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Computer Program Tracks Woman's Cycle - NFP
Arlington Catholic Herald ^ | 2/9/06 | Angela E. Pometto

Posted on 02/09/2006 1:26:04 PM PST by klossg

Say goodbye to diaries — those small books with breakable locks that little brothers could easily get their hands on.

Today’s women have computer programs that help them track their most cherished secrets. Women practicing Natural Family Planning (NFP) can throw away their paper charts and store that information in their palm pilot. And there is no worry about this sensitive information falling into the wrong hands — with the click of a button, the intimate details of a woman’s life can be protected by a password.

Woman Calendar, a program by BEIKS LLC, is a simple program that any couple can navigate. The calendar is basically an electronic journal of a woman’s cycle that includes options to chart such obvious signs such as menstruation, basal temperature and mucus, as well as noting days with doctor’s appointments, potential PMS and cramps.

When entering data into the system, the program automatically predicts when a woman’s fertility will peak and when she should expect her next menstruation. Although this is not always a guaranteed prediction, when added to the couple’s interpretation of the data, the computer’s estimate can be helpful.

After recording one cycle, the program converts the information into printable charts. Charts display the length of each cycle, the temperature changes by month, and the temperature changes and physical observations by cycle.

NFP couples are not the only people who can benefit from the program. It is also helpful for single women who may need to track their cycle for health reasons.

The program is available in several different formats including Desktop, Palm OS and Pocket PC.

According to Dr. Richard Fehring, professor of nursing science and director for the Institute of Natural Family Planning at Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wis., computer programs are often helpful for women who are “technically oriented.” “It’s very organized and more clear,” he said. But to some degree, Fehring believes it may be more work for a woman to enter their information into a computer instead of using an already simple paper chart system. “You shouldn’t need a computer.”

There are many programs now on the market that offer varied features, such as the ability to send in the chart for professional consultation. “Most charting systems are not any more accurate,” Fehring said, adding that it’s still important for a couple to read the signs.

For more information or to download the program, go to BEIKS LLC Woman Calendar.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: birthcontrol; ccl; computer; contraception; familyplanning; fertility; infertility; nfp; software; theologyofthebody
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1 posted on 02/09/2006 1:26:05 PM PST by klossg
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To: InterestedQuestioner; annalex; Notwithstanding; Romulus; A.A. Cunningham; Mrs. Don-o; ...
Theology of the Body Ping!

If anyone wants on or off theTheology of the Body Ping List, notify me here or by freepmail.
2 posted on 02/09/2006 1:26:39 PM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: klossg

So if one of these programs has a "bug", does that mean it might have an "STD"?


3 posted on 02/09/2006 1:30:00 PM PST by bygolly
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To: klossg

Could be useful for guys as well. Use it to plan fishing and hunting trips. Anything to get out of the house!!!!!!! ;)


4 posted on 02/09/2006 1:30:14 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: klossg

Just set that Blackberry alarm to play "In The Mood" when it's time to copulate.


5 posted on 02/09/2006 1:31:00 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: TXBSAFH
Could be useful for guys as well. Use it to plan fishing and hunting trips. Anything to get out of the house!!!!!!! ;)

Let me get this straight. You want to plan a fishing or hunting trip rather than know which days of the month your wife is going to want to actually have sex? Interesting. ;)

(I know which days you were really trying to avoid..LOL)

6 posted on 02/09/2006 1:35:21 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: klossg
The Secret Service already had one of these during the XXX-42 administration so they knew when one of them would be more likely to have to take a lamp or an ashtray for the president.
7 posted on 02/09/2006 1:39:01 PM PST by KarlInOhio (During wartime, some whistles should not be blown. - Orson Scott Card)
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To: klossg

Interesting.


8 posted on 02/09/2006 1:58:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: klossg
wow, how innovative....I've essentially had this on my phone for well over a year. I cool little j2ME app called "MyGirls"

first googled link I could find:
http://www.getjar.com/products/48/MyGirls
9 posted on 02/09/2006 2:01:22 PM PST by PissAndVinegar
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To: TXBubba

No, those are not the days I am trying to avoid. Her PMS days are the days I want out of the house. You kow why the call it pms don't you?

Mad Cows disease was alreay taken. ;)


10 posted on 02/09/2006 2:04:00 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: klossg

Reminds me of the old joke (short version):

Man went into store to buy tampons for wife. Counter boy tried to sell him a lawnmower, saying he may as well cut his grass b'cause he sure wasn't having sex that weekend.


11 posted on 02/09/2006 2:06:31 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: klossg

I hear that the program syncs up with other women's programs if they leave their PDA's or laptops together for a period of time...


12 posted on 02/09/2006 2:07:11 PM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: TXBSAFH

I was just trying to give you the positive twist. As a woman, I would prefer my hubby to go away on those other days a lot myself. Then I wouldn't have to yell at him.


13 posted on 02/09/2006 2:09:02 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: klossg; Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day; xsmommy; najida; Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Computer Program Tracks Woman's Cycle - NFP

Here's the hardware.


14 posted on 02/09/2006 2:24:01 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: klossg

My wife did this to track her fertility... these guys aint the first to make a program like this...


15 posted on 02/09/2006 2:35:11 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: martin_fierro

heck i did that when you had to do it by hand....


16 posted on 02/09/2006 2:42:00 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: TXBSAFH; cyborg
Could be useful for guys as well. Use it to plan fishing and hunting trips. Anything to get out of the house!!!!!!! ;)

LOL

17 posted on 02/09/2006 2:43:08 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: xsmommy

T
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18 posted on 02/09/2006 2:43:21 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: klossg

19 posted on 02/09/2006 2:44:25 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: MD_Willington_1976
...these guys aint the first to make a program like this...

Like Microsoft Excel, for example...


:OD

20 posted on 02/09/2006 2:45:42 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: PissAndVinegar
Here's the blurb for "MyGirls" from your link:

Tiny tool that displays information about women, depending on their female cycle. Once you have entered the current day of her cycle, it always shows you if/when she has her menstruation, when the ovulation is/how probable it is that she gets pregnant, and how big the PMS effect currently is. Can handle multiple women ;)

LOL

21 posted on 02/09/2006 2:47:01 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: xsmommy

Like any guy needs a computer to track his wife's cycle. I wonder if the think comes with a PMS Alert.


22 posted on 02/09/2006 3:01:15 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: xsmommy

What did you have to do by hand? (And was that just certain days of the month?)


23 posted on 02/09/2006 3:02:21 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

keep track of the INFO you perv! warn't no fancy computer programs back then ; )


24 posted on 02/09/2006 3:04:40 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: martin_fierro

True. Of course, when the woman in question is with me...their buttons appear more like the top one... ;-)


25 posted on 02/09/2006 3:04:46 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: VRWCmember

i am in continual mourning for the loss of that fantastic pic you had of me for the PMS alert! that was the classic of all time!


26 posted on 02/09/2006 3:05:27 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

I am almost afraid to ask for clarification of what that meant...


27 posted on 02/09/2006 3:05:53 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: RockinRight; VRWCmember

LMAO, vast wasn't!


28 posted on 02/09/2006 3:06:25 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Whoops...figured it out.

You gotta admit...pinging TO the particular post you did would bring questions!1


29 posted on 02/09/2006 3:19:53 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: klossg
Didn't need a computer, my wife's recurring monthly interest in fondling sharp implements and looking at me balefully was all the warning I needed.
30 posted on 02/09/2006 3:48:32 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: TXBSAFH; martin_fierro; xsmommy; Tax-chick; cinives; MikeWUSAF; PissAndVinegar; KarlInOhio; ...
Funny that doctors and engineers are just coming to grips with a woman's fertility cycle in order to make a computer program like this ...

We landed on the moon ~ 37 years ago, cured polio ~ 55 years ago, did the first open heart surgery 60 years ago, flew an air plane 98 years ago...

And here we are just starting to really understand when a "woman is fertile!" It's not like women weren't there all along, having babies. Or we weren't aware what caused pregnancy. How can we still get away with saying "This was a surprise pregnancy??!!!"

Did you know that the human egg only lives about 24 hours. That means sperm has to be there only one day out of the month or a women cannot become pregnant. How can a pregnancy be "surprising" when satellites are orbiting the earth beaming cable TV programs and providing your exact location +/- 1 foot. Why married people, in the year 2006, rely on contraception when a woman's body/personality/health provides easy to read signs ... is beyond me.

Especially when the pill crushes a woman's libido. I mean women are naturally less "horny" than men anyway. It is hard enough to match up "the mood." But, then we toss the pill at her ... when we could just get to know her a little better, read her signs and abstain a few days a month. Contraception seems like using a bazooka to get rid of a rabbit. Instead we could just pick up the cute little cuddly rabbit and move it out of the way. Who needs bazooka holes and shrapnel all over the yard (especially when it is your sex life). Then again I may be slightly off, seeing this as if it were easier than calculating all the equations to make Apollo 11 possible back in the 1960s.
31 posted on 02/10/2006 7:08:20 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: Mike Darancette

there is the great email that makes the rounds about what looks attractive to women, with the punchline that during PMS, men look good to women, with scissors sticking out of their skulls!


32 posted on 02/10/2006 7:10:39 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: klossg
Did you know that the human egg only lives about 24 hours. That means sperm has to be there only one day out of the month or a women cannot become pregnant.

But sperm can live 3 or 4 days in the right conditions, so there's a "window" of 3-5 days around ovulation when conception can occur.

I agree that any time a man and a woman engage in sexual intercourse, they can't realistically claim to be "surprised" if pregnancy occurs. That's, like, the whole point, from a natural-selection standpoint.

33 posted on 02/10/2006 7:12:54 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: Tax-chick
I agree that any time a man and a woman engage in sexual intercourse, they can't realistically claim to be "surprised" if pregnancy occurs. That's, like, the whole point, from a natural-selection standpoint.

Sure, but I find it a little odd that we women aren't taught how to detect our fertile periods until there is a problem or if we seek out natural family planning methods. If I had a daughter, I'd certainly explain to her what I learned during my bout with infertility.

34 posted on 02/10/2006 7:37:57 AM PST by Dianna
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To: klossg
...when a woman's body/personality/health provides easy to read signs ... is beyond me.

Not all women are as "easy to read" as others.

I'd have better luck doing the calculations to make Apollo II possible.

35 posted on 02/10/2006 7:38:03 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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But sperm can live 3 or 4 days in the right conditions, so there's a "window" of 3-5 days around ovulation when conception can occur.

Yes that is right! You are completely right. Didn't mean to imply that just like men, sperm don't think one day is enough! Those "little-men" hang around for up to 3 days and in some rare cases up to 4 days!

And as you said NFP uses the "5 day window" rule to be darn sure! Only smart to make sure when you want to be sure!

As you implied: Before the egg is "launched", like Apollo 11, there is the 5 day sperm-can-live window. And I agree with you that it still doesn't make knowing when a woman is fertile ... comparable to open heart surgery or landing on the moon or flying a jet at 8 times the speed of sound.
36 posted on 02/10/2006 7:38:55 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: klossg

Oh joy. I have a pre-teen daughter.

She ain't gettin' no palm pilot!


37 posted on 02/10/2006 7:39:38 AM PST by sauropod ("Here Lies Joe Biden, Buried Under His Own Words.")
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To: klossg

There's actually a few other sites, too...I personally used http://www.pregnancy.org to track my cycle, and plan on using it again in the future.


38 posted on 02/10/2006 7:40:24 AM PST by arizonarachel
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Not all women are as "easy to read" as others.

You are right. No two women are the same and that is why the crusty old method of Rhythm or even the crust old method of Rhythm combined with "taking the woman's temperature" didn't work for a hill of beans!

But with today's NFP and/or this program even women who have wacky/long/erratic cycles can easily chart their signs and get the same amount of abstain time as a set-your-clock-by-her "regular" woman. Today's NFP reacts to stress or sicknesses in every woman's life. Only addition and subtraction needed. No calculus, trigonometry, particle theory, physics or chemistry needed - like the moon program or PhD and operating room - for open heart surgery.
39 posted on 02/10/2006 7:48:31 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: klossg
I have a quick method of determining if someone has seen the main international NFP video series.

All I have to do is hold one hand out and slowly bring my index finger together with my thumb and then apart and then together again.

If they start laughing uncontrollably I know they've seen the video.

Not a jab against NFP just kinda' an inside joke. (rain cloud)

40 posted on 02/10/2006 7:48:49 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: klossg
There's always the chance of that "irregular cycle"


41 posted on 02/10/2006 7:50:02 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: klossg
And I agree with you that it still doesn't make knowing when a woman is fertile ... comparable to open heart surgery or landing on the moon or flying a jet at 8 times the speed of sound.

You're right about that. My own experience is that when I feel the urge, as it were, it's extremely probable that another baby will be on the way :-). "Would you like to go watch a movie, or would you like to have a baby in 9 months?"

Observing fertility can be fairly complex, especially when one is breastfeeding. I have two children for whom we couldn't identify a probable date of conception on my charts. Not that that's bad - vis. my earlier post regarding "can't be surprised"!

42 posted on 02/10/2006 7:50:08 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: sauropod
If she is having sex with Bubba, then you might consider worrying about more basic issues than purchasing a palm pilot. But, that's just me. Good luck with Bubba!
43 posted on 02/10/2006 7:51:13 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: arizonarachel

Thanks for that website. Way to go on using NFP!


44 posted on 02/10/2006 7:52:09 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: avg_freeper
Exactly. A little knowledge adds even to the number of jokes you can laugh at. I do dig all the inside NFP jokes. Shows how un-uptight we all are about sex!
45 posted on 02/10/2006 7:54:24 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: TXBubba

My wife says the same thing, however, when I leave my cell phone rings and I get yelled at for leaving.


46 posted on 02/10/2006 7:55:12 AM PST by kx9088
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To: klossg

Thanks...in the beginning, though, I miscalculated my date of ovulation, which caused me to get pregnant. Then, unfortunately, I had a miscarriage. We went from being shocked and surprised, to excited and in love with the baby, to being shocked and surprised, and lastly very very sad. As soon as things even out with my body, I'll start using it again. I just pray that we are blessed again. (we went from never wanting kids to really wanting them!)


47 posted on 02/10/2006 7:59:29 AM PST by arizonarachel
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To: xsmommy
keep track of the INFO you perv! warn't no fancy computer programs back then ; )

Oh, and here I was thinking you were one of those really good wives.

48 posted on 02/10/2006 8:31:06 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: arizonarachel
we went from never wanting kids to really wanting them!

I hear you! I'll say a prayer that you get what you want.

We know a couple who used NFP from the start. Their Honeymoon just happened to coincide with their fertile week! Lucky???? They were bummed to say the least and were planning to do everything else on their honeymoon but the act that makes a honeymoon not just another vacation.

But, during the honeymoon, in their newly married energy, they decided to throw caution to the wind. They knew that they might end up with a baby. 9 months later they had a baby boy!!!

They loved that little boy so much that they right away tried to conceive again. Twenty two years later they have not been able to conceive. There are fertility issues. They have really thanked God for throwing caution to the wind on their honeymoon.

Mice and men. And all our plans. It is funny sometimes what happens, isn't it?
49 posted on 02/10/2006 8:33:49 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: klossg

So true! I'm praying that I'm able to get pregnant again - just because it was so "easy" the first time, I'm worried it will be hard because we'll actually be trying again.


50 posted on 02/10/2006 8:36:24 AM PST by arizonarachel
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