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Cattle kills by wolves cost ranchers $20,000
http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2006/02/08/news/news1.txt ^ | Carole Cloudwalker

Posted on 02/09/2006 8:49:03 PM PST by george76

confirmed killed by wolves...

the confirmed kills varied from the reported animal deaths and values, which came to 40 animals valued at roughly $40,000.

He cautioned people not to draw conclusions about the confirmed numbers, because unconfirmed kills are often those in which the livestock is discovered too late to actually identify, by tracks, tooth marks or other means, the actual cause of death.

Their agency is part of the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) in the U.S. Department of Agriculture, though they often are mistaken for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which is part of the Interior Department...

hazing and “harassing” wolves ...

Pehringer said before last year, “ranchers didn't feel they were getting a fair shake” with wolf predation, but now help is available upon request.

“It's still emotional ... with people seeing wolves in their sleep,” ...

(Excerpt) Read more at codyenterprise.com ...


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1 posted on 02/09/2006 8:49:04 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Ever wonder why the fools that want to bring back the wolves either don`t work for a living or live far away?


2 posted on 02/09/2006 8:57:38 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: george76

Shoot, shovel, shhhh.


3 posted on 02/09/2006 8:58:36 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: bybybill

Usually they live in big cities.

Being nice, one can assume that they are just ignorant.


4 posted on 02/09/2006 9:02:46 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: bybybill

Maybe if the Nature Channel would ever show a wolf killing calves, some of this nonsense would stop.


5 posted on 02/09/2006 9:03:31 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: george76

SSS

The next license plate.


6 posted on 02/09/2006 9:03:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: homemom

ping

Do you have this problem?


7 posted on 02/09/2006 9:05:20 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: bybybill

 

"Say, I've found a perfect spot to catch us a bear."

"How can you be sure?"

"I saw a sign that said Fine for Hunting."


8 posted on 02/09/2006 9:08:18 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
They could get some of those dogs that guard cattle from wolves like the Great Pyrenees.

Unless North American wolves are larger than European wolves.

9 posted on 02/09/2006 9:09:05 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: george76

I want to see these wolves "reintroduced" to Central Park.


10 posted on 02/09/2006 9:10:22 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Mike Darancette

That looks good.

Also Mules work well against coyotes and other snakes.

Just kick the heck out of a snake.


11 posted on 02/09/2006 9:12:47 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: B Knotts

Also near the compounds by the Swimmer and JFK.


12 posted on 02/09/2006 9:16:08 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Also Mules work well against coyotes and other snakes.

Llama's are great at kicking the snot out of coyotes.

13 posted on 02/09/2006 9:17:06 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: SJackson

Wolf predation ping.


14 posted on 02/09/2006 9:33:10 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I have nothing else to say - for now.)
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To: Mike Darancette

I had one of those dogs. Had a big grin on his face as he dared two coyotes to come fight him.

On the other hand, you obviously have never seen open range.


15 posted on 02/09/2006 9:33:59 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart
On the other hand, you obviously have never seen open range.

Yes I have and it is way different than where sheep and cattle are raised in Europe. A little hard to guard 1,000 head of cattle spread over many square miles.

16 posted on 02/09/2006 10:13:34 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Mike Darancette

That is a gorgeous looking dog. I wonder how much one of those cost in the U.S?


17 posted on 02/09/2006 10:45:40 PM PST by No2much3 (I did not ask for this user name, but I will keep it !)
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To: george76

Apparently, PETA's convincing wolves to just eat IAMS isn't working. Hecky durn, who could'a figured otherwise?


18 posted on 02/09/2006 10:48:03 PM PST by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: No2much3
I wonder how much one of those cost in the U.S?

Seems like $300-$600, $800 and up for AKC and show dogs.

19 posted on 02/09/2006 11:12:44 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; MozartLover; ...

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20 posted on 02/10/2006 5:52:37 AM PST by SJackson ("Bin Laden our beloved, Denmark must be blown up," protesters in Ramallah)
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To: SJackson

Yes, the shoot, shovel and shut up is the best to do in this instance.


21 posted on 02/10/2006 5:58:32 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

Better to gut shoot them so they die several miles away.

Makes it pretty hard to prove who shot it.


22 posted on 02/10/2006 6:42:45 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Now that is a dog. Probably could swallow my pug in one gulp.
23 posted on 02/10/2006 6:45:56 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Beagle8U

That's even better, you don't have to dig a hole.


24 posted on 02/10/2006 6:55:15 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

Exactly...and even with a tracking collar they will be a long way from to person that shot them.


25 posted on 02/10/2006 7:14:30 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Beagle8U

I'd recommend that you clean up the blood trail, but can't think of any treehuggers or their buddies in government who are bright enough to recognize, let alone follow one.


26 posted on 02/10/2006 9:28:42 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Not much of a blood trail if they are gut shot with a 22-250 with FMJ bullets.

They just have a "real bad day", and even if they don't die days later and miles away, they will never be back in that area again.


27 posted on 02/10/2006 9:55:59 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Beagle8U

Guess I'll have to fill a hole in my arsenal AND my philosophy.

Once I get past the .22 Mag/over/.410 that I use for varmits, I'm generally into 12ga buckshot or my .300 WinMag and have always been taught to shoot to kill on the first pop.

Think I'll just stick with packing a shovel along.


28 posted on 02/10/2006 12:02:38 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

Thanks for the ping . . . yes, occasionally a coyote will kill a calf. Right now the big thing around here is bobcats and mountain lions which the gov't, in all their wisdom, has turned loose to thin the deer population. You see, the deer have, and are spreading wasting disease, partially because there are too many deer. So, you ask, why not just allow the hunters to kill more deer each season? Because that would be too easy! Let's introduce NON-native animals to the area to kill the deer, forgetting that they also kill cattle, dogs, and potentially small children. There haven't been any small kids killed, but a horse was killed by them, and footprints have been found within a few 100 feet of homes. Including my in-law's.


29 posted on 02/10/2006 3:59:45 PM PST by homemom
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To: Wormwood

That's what mr.h always says! But first, cut off he tracking tag and throw it out in a ditch somewhere.


30 posted on 02/10/2006 4:01:29 PM PST by homemom
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To: Mike Darancette
or they could get a caucasian ovtcharka guard dog,these dogs are very good at their job.they will take on a bear.they are one of the best guard dogs i have seen.if i were a rancher this would be the one to get.....
31 posted on 02/12/2006 9:29:28 AM PST by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: B Knotts
I want to see these wolves "reintroduced" to Central Park.

Take a walk around Central Park late night and you'll get to meet some wolves. Mean ones. Guaranteed.

32 posted on 02/12/2006 9:33:07 AM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: george76

Wolf predation is just another cost of doing business--not much different than bolweevils or aphids.


33 posted on 02/12/2006 9:49:54 AM PST by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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To: primrose
Caucasian Ovtcharka

That is a BIG Dog.

34 posted on 02/12/2006 10:59:23 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Mike Darancette

We have a lot of these dogs in Texas. They are usually out with sheep and goats. We have a lot of predators, mostly coyotes, who can rapidly decimate a flock. I've owned two Pyrenees and they are wonderful dogs. You simply don't have to worry about predation with them in the flock. The male I had was about 125 lbs, and they can be bigger.


35 posted on 02/12/2006 11:07:14 AM PST by SuzyQue
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