:17 PM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
he specifically asked if Gonzales felt the Bush administration had the authority to authorize warrantless wiretaps in violation of statutory prohibitions. According to the transcript of the exchange, the nominee attempted to avoid answering by dismissing it as "hypothetical."

If I was asked a question which regarded a TS/SCI program the Senator was not authorized to know about, I would give the same sort of answer.

The real question is whether the Senator received classified information he was not authorized to have when he asked this line of questioning. It seems like a setup in an open session of the Senate.

8 posted on 02/06/2006 12:56:58 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: G.Mason
Congress had best be reading the Constitution, or have someone that can read, read it to them. I believe they will find out that the President of the United States is the Commander in Chief and runs the war. The Congress may pay for it, or not, and they get to give out a few medals, if they behave themselves.

And being commander in chief gives the President the right to violate the law?
9 posted on 02/06/2006 1:04:03 PM PST by Boston Republican
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Oh, Feingold's got us now. Gonzales promised that congress would be informed before they did anything like the NSA wiretap stuff, and ...

Oh wait. Congress WAS informed about this. Well, we can forgive Feingold, it's a secret program and only the intelligence committees were told, so since....

Oh wait. Feingold IS on those committees. So he should have already known about this program.

I wonder, did Feingold go to Rockefeller last year and ask HIM if there was any program in place? Did Rockefeller "lie" to him?


10 posted on 02/06/2006 1:04:35 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Oh wait. Congress WAS informed about this

Why the heck do so many of my fellow "conservatives" support this?
11 posted on 02/06/2006 1:05:51 PM PST by Boston Republican
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
This sounds like Moonbat Breaking News!

Obviously, this spells the 6,975th official End of the Regime!!

12 posted on 02/06/2006 1:07:26 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: xzins

What else do you expect from the 'Peoples Republic of Madison,' otherwise known as 'San Fransico of the Midwest.'

Usless arguments having to do with criminal law and domestic wire taps, which have nothing to do with operations directed at foreign enemies, and are not 'wire taps' at all.


13 posted on 02/06/2006 1:09:27 PM PST by Wisc Paul
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Geeeze, sleeze...it sounds as though the editorial writer has a real "Love Jones" for the senator who believed good budget money should be spent on the study of bovine flatulence rather than on armor for our troops.

What an idiot!

14 posted on 02/06/2006 1:09:48 PM PST by meandog (For all lurking Mooo-slew-ems: Sahada: "There is no Satan but "Allah" and Mohammad is his pig!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It boggles the mind how these lo-life senators have completely forgotten what took place on 9/11!! God bless the President for taking it upon himself to do the right thing. That's what we elected him for.


15 posted on 02/06/2006 1:12:45 PM PST by KenmcG414 (wHAT'ST)
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To: Boston Republican
You too need an education.

Get back to me when the dawn comes.

Hint ... read some U.S. history. Preferably about the Civil War, and the Second World War, and the presidential authority in conducting those wars.

Also The Clintoon administrations holdings and pronouncements on presidential authority as it pertains to the War Powers Act.

Now out, damn spot!





16 posted on 02/06/2006 1:12:45 PM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Boston Republican
There is no section in our constitution's system of checks and balances that gives the legislative branch of government powers to restrict the ability of the commander-in-chief to gather intelligence on the actions of our enemies during wartime.

In addition to that, international electronic communications have been fair game for the intelligence gathering agencies of every nation on earth since the dawn of international electronic communications.

17 posted on 02/06/2006 1:13:52 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: G.Mason

Uhm, pardon me, but don't take that lip with me when YOU clearly can't grasp the SIMPLEST FACT OF ALL about US History, which is: THE FISA law didn't exist during the Civil War and World War II. FISA also didn't cover physical searches when Clinton performed warrantless physical searches.

Any idiot can see that this was illegal. Yeah, there were slaves during the civl war too! But, guess what, NOW SLAVERY IS ILLEGAL!


18 posted on 02/06/2006 1:52:51 PM PST by Boston Republican
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To: dead

It's the supreme court's job to determine whether the FISA law is unconstitutional. As it stands now, the president very clearly BROKE that law.


19 posted on 02/06/2006 1:54:33 PM PST by Boston Republican
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To: Boston Republican

Powerline has listed about 5 various cases that determined that eavesdropping on the enemy's communications is a constitutional right of the POTUS.

There is no case law that finds the President must seek a warrant; there are several cases that have determined he does not.

Congress can not infringe on the inheirant rights of either of the other branches of government.

Suppose Congress passed a law that required the President to not grant a pardon unless it was first reviewed by a special secret "pardon court" that made sure it was proper. Such a law would be an unconstitutional infringement on the right of the President to grant pardons, and no law passed by Congress can do that. So if the President then issued a pardon without following that "pardon court" process, would he be acting above the law? Nope.

The FISA law centers on domestically intercepted communications between a criminal suspect within the US. Many (if not all) of these intercepted Al Quada communications are not even subject to review by the FISA court because the court has no jurisdiction. The POTUS would not need a court warrant to intercept those electronic communications that happen to terminate into the US any more than a commander in Iraq would need a court order before he could examine the cell phone or laptop contents of a captured enemy combatant.

Those that ask "Why didn't he go to the FISA court anyway, because he could get approval up to 72 hrs?" might as well ask why he didn't go to, say, the Ohio Supreme court or some other body who also had no authority to decide the matter. The merits of the situation does not apply to FISA.


20 posted on 02/06/2006 1:59:42 PM PST by leftcoaster
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