Skip to comments.Playboy sparks Indonesia porn row - photos included
Posted on 02/09/2006 12:31:08 PM PST by dennisw
| By Rachel Harvey
BBC News, Jakarta
News that the raunchy Playboy magazine has signed a deal to produce a local edition has fuelled the controversy.
Parliament is expected to pass a new anti-pornography bill by the middle of this year but the draft legislation is proving divisive.
A series of demonstrations has taken place in the capital, Jakarta, in support of the tightening of the laws.
The head of the parliamentary committee which drafted the new legislation, Balkan Kaplale, said Indonesia was in a state of moral decline. "These are Indonesian magazines," Mr Kaplale said, spreading a selection of pornographic tabloids across the table.
"It is terrible, our poor country. We are a religious people but now Indonesia is third worst in the world for porn after Scandinavia and Russia.
"It is so easily available and it is going unchecked. That is why we need this law," he said.
In a narrow, busy alleyway in Jakarta's Chinatown, there are stalls selling pirated DVDs.
In front of most of the stalls there is a cardboard box where the pornographic films are kept.
The DVDs are openly displayed - it is pretty graphic stuff.
Few people in Indonesia would argue against the need to control the sale of such material. And yet the proposed anti-pornography bill has come up against strong opposition.
The draft document includes articles which would make it an offence to show what it calls sensual body parts, including the navel, hips and thighs.
Those found guilty of breaking the law could face a two-year jail sentence.
Drawing the line
Husna Mulya, a women's rights activist, said the anti-pornography law had been hijacked by groups pushing a hardline conservative agenda.
"The people behind this are using religious values to make their argument, especially Muslim groups. It is not stated in the bill, but the standard being used is the standard of Sharia law.
"They say people are not dressing in line with Indonesian culture. But the fashion in Indonesia now is to wear trousers that are tight around the hips, and even traditional clothes are often designed to show off a woman's breasts," she said.
And it is not just women who are worried.
The artistic lobby is up in arms as well. The draft bill would make it illegal to record anything which portrays erotic dancing, or kissing on the lips. It would mean ground-breaking Indonesian films such as Arisan would be banned.
Arisan is a humorous take on the life of wealthy, 30-something Jakartans which addresses traditionally taboo subjects like adultery and homosexuality.
The screenplay was written by one of Indonesia's leading film critics, Joko Anwar.
He said the anti-pornography bill was a dangerous and unnecessary form of artistic censorship that would hamper filmmakers' creativity.
"We are not going to make some very graphic sexual scenes because we know that it wouldn't be accepted by an Indonesian audience.
"We already have that filter ourselves so I don't think it needs to be put into law. It's not democracy. It's not about pornography, it's your freedom to express yourself," he said.
This is the crux of the current argument. How far should such freedoms be extended?
The consensus in parliament is such that the anti-pornography bill will almost certainly be passed.
The question then becomes how it will be interpreted and enforced by a notoriously corrupt legal system.
But it is perhaps an encouraging sign of Indonesia's growing democratic maturity that a piece of draft legislation is being debated in public at all.
Maybe they could burn something.
At least they aren't burning bunnies...yet
Someone needs to mail them about 300 hustler magazines. We could just sit back and watch them all rip each other to pieces in an insane rage and then spontaneously combust.
He already has hair on his palms ... he's cross-eyed on his way to going blind!
Or have Flynn declare himself Muslim and keep printing with the Burka Next Door feature
"Someone needs to mail them about 300 hustler magazines. We could just sit back and watch them all rip each other to pieces in an insane rage and then spontaneously combust."
Some pornographer needs to make some really disgusting and perverted films or photshoots featuring the (false) Prophet Muhhamad.
how long before someone registers http://www.playboy.go.to/ ?
I'm sure Indonesians are becoming more warped from reading militant interpretations of the Koran than from looking at Playboy.
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
Why do you say that? It's a religion of peace!
Don't think you'll find a porno photographer brave enough. As for a movie, how about Mohammed and Caligula, a Love Story?
Look, if your Iocal imam can "marry" you for an hour to a female total stranger so you can...well...you know...and Allah thinks it's fine, just have Mr. Turbin "bless" the Playboy for about fifteen minutes, and surely Allah will have no problem with it!
Naked adult women isn't exactly what rocks a muzzie's boat. They're more into underage boys, just like their sicko pedophile false prophet.
The more I hear about islam, the more I could go for a pork chop or two.
You'd think the extreme liberal faction of this country, who are siding with these fanatic terrorists, would look at things like outlawing porn, crappy western music in Iran, forbidding drug and alcohol consumption throught the muslim culture and come to the conclusion that, perhaps, this is the way they want the world to be.
I mean, what would a liberal be without their daily dose of porn sex, rock n' roll, and drugs.
And Brutus is an honorable man.
...looking forward to the counter demonstrations.
All of you need to check out the Muslim Babes Gone Wild videos. But please don't tell the Imams as the muslim babes fear for their lives.
The more I hear about islam, the more I could go for a
pork chop Danish Ham or two.
And speaking of Danish Ham, I et two Brutus...
It is so sad to see Asians who have been infected by Islam. It's one thing for the miserable Arabs to be saddled with it--they deserve it. But these poor Asian folks who were just fine with peaceful Buddhism and animist worship, to be forced into filthy Islam is just pathetic.
Caligula? That's a strange name for a goat.
I could not find Burka Edition. But here is the SI swimsuit collection http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/swimsuit/collection/
I'm offended by those beautiful scantily clad girls. Ok now, just where exactly do I go to riot and torch buildings?
It's right there in the book, Doc: "Touch not, view not the
unclean thing, or, verily, your weiner will fall off.
Spartacus 4: subsection viii.
Now some banger will cite something with "fruits" in it, and we all go ballistic thinking its another Brokeback thread . . . I think I could go for a while without hearing more about horny (`Epic love story!') sheepherders or outraged (but peaceful, dammit) moon worshippers.
Not a religion of piece?
Well Dubya keeps saying sumpin like that...
It's appropriate. lol
Well, when you have to deal with this much male jelly. You have no choice but taking your problems into claw.
Or ...um... so I've been told....
(quick furtive look in panic)
"strengthen your mind against the naughty bits, and harden your parts, lest they shrink from the proper way."
Steel rods of chastisement?
What? What'd I say?
Muhammad's madness called Islam is a natural fit for deserts and arid rocky places. Lush tropics like Indonesia and Malaysia and Southern Thailand just don't seem right. Plus Islam came there by Arab traders and missionaries. Not by Jihad conquest
I'd only buy it for the articles.
Um, me too. Yeah thats it. Love those articles.
That "photos included" in the headline is soooo misleading.
I admire their stand.
Yeah. And if they're really pissed, they'll bring the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch.
Maybe Gallery can go over there. Instead of the Girl Next Door it could be the Jihadist Next Door contest.
The people in the turd world don't want us or our stuff.
And we are addicted to their cheap labor, and want them to like or at least accept our way of life.
Leave them alone, make our own stuff, build a high fence around the turd world.
Works for me.