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Refs made it an 'Extra Lame' bowl
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/258583_miller07.html ^

Posted on 02/07/2006 4:55:05 PM PST by bikepacker67

GOT SCREWED, USA -- Complaining about officiating is a time-honored sports tradition. It's much easier to believe your team got screwed than it got whupped because anger is more manageable than sadness.

It's sour grapes, plain and simple.

But, America, please forgive Seahawks fans if they sound a little bitter and paranoid after the rest of the country got its sweet, little fairy tale with Jerome Bettis winning Super Bowl XL in his hometown of Detroit.

It just seems a bit too tidy, considering how things went down.

Here's the rub: No intelligent person, and that includes Pittsburgh fans, watched the Steelers 21-10 "victory" and believed it was well-officiated. Period.

And every -- EVERY -- call went against the Seahawks.

Seahawks fans promise to stop being paranoid just as soon as the NFL proves it isn't out to get them.

The Seahawks, who were tied for second-fewest penalties in the NFL this year, were flagged seven times for 70 yards. Three were critical. Two were dubious. Another flag was so stupid the official explanation didn't actually make any sense.

As for head linesman Mark Hittner's oh-what-the-hell delayed touchdown call on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's 1-yard touchdown dive? Think the officials want that tape taken to the FBI crime lab?

The Steelers, who were tied for sixth-fewest penalties this year, suffered just three horrible hankies for 20 yards. Two were false starts on their first possession. The third was offensive pass interference on rookie tight end Heath Miller deep in Seattle territory in the second quarter. That call will inspire no wringing of hands, even from Miller.

Thereafter, apparently, the Steelers felt guilty and decided not to break the rules for the next 35 minutes. Jerome probably wanted it that way.

Apoplectic Seahawks fans are not alone. ESPN.com's Michael Smith pointed this out Monday in a story ripping the officials: "The Seahawks lost 161 yards to penalties when you combine the penalty yards (70) and the plays the flags wiped out (91). By halftime alone, when it trailed 7-3, Seattle had had 73 hard-earned yards and a touchdown eliminated."

Let's rewind.

Matt Hasselbeck hits Darrell Jackson for a 16-yard touchdown pass for a 7-zip lead?

Nope. The incidental contact that occurs on nearly every NFL passing play was, actually, offensive interference -- at least the officials decided so after safety Chris Hope stomped and huffed and demanded a flag, perhaps insisting that Jerome wanted it that way.

Beleaguered tight end Jerramy Stevens makes a spectacular catch inside the Steelers 2-yard line setting up what surely would have been a Shaun Alexander touchdown run and 17-14 Seahawks lead early in the fourth quarter?

Nope. Seems that offensive tackle Sean Locklear's incidental hooking (which occurs on nearly every NFL play from scrimmage) on his block of Clark Haggans (who was offside) was too dastardly to ignore.

Maybe the officials were calling the game tightly.

Nope. Only two plays later, Steelers linebacker Joey Porter used an illegal "horse collar" tackle on Alexander, and the officials decided to let it slide, even though that would have transformed a third-and-18 on the Steelers 34 to a first down on their 19.

"Penalties, as much as anything, were the story of the game," Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren said. "That's unfortunate. And that might be the first time I've said that in my life."

Here's the comic relief.

After the no-call on the horse collar, Hasselbeck tossed a critical interception to cornerback Ike Taylor. Hasselbeck then, apparently, forgot which team he plays for and tried to throw a block in order to spring Taylor. Only he threw a "low block," according to the game's official book.

So not only does he toss a pick and then try to block for an opposing player, but he also gets called for a 15-yard penalty.

Most folks would figure that Hasselbeck was trying to TACKLE Taylor. Seeing Hasselbeck is a quarterback lacking tackling skills, he went low. But the officials decided it was a block. Only Hasselbeck was credited with a tackle on the play.

(The official explanation is he went low on a guy trying to block him, which is against the rules on a change of possession. But the fact that he made the tackle erases, at least for a reasonable person, his potential motivation based on the result. It was a tackle.)

Like we said: Stupid.

Steelers fans should be angry, too. For one, they know how this feels, see their playoff game vs. Indianapolis, when they were the interlopers ruining the heartwarming tale.

Moreover, the execrable officiating cheapens their championship because it's what folks are talking about now, not the glory of Bettis.

Is all this an accusation -- J'Accuse! -- like Porter's ranting about the terrible officiating in the Indianapolis game?

Yes. No. Who knows?

It's just too bad -- for everyone -- that the officials made sure Super Bowl XL wasn't "Extra Large," as the joke went, but "Extremely Lame."


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1 posted on 02/07/2006 4:55:07 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67
Steelers fans should be angry, too. For one, they know how this feels, see their playoff game vs. Indianapolis, when they were the interlopers ruining the heartwarming tale.

Moreover, the execrable officiating cheapens their championship because it's what folks are talking about now, not the glory of Bettis.

Forever Tainted.

2 posted on 02/07/2006 4:57:14 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67

The only reason the nFL apologized for the reversal of the Palamalu interception in the Indy game was because Pittsburg still won.

Don't expect similar admissions about the bad calls in this game.


3 posted on 02/07/2006 5:01:03 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: bikepacker67

Every professional football player should get a $40,000 per year salary. Unless their team wins the superbowl. In that case, they should get $100,000,000 for each member of the team. Then we'd see some real competition.


4 posted on 02/07/2006 5:01:05 PM PST by mysterio
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To: bikepacker67

I guess the referees threw those interceptions too, and managed the end of regulation time for Seattle too.

Scoreboard.


5 posted on 02/07/2006 5:01:35 PM PST by Christian4Bush (More than 3000 people lost their "civil liberties" on September 11, 2001.)
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To: bikepacker67
I'm not a Steelers fan; in fact, I wanted the Seahawks to win.

I thought the "disputed" calls were all correct, and that Seattle failed to capitalize when it counted.

6 posted on 02/07/2006 5:02:07 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: bikepacker67

We had a great thread about this subject yesterday.

My take. The officials were outrageously bad, but when the time came, Pittsburgh came through.

Teams have to overcome this stuff, but sometimes it is impossible. You know like the tuck rule! Seattle could have overcome, but alas, we all will have to listen to the loud mouth Steelers for a year.

I'll never forget the Patriots telling the Steelers to "cancel those reservations" back in 2001 after they beat them in the AFC Championship game.

The Steelers are a trash talking team, but they played good when it counted, and they did not call the bad penalties.


7 posted on 02/07/2006 5:02:20 PM PST by Radix (I really love the liberals they put the FUN in funerals.)
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To: bikepacker67
I agree that the ref's were the MVPs for the Steeler's, but I'm not confident that even without the bad calls that the Seahawks would have won. I'm a Seahawks fan (at least when the 49ers play like crap) and while I believe that the Seahawks outplayed the Steeler's in almost every technical aspect of the game, the Steeler's were better at scoring during this game.

At most, I would give the Seahawks one additional TD and one FG due to the bad ref calls. At best with a 2-point conv. this would have ended with a tie.
8 posted on 02/07/2006 5:02:39 PM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: bikepacker67

Seattle outplayed the Steelers and got screwed by the officials and still had several chances to turn the game around by making a catch, by making a catch inbounds, and by making fieldgoals. So it was a combination of luck by the Steelers, inept officiating, and blown chances by the Seahawks.


9 posted on 02/07/2006 5:03:23 PM PST by westmichman (Please pray with me for global warming)
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To: bikepacker67

how many field goals did the sehawks miss? If they were that good, they could have gotten more points. They were moving the ball well but did not do squat in the red zone. How bout that nice fancy play the steelers pulled off with whats his name... I don't like either teams but watched anyway... I think the sehawks screwed themselves. They looked better but could not get it done... its all about points. it is what it is...


10 posted on 02/07/2006 5:03:35 PM PST by dubie
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To: bikepacker67
What the hell is the statute of limitations on being a post-Super-Bowl crybaby?

I'm really starting to get embarrassed for the Seattle fans.

11 posted on 02/07/2006 5:04:33 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: mysterio

You might be on to something. As someone new to watching football, I can't help but notice that once a team is behind they seem to give up. Much of the playoffs was like that.

I also can't believe that guys who get paid so much money can drop so many passes. Lastly, how the hell can you not have a defensive strategy against "gadget" plays. The Bengals and Seahawks both looked like chumps when they ran those plays. Veterans, please educate me on this point.


12 posted on 02/07/2006 5:04:39 PM PST by opticks
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To: connectthedots
And this is what pisses me off about Pitt fans such as Petronski... THEY SHOULD KNOW that this shyt is going on.

If they had WRONGLY lost that game in Indy they'd be bytching louder then the Starbucks crowd.

13 posted on 02/07/2006 5:04:41 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: Christian4Bush
I guess the referees threw those interceptions too, and managed the end of regulation time for Seattle too. Scoreboard.

Don't forget all the drop passes by the Seattle receivers.

Both teams played badly, Pittsburgh just made a couple of big plays that determined the outcome of the game.
14 posted on 02/07/2006 5:05:06 PM PST by Ticonderoga34
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To: bikepacker67

15 posted on 02/07/2006 5:05:20 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: burzum
but I'm not confident that even without the bad calls that the Seahawks would have won.

They STOLE FLUCKIN 14 POINTS from the Hawks.

I REALLY didn't care WHO won this game, but it was SOOOOO lame that the Refs were so biased.

Sickening.

16 posted on 02/07/2006 5:06:35 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67

Of course, controlling the entire first half and scoring only three points, receivers dropping easy catches and the worst clock management in NFL history did not contribute to Seattle losing.

Maybe they'll win when they go again in 30 years.


17 posted on 02/07/2006 5:07:54 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: bikepacker67
It's just not a Super bowl unless an out of shape flabby butt runs across the field advertising a website. Any Freepers wanna volunteer for next year's Super Bowl? 8^) Notice the referee hat...nice touch.
18 posted on 02/07/2006 5:07:55 PM PST by winddream
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To: dead
What the hell is the statute of limitations on being a post-Super-Bowl crybaby?

I'm really starting to get embarrassed for the Seattle fans.

One day. After that you have to remember that it was just a game. Much of the Seattle whining is by liberals who thought they *deserved* a Superbowl win. They don't care whether the Seahawks earned it or not, they just think they deserved the win. Disturbing (and I'm a Seahawks fan until the 49ers get new ownership).

19 posted on 02/07/2006 5:08:13 PM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: Petronski
It must be infuriating to know that just about every talking head FIRST mentions the biased officiatiing.

You can bet one thing Petro... Forever this will be tainted to all but you ironheads.

20 posted on 02/07/2006 5:09:12 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: Radix
Your rationale is ridiculous. "When the time came Pittsburgh came through.....???????????????????? Sure they did. They had every advantage given tto them by the refs including field position, downs, penalties, call-backs, mystery calls.

Play the game even and Seattle won the game 24-21. Play it your way and mental disease is exposed!

21 posted on 02/07/2006 5:09:22 PM PST by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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To: dead
What the hell is the statute of limitations on being a post-Super-Bowl crybaby? I'm really starting to get embarrassed for the Seattle fans.

I guess Seattle fans want to handle the Super Bowl the same way they handle elections.

22 posted on 02/07/2006 5:11:39 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Doc Savage

I wish you Seattle fans would start serving some cheese with your WHINE.

You latte drinking wienies would have a better chance of winning the Brokeback Bowl.


23 posted on 02/07/2006 5:11:48 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: bannedfromdu; Hacksaw
I think the entire city of Seattle has a little bit of sand in their collective vagina.

The need to have a spritz and get on with their lives.

24 posted on 02/07/2006 5:13:38 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: burzum
Liberals??? What the hell did you do? Check voting records at the gate??? What a lame statement. I'm a Bear fan. They played poorly and deserved to lose. I have no stake in either SB team, but Seattle had the game and momentum stolen from them. You want to tlk about whining??? Try watching the replay of the steeler CB who was beaten in the end zone screaming and crying to the ref for a late flag,...and if he didn't get it he was going to take his ball and go home!

Your post is pathetic. Take a hint!

25 posted on 02/07/2006 5:13:50 PM PST by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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To: bikepacker67
It must be infuriating to know that just about every talking head FIRST mentions the biased officiatiing.

Not really. We had bad calls against Indy and still won.

You can bet one thing Petro... Forever this will be tainted to all but you ironheads.

Unfortunately, the Super Bowl isn't like a Washington election where you keep doing it over until you win. One for the thumb!

26 posted on 02/07/2006 5:14:38 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: bikepacker67
They STOLE ** 14 POINTS from the Hawks.

They stole 7 points from the Seahawks and gave the Steeler's a TD they didn't earn. But I'm fairly confident that with the ball on the 1 yard line, they Steeler's would have gotten the TD anyways. That's why I think it was about 10 points taken away (where I think the Seahawks could have made at least a try for a FG with the misc. penalties).

I should note that I was watching the game closely but took frequent smoke breaks so I might have missed another dubious call. But this is what I remember: 3 horrible calls (others are minor), where 2 affected scoring but one would have resulted in the Steeler's TD anyways.

27 posted on 02/07/2006 5:14:40 PM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: bikepacker67; beyond the sea; discostu; TheBigB; MikeinIraq; PennsylvaniaMom; Ditto
Such a liberal attitude from a liberal city: no sense of personal responsibility, just broad accusations of being kept down by The Man.

Somehow Seattle isn't responsible for idiotic clock management or two missed field goals or atrocious punting or constantly kicking off through the endzone or dropped passes or just generally being outscored. What about converting 5 for 17 on third down? What about getting completely fooled by the gadget pass by Randle El? The missed tackles on Willie Parker?

Isn't Seattle responsible for anything?

Seattle fans need to get a life and step away from the "Selected, not Elected" rhetoric. All this counting of penalties and adding/subtracting scores sounds just like David Boies before the Florida Supreme Court. You're one step away from blaming the loss on instant-replay machines built by Diebold and scoreboards by Halliburton!

28 posted on 02/07/2006 5:15:15 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: bikepacker67

Disputed calls are one thing, but when I taped the program and took the time to review, pause an step-through frame by frame the ball spotting by the refs, they repeatedly, especially when it counted most, shorted Seattle and advantaged Pittsburg. The most obvious case was the one where Hasselback ran for what was clearly sufficient for a first down. When the refs moved (spotted) the ball, sure enough, you could see they moved it back about a foot at least from where it should have been so that it ended up short by 6 inches or so. A picture tells it all. Way beyond the perhaps arguable bad or missed calls, the "fix" was dialed in for Pittsburg from the start.


29 posted on 02/07/2006 5:16:09 PM PST by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: bikepacker67

One thing these threads show well is the collective graciousness, class, and attitude of Pittsburgh fans.

There ain't much.


30 posted on 02/07/2006 5:16:48 PM PST by Terpfen (72-25: The Democrats mounted a failibuster!)
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To: bikepacker67

Have some cheese and crackers with your whine.


31 posted on 02/07/2006 5:16:51 PM PST by stop_fascism
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To: bikepacker67

Sorry dude, you got punked by the NFL- the fix was on to pay Cowher back for 13 years of dragging the best talent in the league into oblivion. You were just the Washington Generals in this one. The Huskies will take the PAC 10 before the Seahawks are back in the Game. Forget the NFL- you can never beat the refs. I'm from Cleveland- we tried & they just banned beer bottles in the stadium.


32 posted on 02/07/2006 5:17:03 PM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: westmichman
Don't forget poor coaching by Mike Holmgren.
33 posted on 02/07/2006 5:17:04 PM PST by BW2221
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To: bikepacker67
You're such a . . . victim!


Your tears are delicious!


34 posted on 02/07/2006 5:17:12 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: kimoajax

you're wrong.

The rule states that when the QB slides FEET FIRST, the spot is where the slide BEGAN.

I know the play you are talking about. The Wife asked the same thing and she knows nothing about football.


35 posted on 02/07/2006 5:17:15 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: bikepacker67
BS. The Steeler victory is not tainted, not in the least.

They won, with the conditions that prevailed on the field. That's football, and this is coming from a long time Seahawks fan.

The officiating sucked. Not the Steeler's fault. Some Steeler fans are trying to naysay this, and some Seahawks fans are being poor sports.

In a game where a lot of the penalties are essentialy judgment calls, the refs managed to seem one sided. Almost all the game altering calls can be defended or assailed on technical or judgmental levels. Nature of the game.

Better officials would have dispensed thier judgment in a manner that did not seem so one-sided. There are individual calls that I do or don't agree with, but for a majority of neutral fans it appeared imbalanced.

For the sake of what-if, let's say the refs had "found" an infraction on the Steeler 75 yard run or not called what really was an optional hold on Locklear when Seattle appeared to have first and goal. IMHO, Steelers still win, because my beloved 'Hawks were not making plays they needed to make when the flags stayed in the pocket, and instead of the uproar about one-sided officiating, you would have a majority saying, "it evened out".

There will always be a minority who scrutinize every call looking for excuses. The problem with XL is it seemed lopsided. Throw in some pretty obvious blown calls and you have a stench. Is that the Steeler's fault?

Congrats to the Steelers, NFL Champs, no asterisk in my book. Shame on the poor judgment of the judges. Officiating is as much art as science, and they blew both disciplines.
36 posted on 02/07/2006 5:17:29 PM PST by M1911A1
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To: Doc Savage
I sense much anger in your post. Being that I'm in Seattle and hearing the liberal whining, I'll stand by my statement. The fact that you think I called you a whiner is perhaps indicating that you wrongly interpreted my comment. I wonder which part (the liberal or the whining part). ;)
37 posted on 02/07/2006 5:17:43 PM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: bikepacker67
They STOLE FLUCKIN 14 POINTS from the Hawks.

I demand a recount! Call the Florida Supreme Court!

I REALLY didn't care WHO won this game...

Oh ha ha ha ha ah aha hahahaha hahahah!

Riiiiiight.

38 posted on 02/07/2006 5:18:51 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: kimoajax
Disputed calls are one thing, but when I taped the program and took the time to review, pause an step-through frame by frame the ball spotting by the refs, they repeatedly, especially when it counted most, shorted Seattle and advantaged Pittsburg. The most obvious case was the one where Hasselback ran for what was clearly sufficient for a first down. When the refs moved (spotted) the ball, sure enough, you could see they moved it back about a foot at least from where it should have been so that it ended up short by 6 inches or so. A picture tells it all. Way beyond the perhaps arguable bad or missed calls, the "fix" was dialed in for Pittsburg from the start.

I saw the same thing too.

This was scripted, and all the Squeeler fans can post "crying baby" pictures all they want, but the fact remains that the rest of the league, and the rest of the fans will always look upon this "victory" as a farce.

20 years from now, NFL films will still talk about the ASTERISK.

39 posted on 02/07/2006 5:19:00 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: Hacksaw
We had bad calls against Indy and still won.

And Joey Porter pissed and moaned like a girl, after winning the game, about the officials post-game.

If that game had lasted another five minutes, you'd have lost. After the Palumalu non-interception call, your team gave up a TD, fumbled on the two yard line, and had to pray a novena for a missed field goal to avoid overtime.

So much for handling missed calls well.

40 posted on 02/07/2006 5:19:31 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Terpfen

I'm not a steelers fan but I sure don't like crybabies.

The refs didn't steal the games, the seahawks LOST it.


41 posted on 02/07/2006 5:20:05 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: Petronski

No Seattle fan has a right to complain til they've sat in the seat of a Lions fan for forty years.


42 posted on 02/07/2006 5:20:08 PM PST by westmichman (Please pray with me for global warming)
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To: Petronski
Petro... It's all in the history.

You can search my posts about me hoping that Pitt wins so that Bettis (a class act) can get his ring.

It's just too bad that it was bought.

43 posted on 02/07/2006 5:20:30 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: MikeinIraq

Exactly, look at the tape. He did not slide feet first and his elbow touched the ground first...which is where the first ref indicated...but when the ball was moved and spotted, the other ref he tossed it to moved it back at least a foot.


44 posted on 02/07/2006 5:20:51 PM PST by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: bikepacker67
NFL officiating has been substandard for quite awhile. To preserve the integrity of the game it is time for the NFL to spring for full-time officiating professionals instead of the guys-doing-a-weekend-gig routine. I think the NFL can financially afford it.

That having been said, the poor officiating (and it went both ways in the Super Bowl) did not effect the ultimate outcome of SB XL. The better team definitely won, and years from now the final scoreboard count will be the only thing that true NFL fans remember.

45 posted on 02/07/2006 5:21:11 PM PST by Beowulf
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To: bikepacker67
It must be infuriating to know that just about every talking head FIRST mentions the biased officiatiing.

No, it's delicious! I love it.

Your pain--your fury--is the most satisfying aspect of this victory. To defeat an unworthy adversary is one thing, but to defeat an adversary who CRIES about it endlessly, well, that's a dream come true.

I think you and the New York Times and The Nation should form an independent commission to recount the points from the game.

Meanwhile, we Steelers fans will savor the World Championship, and the schadenfreudische joy of your lamentations.

46 posted on 02/07/2006 5:21:56 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: kimoajax

BS.

You are talking about the run in the 1st Quarter correct?

Or are you talking about the play were the ground caused the fumble?

In that case, the ball was spotted after a review.


47 posted on 02/07/2006 5:22:40 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: sinkspur
If that game had lasted another five minutes,....

Except games don't last "another five minutes". We had bad calls against Indy and STILL WON.

48 posted on 02/07/2006 5:22:57 PM PST by Hacksaw (Seattle fans are the new "Gorons")
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To: bannedfromdu
I wish you Seattle fans would start serving some cheese with your WHINE. You latte drinking wienies would have a better chance of winning the Brokeback Bowl.

Speaking of Brokeback... I saw several not-called penalties by Seattle's offense that were so blatant it looked like some kind of love scene from BM!!! The only way Seattle got some of their best plays completed was due to holding. And another thing....If the Seahawks would have put more points on the board the Steelers would not have called as many running plays to chew clock. We did pretty well putting points on the board against the best in the NFL during the playoffs, if you happened to notice.

49 posted on 02/07/2006 5:23:27 PM PST by jdsteel ('nuff said.)
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To: bikepacker67
It's just too bad that it was bought.

Get off of the "it was bought" crap. You know damned well it wasn't. You are just bitching for the sake of bitching. In 4 weeks you won't give two $hit$ about the Super Bowl.....
50 posted on 02/07/2006 5:23:38 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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