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Prescription for Tolerance: Is Moral Judgment a Mental Disorder?
Breakpoint ^ | 2 Feb 2006 | Allan Dobras

Posted on 02/07/2006 8:28:20 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

It was bound to happen. In the span of a single generation, we have seen the practice of sodomy evolve from a bizarre sexual behavior to a normative alternative lifestyle; from illegality to a constitutional right; from the closet to the boardroom; from tolerance to promotion; and lastly, from the bathhouse to the marriage altar. The next step, which is already in process, is reminiscent of a Soviet-style “reeducation” program.

According to a December 10, 2005, Washington Post article, “Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness,” it seems there is a serious move afoot to formally designate those who are repulsed by homosexual practice as suffering from a pathological neurosis—“homophobia.” In other words, a person who views the legitimization of homosexuality as sinful, immoral, or destructive to society may have a mental disorder!

That analysis was offered by a number of mental health professionals, including UCLA psychology professor Edward Dunbar, who equates so-called homophobia with racial bias and suggests the “disorder” should be included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

According to Professor Dunbar, “When I see someone who won’t see a physician because they’re Jewish, or who can’t sit in a restaurant because there are Asians, or feels threatened by homosexuals in the workplace, the party line in mental health says, ‘This is not our problem.’ If it’s not our problem, whose problem is it?”

Gary Belkin, deputy chief of psychiatry at New York’s Bellevue Hospital, said “Psychiatrists who are uneasy with including something like this in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual need to get used to the fact that the whole manual reflects social context. That is true of depression on down. Pathological bias is no more or less scientific than major depression.” Dr. Belkin plans to conduct a study on pathological bias among patients at his hospital.

Other psychiatrists have gone a step further and suggested that persons who exhibit “homophobia” may need to be treated with anti-psychotic medications, with a program already implemented within the California Department of Corrections.

Shama Chaiken, divisional chief psychologist for the department, said, “We treat racism and homophobia as delusional disorders. Treatment with anti-psychotics does work to reduce these prejudices.”

Alvin F. Poussaint, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, says that persons with such pathological biases are “delusional” and believes their problems should be treated with psychiatry. “They imagine people are going to do all kinds of bad things and hurt them, and feel they have to do something to protect themselves. When they reach that stage, they are very impaired. . . . They can’t work and function; they can’t hold a job. They would benefit from treatment of some type, particularly medication.” (Emphasis added)

A voice of “dissent” was heard from psychiatrist and author Sally Satel, who opined that hate-crime perpetrators could evade responsibility by claiming they suffered from a mental illness: “I think it’s absurd. You could use it as a defense [in court].”

Brokeback Mountain, the homosexual “love story” between two cowboys has served as a catalyst to bring the issue of “homophobia” as a neurosis before the public. Irrespective of the fact that Hollywood and liberal elites are thrilled by the film and have honored it with a number of awards, moviegoers have generally been turned off by the portrayal of the noble American cowboy as gay. Many theaters are refusing to show the film, prompting co-star Heath Ledger to claim the cancellations are “akin to racism.” He added:

"I heard a while ago that West Virginia was going to ban it. But that’s a state that was lynching people only 25 years ago, so that’s to be expected. . . . Personally, I don’t think the movie is [controversial] but I think maybe the Mormons in Utah do. I think it’s hilarious and very immature of a society—if two people are loving. I think we should be more concerned if two people express anger in love, than love."

The premise that deep opposition to homosexual practice is a mental disorder appears prominently in columnist Dru Sefton’s examination of the negative reaction to the film in her January 6 column. The article features the “expert” opinions of several researchers who see aversion to the film as “homophobia” and offers a good example of the homosexual propaganda machine at work.

Dr. Dean Hamer, a National Institutes of Health (NIH) researcher said to be investigating homophobia, was described as “a scientist who discovered genetic links to sexuality.” He commented, “It does seem to be almost culturally universal that heterosexual men can have a deep repulsion to overt homosexuality, but there is no study I know of to ascertain whether this is a biologically based trait.”

Actually, Dr. Hamer is a homosexual activist who has been searching unsuccessfully for a genetic link to homosexuality for many years. In 1993 he published some study results on gene position Xq28 that he alleged showed a genetic link to homosexuality. The study was widely reported in the press and touted as discovery of a “gay gene.”

However, his discovery did not hold up to scientific scrutiny. A much larger study by researchers George Rice and others concluded, “Our data do not support the presence of a gene of large effect influencing sexual orientation at position Xq28.” Reportedly, Dr. Hamer was later investigated by the NIH on charges of scientific fraud.

Dr. Simon LeVay, also said to be investigating homophobia, agreed with Dr. Hamer. “From a neurobiological basis, I just don’t think this response has been researched at that level, although it’s something that should be.”

Dr. LeVay is the author of the 1991 study, “A Difference in the Hypothalamic Structure Between Heterosexual and Homosexual Men.” The study, which was reported to have identified a physiological difference between gay and straight men, was later proved to be bogus. Dr. LeVay himself admitted, “I did not prove that homosexuality was genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn’t show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work.”

Dr. George Weinberg, a New York City psychologist and researcher, commented that the aversion to Brokeback Mountain is “definitely homophobia.” He said the film is “the idea of one man’s adoration for another. A love affair more deep and lasting and romantic than with their wives.” He advised that those who are uneasy about the film “first understand you have this problem. At least by acknowledging it, that’s a start. It’s like saying, ‘I have a fear of heights.’”

In reality it is not unusual, nor is it immoral, for a man to have a deep and affectionate bond with another man, but not the erotic relationship described by Dr. Weinberg. As a case in point, men often experience a sacrificial, moral love among comrades in arms, which is called agape love. The greatest example of such love was the sacrificial death of Jesus on the cross: “For God so agapao the world, He gave His only begotten Son . . .”

Plainly, it is part of the gay rights strategy to portray homosexuality as “normal” and to marginalize—and even criminalize—the views of those who might expressly disagree. Brokeback Mountain has provided an opportunity for activists to take the debate over homosexuality to a new level and suggest that aversion to the practice may be a neurosis.

Thus, in one generation homosexuality has been removed from the DSM as a sexual disorder, and persons who find it abnormal and repulsive have been offered up in its place.

Notwithstanding, it is well established that the practice is repulsive, self-destructive, and corrosive to society, as both sacred and secular sources have emphatically stated for the last several thousand years. The fact that it is repulsive is both a bane and advantage to the homosexual rights movement. Because the topic is so unseemly, there is scant open discussion of homosexuality, and the public is understandably reluctant to seek out information on the subject. (For a peek through the window of reality of the homosexual lifestyle, visit gayhealth.com.)

It is an arrogant ploy on the part of gay activists to insinuate that people who find homosexual acts to be repulsive may be mentally disturbed. However, the good news is that such persons would not have to worry about being arrested under “hate crimes” statutes for voicing negative opinions about the lifestyle—they’re simply crazy.

Allan Dobras is a freelance writer on religious and cultural issues and an electronics engineer. He lives in Springfield, Virginia.


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Dr. George Weinberg, a New York City psychologist and researcher, commented that the aversion to Brokeback Mountain is “definitely homophobia.” He said the film is “the idea of one man’s adoration for another. A love affair more deep and lasting and romantic than with their wives.” He advised that those who are uneasy about the film “first understand you have this problem. At least by acknowledging it, that’s a start. It’s like saying, ‘I have a fear of heights.’”

So...if I don't want to pay $10 to watch two guys humping, I'm homophobic and don't love my wife enough. If I don't want to watch hetero porn, does that mean I am heterophobic and don't love my wife enough? Geez, these days some college degrees might as well be from a Crackerjack box. (Credit to my wife for pointing out the homo/heterophobic fallacy in this guy's already silly reasoning.)

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1 posted on 02/07/2006 8:28:21 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 02/07/2006 8:29:05 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Well, at least we are starting to discuss this. Up til now I have felt as if the homo activists were intent on ramming this up our collective asses.


3 posted on 02/07/2006 8:39:47 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
...the whole manual reflects social context.

She's right you know. The DSM is a political document not a scientific one. Just another reason why these modern day witch-doctors and the poison potions they prescribe should be completely avoided.
4 posted on 02/07/2006 8:40:36 AM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: Mr. Silverback
...prompting co-star Heath Ledger to claim the cancellations are “akin to racism.” He added: "I heard a while ago that West Virginia was going to ban it. But that’s a state that was lynching people only 25 years ago, so that’s to be expected. . . . Personally, I don’t think the movie is [controversial] but I think maybe the Mormons in Utah do. I think it’s hilarious and very immature of a society—if two people are loving. I think we should be more concerned if two people express anger in love, than love."

I didn't realize lynching was such a big problem in 1980. Inspired by the election of Reagan no doubt.

5 posted on 02/07/2006 8:42:25 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Meadows Place, TX-"Tom DeLay Country")
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To: Mr. Silverback

The original research dealt with people who could not function in ordinary life, could not use the elevator, pick up a newspaper, or buy food because they feared it might have been contaminated by homosexuals. I would guess this to be a particular manifestation of OCD, rather than a disorder that had its origin in a fear of homosexuals.

They might want to rethink this, if we start claiming homophobia is a disability and they can't discriminate against homophobes.

Mrs VS


6 posted on 02/07/2006 8:49:35 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Mr. Silverback
Yep. Funny how the people that like to refer to themselves as "progressives" have such regressive ideas.
7 posted on 02/07/2006 8:50:30 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Mr. Silverback; Clint N. Suhks
...from the bathhouse to the marriage altar.

I've no doubt that most of them will promptly head from the marriage altar right back into the bathhouse for the Reception.

8 posted on 02/07/2006 8:52:34 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Mr. Silverback

Well I think a person is at least morally corrupt -- in some cases also mentally ill -- if they are not repulsed by homosexuality. So there! Oh healthy conscience where art thou? No one seems to sport those these days.


9 posted on 02/07/2006 8:53:45 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Liberalism is a mental disease.


10 posted on 02/07/2006 8:54:03 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

And I had no idea that one state could ban a movie, either!


11 posted on 02/07/2006 8:54:15 AM PST by Calico Cat
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To: Sans-Culotte
I heard a while ago that West Virginia was going to ban it. But that’s a state that was lynching people only 25 years ago, so that’s to be expected. . . .

Well, DUH. They are still represented in the Senate by a Klan member...

12 posted on 02/07/2006 8:59:23 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: MillerCreek

Ping.


13 posted on 02/07/2006 9:00:46 AM PST by Miss Maam
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According to a December 10, 2005, Washington Post article, “Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness,” it seems there is a serious move afoot to formally designate those who are repulsed by homosexual practice as suffering from a pathological neurosis—“homophobia.” In other words, a person who views the legitimization of homosexuality as sinful, immoral, or destructive to society may have a mental disorder!

That analysis was offered by a number of mental health professionals, including UCLA psychology professor Edward Dunbar, who equates so-called homophobia with racial bias and suggests the “disorder” should be included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

Celebration of Diversity bump!

14 posted on 02/07/2006 9:00:49 AM PST by A. Pole (Joanne Senier-LaBarre: "We Wish You a Swinging Holiday!")
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To: Mr. Silverback

If I have a mental illness, when does the government start sending me my check?


15 posted on 02/07/2006 9:00:52 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
that’s a state that was lynching people only 25 years ago,

Actors. Is there anything they don't know?
16 posted on 02/07/2006 9:01:25 AM PST by kenth
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To: Mr. Silverback

Turned the tables, eh? Homosexuality has gone from being a mental disorder, to not wanting anything to do with it being a mental disorder.

Crazy.


17 posted on 02/07/2006 9:02:06 AM PST by sandbar
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To: Mr. Silverback
You know, we could make this work in our favor...If we are suffering from a mental illness, wouldn't we be entitled to compensation? I mean, they can't make us work for a livng if they decide we must all be sickos, can they?

(oh yeah, sarcasm off now)

18 posted on 02/07/2006 9:06:45 AM PST by Desert_Girl (A scar is what happens when the world is made flesh)
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To: Mr. Silverback

>>>It does seem to be almost culturally universal that heterosexual men can have a deep repulsion to overt homosexuality, but there is no study I know of to ascertain whether this is a biologically based trait.”>>>

MEN? I thought I was going to throw up when Liam Neesom unexpectedly frenched that guy in Kinsey. I keep asking people, ok, so we KNOW they were doing 'stuff' in Brokeback Mountain, is it AUDIBLE? When I heard it was I said, nope, that's it. I would be physically repulsed by hearing two guys going at it. And I'm a pretty openminded woman who doesn't care if two people are gay. I just don't want to hear it/see it. Doesn't make me homophobic, and don't really care if it does.

So all this time I've heard gays say "It makes us just as sick to see two hetero's going at it", does that mean they have this same disorder?


19 posted on 02/07/2006 9:06:53 AM PST by sandbar
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To: Mr. Silverback

bump


20 posted on 02/07/2006 9:09:30 AM PST by VOA
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein

Exactly, yes, yes ! Can't be said enough ! Psychiatry is based on diagnosing deviance to cultural mores. We all know those mores shift over time - what is prohibited today may not be in another few decades.

While we think the muslims rioting over cartoons shows serious mental instability, they don't.

Only a few short decades ago, being homosexual was a mental disorder. Now the heteros are a mental disorder.

Before the Civil War, anyone who tried to educate their slaves was considered demented.

The Kennedy's (Joe and Rose) gane their daughter Rose a lobotomy because she was "different" from the rest of them.

As the joke goes, "Everyone's crazy but thee and me, and sometimes I worry about thee."

Anyone who goes to these charlatins is seriously risking their life and freedoms. Their agenda is to find everyone suffering from a mental disorder so they can reap vast fees from treating us.


21 posted on 02/07/2006 9:10:05 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Psychology is not a science.


22 posted on 02/07/2006 9:10:34 AM PST by Technocrat
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To: Mr. Silverback

Liberalism is a mental disorder.


23 posted on 02/07/2006 9:14:11 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: Mr. Silverback
“They imagine people are going to do all kinds of bad things and hurt them, and feel they have to do something to protect themselves. When they reach that stage, they are very impaired. . . . They can’t work and function; they can’t hold a job. They would benefit from treatment of some type, particularly medication.”

There is already a disorder in the DSM that this describes. It's called paranoia and it has nothing to do with homophobia!
24 posted on 02/07/2006 9:20:55 AM PST by conservatrice
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
AMEN to that!

So much is this article is chilling to say the least. and what is this??

"Other psychiatrists have gone a step further and suggested that persons who exhibit “homophobia” may need to be treated with anti-psychotic medications, with a program already implemented within the California Department of Corrections."

An inmate who fights back in CA prisons, is a homophobe and put on meds???

Avoid anyone affiliated with APA, I would think! Psychiatry-phobe!! And all the meds that go along with it!
25 posted on 02/07/2006 9:27:17 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
In reality it is not unusual, nor is it immoral, for a man to have a deep and affectionate bond with another man, but not the erotic relationship described by Dr. Weinberg. As a case in point, men often experience a sacrificial, moral love among comrades in arms, which is called agape love. The greatest example of such love was the sacrificial death of Jesus on the cross: “For God so agapao the world, He gave His only begotten Son . . .”




Homosexual activity has absolutely NO correlation to agape love!! Zip, Zilch, Nada.
26 posted on 02/07/2006 9:29:09 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Sans-Culotte
No doubt Ledger's career is in the toilet. And I thought all this time that brokebutt mounting was such a success? bwahahahaha

I read a column somewhere recently, where one of the GLAD women stated that even her very liberal friends were "reluctant" to see this film, she argued about it with them endlessly, then finally asked them a question. (Get this) She asked them "what do you think is going to happen to you if you see it, for cripes sake"

All I could do is laugh. Apparently this woman thinks people are afraid some unknown thing is going to happen to them, if they see it. Too funny!!! It couldn't possibly be they aren't willing to pay to see a movie they don't want to see, doesn't interest them, or repulses them. Imagine, a thinking that goes along with the idea that one can pay to see any movie of their choice???

This agenda gets more and more boldly bizarre by the minute!
27 posted on 02/07/2006 9:36:14 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

There is a sizable group who have a demonstrated bias against what they call breeders, and not all among this group are homosexual; there are scattered pockets (often in prisons, jails and inner-city neighborhoods) of those who have a professed distrust of white people generally and show this by disorderly behavior in the form of riots, looting and mayhem; there are honored and recognized groups who maintain that all men are pigs, regardless of race or ethnic identification; and then there are those whose very livelihood depends on the continued friction among the sexes, the races, the ethnics and the classes.

Who is immune?


28 posted on 02/07/2006 9:57:25 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

Exactly. If homophobia is a disorder, then it's also a disability under the law. Homophobes' jobs should be protected, and they might also be eligible for disability benefits. An interesting turn of events.


29 posted on 02/07/2006 10:40:42 AM PST by joylyn
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30 posted on 02/07/2006 10:51:48 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Mr. Silverback
In other words, a person who views the legitimization of homosexuality as sinful, immoral, or destructive to society may have a mental disorder!

Good! This may FINALLY wake people up to the scam which is modern psychology.

31 posted on 02/07/2006 10:58:01 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: FormerLib
I've no doubt that most of them will promptly head from the marriage altar right back into the bathhouse for the Reception.

I like to ask sodomite-"marriage" advocates how these "marriages" are consumated.

32 posted on 02/07/2006 11:00:00 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Mr. Silverback
THIS statement by the "instructor of psychology" ILLUSRATES and REPRESENTS A DISTURBED MIND:

("...psychology professor Edward Dunbar, who equates so-called homophobia with racial bias and suggests the “disorder” should be included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

"According to Professor Dunbar, “When I see someone who won’t see a physician because they’re Jewish, or who can’t sit in a restaurant because there are Asians, or feels threatened by homosexuals in the workplace, the party line in mental health says, ‘This is not our problem.’ If it’s not our problem, whose problem is it?

NOTE that the "instructor of psychology" makes an irrational and unreasonable (question as to why here becauase that's the query as to this person's mental disturbance) leap from discussing "race" related aversions to STATING THAT PEOPLE "FEAR" or experience "fear" ("in the workplace") "of homosexuals."

What he's doing is "leading" by disturbed reasoning the listener/reader (and hapless students, unfortunately) into concluding that if and when someone chooses to sit elsewhere or even work/purchase/shop/consume/loiter/entertain/whatever in whatever chosen location for whatever reason that they're displaying "fear" if and when someone else in a rejected proximinity is or may be "homosexual."

By this mentally ill perspective by this "professor of psychology," personal choice and personal evaluations when and if they can be equated by him to be in reference to "homosexuals" (according to this disturbed "instructor") is motivated by "fear."

Any sound psychiatrist should readily recognize this man's projections upon the vast generalities of "all" human beings otherwise. Without discussing and at length, with any one individual as to their thought and emotional process and mental capacity and functional abilities, THERE IS NO REASONABLE, SANE WAY that anyone else, be it "professor" or "psychologist," can EVER allege what anyone else's emotions in these specifics may be and are.

This fellow is mentally ill. As are his postulations and presumptions.

33 posted on 02/07/2006 11:03:54 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Mr. Silverback

And, any sound psychiatrist will readily recognize the privilege and reasonableness of individual religious beliefs within a context of mental wellness.

To reject homosexuality based upon personal beliefs, or even preferences, does not inherently define "fear" nor even suggest "fear of homosexuality."

It's a baseless and DISTURBED irrational suggestion and affirms to me that this entire line of suggestion by the "instructor" and similar represents A CULTURAL IMPOSITION by DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS.

If and when anyone chooses to work, sit, position at what table in what restaurant or workplace, to seek appropriate accommodations is not unreasonable. To reject homosexuality on a behavioral, moral and spiritual basis is certainly an individual option and no one should for even a minute be coerced nor intimidated into concluding that by exercising personal preferences is "wrong."

That very process -- introducing a negative characteristic, such as "fear" to the self awareness of anyone else -- is the FUNCTIONAL PROCESS BY WHICH HOMOSEXUALS PREDATE UPON OTHERS.

Ask any child or even vulnerable adult who has been predated upon by homosexual (or even heterosexual, to an extent) molestation and they'll say that they were told that their hesitation and initial rejections of the suggested behaviors represented something "bad" and that to accept and comply was "not wrong."

It's such abusive theorizing and strategy by this "instructor". He's laying the groundwork to define as "good" and "acceptable" homosexuality "in the workplace" when, in fact, homosexuality "in the workplace" is entirely inappropriate unless one's workplace is the porn industry or some homosexual-commerce of some sort.

People SHOULD, in fact, "fear" homosexuality "in the workplace" just as they should "fear" any "workplace" that requires or consists of sexuality of any sort.

This "instructor" is incompetent both as an educator and as a "psychologist" and should be in the care of a psychiatrist before he does any further harms to humankind.


34 posted on 02/07/2006 11:15:03 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: ClaireSolt
Well, at least we are starting to discuss this. Up til now I have felt as if the homo activists were intent on ramming this up our collective asses.

Oy, I wish you hadn't put it that way...

BTW, given the subject matter, shouldn't Heath Ledger have gotten nominated for Best Actress?

35 posted on 02/07/2006 12:08:48 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
They might want to rethink this, if we start claiming homophobia is a disability and they can't discriminate against homophobes.

Great point. Imagine the first ADA lawsuit..."So what if I think gays shouldn't get married! You have to hire me!"

36 posted on 02/07/2006 12:23:34 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: conservatrice
There is already a disorder in the DSM that this describes. It's called paranoia and it has nothing to do with homophobia!

Bingo!

37 posted on 02/07/2006 12:27:19 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Mr. Silverback
They really want to criminalize conservatives. To the Left, we're the ones who are nuts. Talk about living in a parallel universe!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

38 posted on 02/07/2006 12:45:44 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: gidget7
Homosexual activity has absolutely NO correlation to agape love!! Zip, Zilch, Nada.

No offense, but how in the world did you get the idea that the author was connecting homosexuality and agape love? He is saying virtually the opposite.

39 posted on 02/07/2006 12:46:05 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
...the whole manual reflects social context.

She's right you know. The DSM is a political document not a scientific one. Just another reason why these modern day witch-doctors and the poison potions they prescribe should be completely avoided.

Exactly right, and I, for one, am quite glad that one of these snakeoilers has actually confessed to the whole scam.

40 posted on 02/07/2006 2:17:09 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: gidget7
Homosexual activity has absolutely NO correlation to agape love!! Zip, Zilch, Nada.

Right on target -bullseye!

;-)

41 posted on 02/07/2006 2:35:08 PM PST by DBeers ()
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To: Mr. Silverback
No offense, but how in the world did you get the idea that the author was connecting homosexuality and agape love? He is saying virtually the opposite.

I got the impression that she was agreeing with specificity as to the author's general conclusion...

42 posted on 02/07/2006 2:39:07 PM PST by DBeers ()
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To: Mr. Silverback
...a person who views the legitimization of homosexuality as sinful, immoral, or destructive to society may have a mental disorder!

Or he may have studied history.

43 posted on 02/07/2006 3:23:32 PM PST by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Mr. Silverback
It is interesting to watch people pretend that homosexuality did not exist until the 1960's.

These people should learn about the ancient Greeks and Romans.

44 posted on 02/07/2006 4:11:50 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
These people should learn about the ancient Greeks and Romans.

"these people" really could care less! Try DU if you wish to continue your liberal debate...

45 posted on 02/07/2006 4:17:44 PM PST by DBeers ()
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To: DBeers
"these people" really could care less! Try DU if you wish to continue your liberal debate...

To go into more detail, by "these people", I mean those people who willing choose to remain ignorant about history.

I hope you don't include yourself in that group.

46 posted on 02/07/2006 4:20:58 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
I hope you don't include yourself in that group.

I include myself in the group opposed to the liberal talking points you consistently post in support of the homosexualization of society...

47 posted on 02/07/2006 4:23:22 PM PST by DBeers ()
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To: Mr. Silverback
Dr. LeVay

Any relation to the founder of the Church of Satan?

48 posted on 02/07/2006 4:23:36 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 49-54)
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To: DBeers
I include myself in the group opposed to the liberal talking points you consistently post in support of the homosexualization of society...

If you blindly oppose anything that you don't like you will become no better than those anti-Bush lunatics at the DNC.

49 posted on 02/07/2006 4:30:07 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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Chuck Colson's editorial on the Washington Post's article; “Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness,”

50 posted on 02/07/2006 7:34:23 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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