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Undeniable historical links (Nazism and current Islamic extremism)
The Washington Times ^ | February 9, 2006 | Chuck Morse and Carol Greenwald

Posted on 02/09/2006 12:40:31 PM PST by neverdem

    The sacred memory of the victims of the Nazi Holocaust must not be victimized by political correctness.The U.S.Holocaust Memorial Museum has done this by avoiding any mention of the Arab or Muslim role in the Holocaust and by ignoring the link between Nazism and current Islamic extremism.


    Iran's president announces that the Holocaust never happened while simultaneously announcing that Israel should "be wiped off the map." The vilest anti-Semitic conspiracy theories are promulgated in the Arab press and taught to Arab children as a matter of routine. Anti-Semitic incitement has become a state-sponsored article of faith in much of the Islamic world.


    The museum has programs on the role of Christianity in promoting anti-Semitism -- but nothing on Islam. It has programs on current genocidal threats such as Darfur -- but not when the threat is against Jews. It does mention current anti-Semitism in Europe -- but not in the Middle East.


    Just as the Nazi threat was not confined to Jews, the Islamofascist threat is not confined to Jews, as demonstrated by the events of September 11, 2001 and by Islamic terrorist bombings in London, Madrid, Bali and Israel.


    Nazism held a genuine appeal for the Arab populace, who were attracted to its messages of rejection of democracy, recovery of past military glory and Jew-hating. In 1935, Reza Shah, the ruler of Persia, changed the country's name from Persia to Iran to reflect that they, like the Nazis, were Aryans. A popular Arab song during the war went, "Allah in heaven, Hitler on earth."


    The historic Nazi connection to today's Islamic terrorism is Haj Amin al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem. He became a Nazi agent after meeting Adolf Eichmann, an architect of the Holocaust, in Palestine in 1937, and with Nazi funds organized...

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The U.S.Holocaust Memorial Museum has done this by avoiding any mention of the Arab or Muslim role in the Holocaust and by ignoring the link between Nazism and current Islamic extremism.

How politically correct?

1 posted on 02/09/2006 12:40:33 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The Nazis used any religion to further their power. For example, the Nazis raised three Muslim Waffen SS Divisions during the war. These were the only true "religious" SS Division the Nazis ever created (and it is safe to say that the Germany was not a Muslim nation). Himmler was fascinated by the thought of Muslims to be fearless soldiers willing to kill for their religion. One of these Muslim Waffen SS divisions (The Hanjer Division) was responsible for the murder of over 90 percent of the Yugoslavian Jewish population.


2 posted on 02/09/2006 12:45:11 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: neverdem

"The U.S.Holocaust Memorial Museum has done this by avoiding any mention of the Arab or Muslim role in the Holocaust"


What role did these groups play in the WWII Holocaust? Did they turn more Jews over to the Nazis than the French, Ukranians, Austrians, Italians, etc?



3 posted on 02/09/2006 12:46:46 PM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: neverdem

Finally, the truth is being told about the connection between Islam and Naziism. It has always been glossed over by historians, but now its time to stop glossing.


4 posted on 02/09/2006 12:51:15 PM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
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To: neverdem

this war is only starting. I, for one, look forward to it.


5 posted on 02/09/2006 12:54:07 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (I'm becoming a performance artist so i can crap on the koran in public)
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To: neverdem

If you read the little signs under the displays at the U.S. Holocaust Museum, you will find that there is a very anti-American slant to them. Enough slaps in the face to really detract from the exhibit.


6 posted on 02/09/2006 12:54:14 PM PST by Pirate21 (The liberal media are as sheep clearing the path along which they will be lead to the slaughter.)
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To: neverdem

Elijah Muhammad:

"I was not lying when I said Hitler was not a bad man, because who did Hitler hate?"


7 posted on 02/09/2006 12:58:23 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: neverdem
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/ LINK AND FOLLOW FREEPERS

8 posted on 02/09/2006 1:00:28 PM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: 2banana

The "Handschar" Division, the 13th Waffen-Gebirgs Div.der SS was composed of Catholics and Muslims [It was formed in Croatia].It was the only SS division to suffer a mutiny, while training in France. Fourteen mutineers were executed. It fought in Northeastern Bosnia and western Serbia in anti-Partisan operations, and fought against the Soviets in Hungary, wuith many of the Croatians deserting, and German troops assigned to the division fighting as a Kampfgruppe.


9 posted on 02/09/2006 1:02:42 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: neverdem
The History Channel ran a show the other night which was how Saddam modeled his Baathist party after the Nazis.
10 posted on 02/09/2006 1:02:47 PM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: 2banana

Actually the majority murdered in Yugoslavia were not Jewish but Orthodox Christian Serb and who they called Gypsies. The Croatians who where bigger Nazis than any Nazis worked in tandem with the Islamic SS.


11 posted on 02/09/2006 1:03:08 PM PST by SQUID
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To: neverdem
German-Muslim alliances go back to the WWI era.

That's why T.E. Lawrence is such a hero. He helped to break that up. (Though of course Lawrence became a Muslim apologist later.)

Fascinating article from the Times. Thanks.

12 posted on 02/09/2006 1:03:28 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: neverdem

Sure explains the Democrat Party -- Islamic terrorist alliance {Islam == Nazi (German national socialist party) == Democrat (American socialist party)


13 posted on 02/09/2006 1:25:59 PM PST by Casekirchen (Still waiting for the mythical "moderate moslem" --- for the past 1396 years)
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To: neverdem

Good article!


14 posted on 02/09/2006 1:30:44 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: wildcatf4f3

Pat Robertson, is that you?

But seriously it's there to see. Google Grand Mufti Nazi. The Grand Mufti (Mayor of Jerusalem before Israel) who just happened to be Yasser Arafat Uncle. The boy's uncle is more important than the father over there. It's tied up in the fact a woman can never be positive of who the father is, but her brother - there is no doubt.

Another interesting tidbit. In Bangladesh you have people in the family called MA, MAMA, and MAMMY. Ones' the biological mother, one's the brother of the biological mother and one's the mother of the mother or something like that.


15 posted on 02/09/2006 1:39:37 PM PST by kinghorse
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16 posted on 02/09/2006 1:52:16 PM PST by SJackson ("Bin Laden our beloved, Denmark must be blown up," protesters in Ramallah)
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To: neverdem

Lots of good Nazi-Arab history info in the main article. Thanks alot.


17 posted on 02/09/2006 2:01:36 PM PST by Wuli
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To: neverdem

My naive guess is that the reasons the Germans had no real qualms about
letting their contry fill up with Muslim guest-workers after WWII were:
1. Cheap labor
2. Fellow-travelers when it comes to Jews


18 posted on 02/09/2006 2:01:51 PM PST by VOA
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To: neverdem; Peach; 2banana

"Saddam And The Third Reich", which aired a few days ago, examines the
Nazi-Iraq(Islam) link.

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=74647

IIRC, the show said that The Grand Mufti had a nightly broadcast on
Radio Berlin.
Never heard about that in school!


19 posted on 02/09/2006 2:26:25 PM PST by VOA
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To: neverdem

On the side-topic of the anti-Christian/anti-American bias at The National
Holocaust Museum, here's a link to a piece by Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
http://www.theamericanenterprise.org/issues/articleid.18939/article_detail.asp


20 posted on 02/09/2006 2:30:21 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

Thanks for the links.


21 posted on 02/09/2006 2:42:12 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

bump for publicity


22 posted on 02/09/2006 2:50:00 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

The second link is dead.


23 posted on 02/09/2006 3:17:20 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I think that second link is "dodgy".
It was slow when I visited (for this thread), then "service
unavailable".
But now it seems to be doing OK.


24 posted on 02/09/2006 3:30:17 PM PST by VOA
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To: neverdem

Also checked the second link with Firefox; worked fine!


25 posted on 02/09/2006 3:33:00 PM PST by VOA
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26 posted on 02/09/2006 4:21:39 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 60-65)
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To: VOA


"IIRC, the show said that The Grand Mufti had a nightly broadcast on Radio Berlin. Never heard about that in school!"


Right ! And I don't remember Hollywood showing any Jew hating muslims in SS uniforms....do you? I'm confused, if Hollywood is "controlled by the Jews" why wouldn't those in power exploit the truth?


27 posted on 02/09/2006 4:24:03 PM PST by TET1968
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To: TET1968

"And I don't remember Hollywood showing any Jew hating muslims in SS
uniforms....do you? I'm confused, if Hollywood is "controlled
by the Jews" why wouldn't those in power exploit the truth?"

Fair enough questions.
But, IIRC, there was a documentary (name escapes me) on TV within the
last 6 months about how Hollywood was reticent to make films that
directly dealt with the Holocaust, at least in the decade following WWII.
I didn't get to see the documenatary, but I suspect that maybe the
power-players in Hollywood just didn't want to dig that ground for material
because worldwide Jews were just trying to recover and get on with their lives.
And maybe didn't think it would be received well on film partly because
it wasn't happy fare and might cause some bent minds to think "that whole
war was the fault of the Jews".
About the heaviest things I can remember were George Steven's "Diary of
Anne Frank" and Goldwyn producing the excellent "The Best Years of Our Lives".

Not only did Hollywood leave out major bits of WWII in film after the war...
A fair bit of the Jewish tragedy in WWII wasn't fairly reported in
the newspaper of record while the Holocaust was on-going:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521812879/qid=1139531897/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-5383849-6639107?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

And as for there being a disproportionately Jewish power structure
in Hollywood (at least "back in the day")...there shouldn't be any
stigma to having been there when Hollywood was born and really knowing
how to finance huge products.
Details in Neil Gabler's "An Empire of Their Own".


28 posted on 02/09/2006 4:50:05 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

It works now. Go figure.


29 posted on 02/09/2006 5:43:07 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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30 posted on 02/09/2006 8:25:41 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Blzbba

They butchered hundredsof thousands of Jews, Serbs and Gypsies..


31 posted on 02/09/2006 8:51:10 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: neverdem

people should listen better. This has been talked about for years.


32 posted on 02/09/2006 8:52:54 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: TET1968

Joseph Kennedy's pal, Hayes (The Hayes Code)was in charge of overseeing the film industry, and threatened studios with closure and unemployment of their staff if there were anti Nazi films. However in 1939, Edward G Robinson was in "Confessions of A Nazi Spy". The parallels to todays sand nazis is astounding..


33 posted on 02/09/2006 8:54:56 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: neverdem

A picture taken in 1943 of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini (uncle of Yassir Arafat) reviewing Bosnian-Muslim troops - a unit of the "Hanjar (Saber) Division" of the Waffen SS which he personally recruited for Hitler.

The Führer's Mufti: After World War I, the Great Powers of Europe jockeyed for influence in the Middle East's oil fields and trade routes, with France and Britain holding mandates throughout most of the region. In the 1930s, the fascist regimes that arose in Italy and Germany sought greater stakes in the area, and began courting Arab leaders to revolt against their British and French custodians. Among their many willing accomplices was Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin el-Husseini, who fled Palestine after agitating against the British during the Arab Revolt of 1936-39. He found refuge in Iraq – another of Her Majesty's mandates – where he again topped the British most wanted list after helping pull the strings behind the Iraqi coup of 1941. The revolt in Baghdad was orchestrated by Hitler as part of a strategy to squeeze the region between the pincers of Rommel's troops in North Africa, German forces in the Caucuses and pro-Nazi forces in Iraq. However, in June 1941 British troops put down the rebellion and the Mufti escaped via Tehran to Italy and eventually to Berlin.

Once in Berlin, the Mufti received an enthusiastic reception by the "Islamische Zentralinstitut" and the whole Islamic community of Germany, which welcomed him as the "Führer of the Arabic world." In an introductory speech, he called the Jews the "most fierce enemies of the Muslims" and an "ever corruptive element" in the world. Husseini soon became an honored guest of the Nazi leadership and met on several occasions with Hitler. He personally lobbied the Führer against the plan to let Jews leave Hungary, fearing they would immigrate to Palestine. He also strongly intervened when Adolf Eichman tried to cut a deal with the British government to exchange German POWs for 5000 Jewish children who also could have fled to Palestine. The Mufti's protests with the SS were successful, as the children were sent to death camps in Poland instead. One German officer noted in his journals that the Mufti would liked to have seen the Jews "preferably all killed." On a visit to Auschwitz, he reportedly admonished the guards running the gas chambers to work more diligently. Throughout the war, he appeared regularly on German radio broadcasts to the Middle East, preaching his pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic message to the Arab masses back home.

To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious "Hanjar troopers," a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia's Jews and burned countless Serbian churches and villages. These Bosnian Muslim recruits rapidly found favor with SS chief Heinrich Himmler, who established a special Mullah Military school in Dresden.

The only condition the Mufti set for his help was that after Hitler won the war, the entire Jewish population in Palestine should be liquidated. After the war, Husseini fled to Switzerland and from there escaped via France to Cairo, were he was warmly received. The Mufti used funds received earlier from the Hilter regime to finance the Nazi-inspired Arab Liberation Army that terrorized Jews in Palestine.

The Arab Embrace of Nazism: Husseini represents the prevalent pro-Nazi posture among the Arab/Muslim world before, during and even after the Holocaust. The Nazi-Arab connection existed even when Adolf Hitler first seized power in Germany in 1933. News of the Nazi takeover was welcomed by the Arab masses with great enthusiasm, as the first congratulatory telegrams Hitler received upon being appointed Chancellor came from the German Consul in Jerusalem, followed by those from several Arab capitals. Soon afterwards, parties that imitated the National Socialists were founded in many Arab lands, like the "Hisb-el-qaumi-el-suri" (PPS) or Social Nationalist Party in Syria. Its leader, Anton Sa'ada, styled himself the Führer of the Syrian nation, and Hitler became known as "Abu Ali" (In Egypt his name was "Muhammed Haidar"). The banner of the PPS displayed the swastika on a black-white background. Later, a Lebanese branch of the PPS – which still receives its orders from Damascus – was involved in the assassination of Lebanese President Pierre Gemayel.

The most influential party that emulated the Nazis was "Young Egypt," which was founded in October 1933. They had storm troopers, torch processions, and literal translations of Nazi slogans – like "One folk, One party, One leader." Nazi anti-Semitism was replicated, with calls to boycott Jewish businesses and physical attacks on Jews. Britain had a bitter experience with this pro-German mood in Egypt, when the official Egyptian government failed to declare war on the Wehrmacht as German troops were about to conquer Alexandria.

After the war, a member of Young Egypt named Gamal Abdul Nasser was among the officers who led the July 1952 revolution in Egypt. Their first act – following in Hitler's footsteps – was to outlaw all other parties. Nasser's Egypt became a safe haven for Nazi war criminals, among them the SS General in charge of the murder of Ukrainian Jewry; he became Nasser's bodyguard and close comrade. Alois Brunner, another senior Nazi war criminal, found shelter in Damascus, where he served for many years as senior adviser to the Syrian general staff and still resides today. Sami al-Joundi, one of the founders of the ruling Syrian Ba'ath Party, recalls: "We were racists. We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books... We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism." These leanings never completely ceased. Hitler's Mein Kampf currently ranks sixth on the best-seller list among Palestinian Arabs. Luis Al-Haj, translator of the Arabic edition, writes glowingly in the preface about how Hitler's "ideology" and his "theories of nationalism, dictatorship and race… are advancing especially within our Arabic States." When Palestinian police first greeted Arafat in the self-rule areas, they offered the infamous Nazi salute - the right arm raised straight and upward.

The PLO and notably Arafat himself do not make a secret of their source of inspiration. The Grand Mufti el-Husseini is venerated as a hero by the PLO. It should be noted, that the PLO's top figure in east Jerusalem, Faisal Husseini, (recently deceased, 2001) is the grandson to the Führer's Mufti. Arafat also considers the Grand Mufti a respected educator and leader, and in 1985 declared it an honor to follow in his footsteps. Little wonder. In 1951, a close relative of the Mufti named Rahman Abdul Rauf el-Qudwa el-Husseini matriculated to the University of Cairo. The student decided to conceal his true identity and enlisted as "Yasser Arafat."

34 posted on 02/09/2006 9:05:57 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: SQUID

statistic show that the overwhelming majority of dead as a result of ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia were in fact Muslims


35 posted on 02/10/2006 12:55:34 AM PST by pax4all
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To: Blzbba

during the second world war,most islamic countries were colonized or under protectorate regimes. Morocco, for example, was under the French Protectorate who at the time was the Petain (Nazi puppet regime) in France since France had been invaded by the Nazis. The ruler at the time,Sultan Mohamed V, was asked by the French under Petain to hand over the Moroccan Jews to the Nazis..His answer was NO, they are Moroccan regardless of their faith just as Moroccan Muslims and therefore enjoy the same protection and citizenship.

When the Sultan died, Jews as well as Muslims in this country mourned him.

This is what is glossed over by biased media and in most Western schools. No wonder so many are in fact ignorant about the Middle East & Islamic world and its history

lesson: there are more decent people out there than media sensationalism would dare to have you believe.

PS: on another note: while I was at school and we studied world religions the interesting thing was that we spent about 98% of the time studying Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism, and about 3 days studying Islam and the Islamic Empire..strange, isn´t it?


36 posted on 02/10/2006 1:04:33 AM PST by pax4all
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To: 2banana

"The Nazis used any religion to further their power."

So will the anti-christ. We get a picture of the things to come, lest we forget.


37 posted on 02/10/2006 3:22:56 AM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: 2banana
And here is the link to a website that shows the NAZI/Islam connection.

NAZI's and Islamic Terrorism

38 posted on 02/10/2006 5:48:06 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Blzbba
Did they turn more Jews over to the Nazis than the French, Ukranians, Austrians, Italians, etc?

Don't blame the Italians

It's probably unfair to blame the Poles too, since 2.5 million non-Jewish Poles died at the hands of the Nazis.

39 posted on 02/10/2006 6:02:27 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: pax4all

Thanks for your reply re:36.

It IS strange, except that, in terms of amazing historical achievements, Islam is lacking, except for the invention of the number 0.


40 posted on 02/10/2006 6:15:36 AM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: VOA
2. Fellow-travelers when it comes to Jews

Your comment is so... well, twentieth-century.

41 posted on 02/10/2006 7:15:52 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: pax4all
Do you have those stats or know where I can see them?
42 posted on 02/10/2006 8:29:03 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: pax4all

Prove it. Let's see your sources.


43 posted on 02/10/2006 10:47:20 AM PST by SQUID
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


44 posted on 02/10/2006 12:57:26 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

All forms of extremism tend to lead you down certain similar paths.

Nazi, Commie, Islamist....... it don't matter.

The liberal in our society sees the protection of a democracy and republic as synonymous with fascism. Their belief is that freedom equates to a permissive society with no rules, no expectations, a society that does nothing when if faces a threat.

They are the self proclaimed intellectuals who learned a lot from Chamberlain, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, the latter shutting down a republic in order to create a situation where he can seize power through the chaos he helped produce.

A republic, a democratic society is a relationship between a people and their government. It is something that requires constant attention and a conscious effort to keep alive. Taking a republic for granted is leaving it for the wolves like a Hitler who will dismantle it for his quest for power. Appeasing those who are unwilling to compromise, those who are bent on your destruction accomplishes what Chamberlain did with his statement that he had created “Peace in our time”. Carter, Clinton, and others are perfect examples of politicians who through inaction encouraged and allowed the cancer to grow, whether Communism or AQ.

The notion that democracy and a republic was borne through some miracle is nonsense. It’s blood and tears that paved the way for America to become and remain a republic, a free democratic nation. Those who today see nothing worth fighting for, see no enemy in radical Islam, who think our republic is not threatened, who think we can appease this foe, who think the only right thing to do is to not fight back and focus internally on ourselves are “ignorant fools”. Listen to Carter and we'll end up where he took us once before, into a societal decline.


45 posted on 02/10/2006 1:49:18 PM PST by Red6
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To: Blzbba
It IS strange, except that, in terms of amazing historical achievements, Islam is lacking, except for the invention of the number 0.

They borrowed from India a number system that had a zero and rewrote it as their own.

I believe the Arabs can take credit for optics and being the first to make corrective lenses.

46 posted on 02/10/2006 3:46:04 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Do you have a link for that, or was that off the top of your head?


47 posted on 02/10/2006 3:48:36 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
From this page:

http://focusonjerusalem.com/arabmuslimnaziconnection.html

48 posted on 02/10/2006 6:26:45 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Thanks for the link.


49 posted on 02/10/2006 7:03:23 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: SQUID

You could just GOOGLE " Moroccan Jews King Mohamed V" and you will get tons but for your reference, pls see below:

Sources:
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/jewishsociety/My_Meeting_with_the_King.asp

http://www.drcowles.ca/art_pg/curator_1.html

With the exception of college region-specific history texts, it is unlikely that most US world history books cover but here are two I can remember
-La Maison d'Iligh
- the Sultan´s Jew

Promise you tons more but just need to get my author names!

Furthermore, did you know?

1) King Hassan II allowed Moroccan Jews who wished to emigrate to Israel after the 1967 war to keep their Moroccan passports.

2)Pres. Bush included these facts in his speech on the WH lawn for the welcoming ceremony for King Mohamed VI of Morocco (June 20, 2000)(http://www.gradewinner.com/p/articles/mi_m2889/is_25_36/ai_64263207)

3) Morocco was the first country to recognize the newly independent USA in 1777. (You might be interested in the letter between Sultan Mohamed III and President Washington; copies should be in the National archives/Library of congress).

The best source: my godmother who is a Moroccan Jew and though now getting on in her years, still remembers the Vichy days where both Jew and Muslim were treated like dirt by the occupiers..


50 posted on 02/24/2006 5:20:09 PM PST by pax4all
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