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Anticreationism legislation in Wisconsin
National Center for Science Education ^
| 08 February 2006
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Posted on 02/09/2006 4:08:37 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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Related article in a Madison, WI newspaper here:
Bill bans creationism as science. Excerpt:
Under the bill, only science capable of being tested according to scientific method could be taught as science. Faith-based theories, however, could be discussed in other contexts. Alan Attie, a biochemistry professor at UW-Madison, said the bill puts Wisconsin on the map in the ongoing controversy over evolution and intelligent design.
"We can be the un-Kansas," Attie said in an interview.
Kansas, Attie said, has been the object of derision since the state's Board of Education in 2005 adopted teaching standards that support intelligent design.
"To position us in exactly the opposite direction and be the first in the nation to do it, I'm thrilled about," Attie added.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:10:00 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
To: PatrickHenry
only science capable of being tested according to scientific method Can the big bang theory, string theory, and plate tectonics be evaluated via the scientific method?
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02/09/2006 4:15:17 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Democrats soil institutions)
To: Jacquerie
I don't know about string theory, but the others certainly have supporting evidence and have made predictions which could have resulted in falsification. Actually, there have been a few tests of various string theories that have been proposed. Lisa Randall spoke recently about one.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:18:40 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
To: PatrickHenry
Looks like an attempt by religious atheism to shut out inquiry and debate.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:21:18 AM PST
by
fishtank
To: Jacquerie
Can the big bang theory, string theory, and plate tectonics be evaluated via the scientific method?Any phenomenon can be evaluated via the scientific method. What the bill meant to prohibit was the teaching as science of any phenomena that the scientific method finds indistinguishable from nonexistent phenomena.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:21:54 AM PST
by
AntiGuv
To: PatrickHenry
If the creationists were smart they'd let this pass then go after all the "science" text books that promote Gaia worship, environmentalism and hatred of humans. They just don't seem to recognize that many current text books don't teach science.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:24:15 AM PST
by
Varda
To: Jacquerie
Can the big bang theory, string theory, and plate tectonics be evaluated via the scientific method? Obviously not. In fact evolution can't either. Every attempt so far to create macroevolution in the lab has failed. Such a law if strictly enforced would be the end of evolution.
"require that anything presented as science in the classroom be testable as a scientific hypothesis and pertain to natural, not supernatural, processes."
This is almost right. There's no room for the flying spaghetti monster in science, but not everything is science is testable either.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:45:26 AM PST
by
JHBowden
(Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
"require that anything presented as science in the classroom be testable as a scientific hypothesis and pertain to natural, not supernatural, processes."
This is almost right. There's no room for the flying spaghetti monster in science, but not everything is science in testable either.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:45:42 AM PST
by
JHBowden
(Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
"require that anything presented as science in the classroom be testable as a scientific hypothesis and pertain to natural, not supernatural, processes."
This is almost right. There's no room for the flying spaghetti monster in science, but not everything in science is testable either.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:45:55 AM PST
by
JHBowden
(Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
To: JHBowden
I'm sorry guys. It's early. ;)
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:46:44 AM PST
by
JHBowden
(Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
To: PatrickHenry
Next month, the WI legislature will vote that there is no God.
To: PatrickHenry
Its Madison. Where the Liberals from Canada migrated after the election.
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posted on
02/09/2006 4:54:53 AM PST
by
Steamburg
(Pretenders everywhere)
To: Jacquerie
Scientifically speaking creation and evolution are both theories. Neither can be proven nor disproved therefore either teach both or don't teach them.
To: PatrickHenry
Understanding 'falsification' is the key to this tempest in a teapot. But in this era of egalitarian 'conservatism' that's like asking for understanding of 'incompleteness' and ain't likely to happen on my watch.
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posted on
02/09/2006 5:05:07 AM PST
by
dhuffman@awod.com
(The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
To: PatrickHenry
To: PatrickHenry
"require that anything presented as science in the classroom be testable as a scientific hypothesis and pertain to natural, not supernatural, processes".
What a bigot! First of all there is no a scientific hypothesis! A hypothesis is just a hypothesis! Is the evolutionism a testable scientific hypothesis? If so, can anybody demonstrate that evolutionism or part of evolutionism was testable and scientifically proof to be true?
Is the evolutionism a testable scientific hypothesis?
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02/09/2006 5:06:38 AM PST
by
SeeSalt
To: PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; curiosity; hosepipe
PING! Here we go -- again... Polarization efforts are intensifying: One religion (atheism) is wtiting a law to to ban all others.
For lots of fun and fireworks, I wonder if we could turn the atheists' attack toward the other religion that is trying to eliminate all opposing views (Islam)?
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Atheists vs Islamists
Now there's a fight I'd pay to watch!! LOL!!!
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posted on
02/09/2006 5:17:45 AM PST
by
TXnMA
(TROP: Satan's most successful earthly venture...)
To: TXnMA
wtiting writing Can't tell if it's my eyes or my fingers that are not yet awake. More coffee!
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02/09/2006 5:21:32 AM PST
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TXnMA
(TROP: Satan's most successful earthly venture...)
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