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Stryker Light Sales Soar in Europe
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| February 9, 2006
Posted on 02/09/2006 4:43:25 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
Yet another European nation is replacing its Cold War era armored vehicles, with wheeled vehicles similar to the American Stryker. Belgium has ordered 241 Piranha IIIC vehicles. This vehicle is based on the Piranha III LAV, long used by the U.S. Marines. These vehicles were designed by Mowag of Switzerland, a company now owned by General Dynamics. The 14 ton, 8x8 vehicle has a maximum road speed of 100 kilometers an hour. Belgium is getting several variants of the vehicle, (99 infantry carriers, 32 armed with a 30-mm autocannon, 40 with a 90-mm cannon., 24 command vehicles, 12 ambulances, 17 recovery and repair, and 18 engineer vehicles.) Deliveries begin late next year. These vehicles cost about a million dollars each. This is much cheaper than the U.S. Stryker (which go for about $1.8 million each), and has raised questions if the additional features (sensors and computers) in the Stryker are worth the cost. The troops using Stryker are very much in favor of a vehicle they "boot up" instead of start up. Since the European wheeled armored vehicles are unlikely to see combat, the controversy will continue.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: stryker; wheeledarmor
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Interesting General Dynamics also aquired the military arm of Colt Firearms as well and is introducing a new piston driven monolithic rail upper receiver system for the M-16 family of long guns...
This AM at SHOT SHOW '06 in Las Vegas..
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posted on
02/09/2006 6:31:43 AM PST
by
joesnuffy
(A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
The 14 ton, 8x8 vehicle has a maximum road speed of 100 kilometers an hour.
14 tons going over 60 mph. Don’t get in its way.
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posted on
02/09/2006 6:35:32 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: FreeManWhoCan
Contact the Military Surface Deployment and Distribution Command (SDDC) business office. You can find them on the web.
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posted on
02/09/2006 6:39:00 AM PST
by
Jonah Hex
("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
To: toddlintown
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posted on
02/09/2006 7:17:40 AM PST
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
Re #15: I always get a chuckle at how clean and nicely painted those "arms show" photos are. In real life they get a "bit" dirty and dinged up!
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posted on
02/09/2006 7:49:28 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
To: tonycavanagh
re :"Since the European wheeled armored vehicles are unlikely to see combat.. Apart from those European nations with contingents in Afghanistan and Iraq
There's always the liklihood of Kosovo kicking up again, mate.
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posted on
02/09/2006 10:31:22 AM PST
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
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posted on
02/09/2006 10:34:09 AM PST
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: R. Scott
14 tons going over 60 mph. On axles meant for ten tons.
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posted on
02/09/2006 10:35:40 AM PST
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: FreeManWhoCan
Hello Freepers: I work for a freight forwarder that ships military vehicles to the middle east. Can anyone here sugeest any ideas or point me in the right direction where I could pursue more business like this? This post is fantastic by the way! You might nose around here. Some of these folks have transport requirements in your line.
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posted on
02/09/2006 10:47:30 AM PST
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
What can the one do that the other can't?
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posted on
02/09/2006 10:54:44 AM PST
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: archy
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posted on
02/09/2006 11:08:38 AM PST
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
To: archy
Watch our for the pot holes?
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posted on
02/09/2006 12:17:42 PM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: archy
Watch our for the pot holes?
Make that -
Watch
out for the pot holes?
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posted on
02/09/2006 12:18:54 PM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: tonycavanagh; toddlintown
Mr. Cavanagh,
Please accept my apologies for toddlintown. The reality over here is that most of us do not see England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales as "European". France is European. Britain has always been sui generis and has always gone her own way. May she always.
Myself, I am repelled by the Brussels government and most of the French "intelligentsia".
Your post first puzzled me. "But Tony is English!!" my mind protested.
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posted on
02/10/2006 1:02:22 AM PST
by
Iris7
(Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
To: albionvectis
Please accept my apology for my countryman. Please include yourself as addressee of my #34.
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posted on
02/10/2006 1:05:09 AM PST
by
Iris7
(Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
To: joesnuffy
This "piston driven" design - does it keep powder debris out of the receiver? That darn gas tube into the bolt carrier business is just awful in my experience.
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posted on
02/10/2006 1:13:41 AM PST
by
Iris7
(Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
To: archy
ZSU-57-2
Old anti-aircraft system. No radar. 2 x s-60s mounted in an open turret. Hell against ground targets though.
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posted on
02/10/2006 1:38:00 AM PST
by
truemiester
(If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
To: archy
LAPES, second scariest thing you can do in a one thirty.
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posted on
02/10/2006 1:38:56 AM PST
by
truemiester
(If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
BTR-70, not even in the same class as the LAV or Stryker family. You can find these rust buckets all over eastern europe and the middle east. Seen a bunch as 'parts' in Iraq summer '03. Best use for them.
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posted on
02/10/2006 1:40:32 AM PST
by
truemiester
(If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
To: Iris7
Actually, you're right. I do look at England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales as...well, I guess, Britain, and don't make the connection of them to "the continent," that is, Europe.
I've been called on this 1/2 dozen times so far.
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posted on
02/10/2006 6:21:50 AM PST
by
toddlintown
(Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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