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NYPD Adds Dodge Muscle Car to Its Fleet
AP ^ | Thu Feb 9, 6:48 PM ET | TOM HAYS

Posted on 02/10/2006 4:26:50 AM PST by IndyTiger

The New York Police Department is adding some muscle to its car fleet: the 2006 Dodge Charger, whose 1969 model is best remembered for outrunning a hapless sheriff in "The Dukes of Hazzard."

The department plans to buy 15 police versions of the car for a pilot program that will begin this summer, officials said Thursday.

In a recent analysis by Michigan State Police, Chargers equipped with a V-8 engine had the quickest acceleration (6.52 seconds to 60 mph) and fastest lap time (150 mph) of any police vehicle tested.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: automobile; automotive; dodge; donutwatch; leo; muscle; musclecars; nypd
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Very cool.


1 posted on 02/10/2006 4:26:52 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: IndyTiger

Jeepers, does this mean the Crown Vic's soon to be on the endangered species list?


2 posted on 02/10/2006 4:27:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

And how fast can one actually go on the streets of NYC?


3 posted on 02/10/2006 4:28:32 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: IndyTiger

by the same logic, they should have gotten vipers


4 posted on 02/10/2006 4:29:25 AM PST by Revelation 911 (God is love, Love endures forever, Love God, Love your neighbor, Vengeance is mine)
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To: IndyTiger
very cool

cooler

5 posted on 02/10/2006 4:31:21 AM PST by Revelation 911 (God is love, Love endures forever, Love God, Love your neighbor, Vengeance is mine)
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To: mewzilla
And how fast can one actually go on the streets of NYC?

Exactly! Another waste of tax dollars.

6 posted on 02/10/2006 4:34:19 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

LOL. Heck, haven't been there since Giuliani was mayor, but I could run faster than the traffic was going.


7 posted on 02/10/2006 4:35:39 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: IndyTiger

I knew this was coming. When Chrysler stopped making rear wheel drive cars a long time ago Chevy and Ford had the cab and police car marlet locked up, then GM stupidly stopped making their rear wheel drive Impala and Ford had the market to themselves.

Now the Charger comes on line with rear wheel drive and a 6 liter hemi engine that makes you sit back in the seat with acceleration and handles well and Ford has some competition., I expect some forces to buy the Magnum also.

Front wheel drive is fine if you dont require superior coirnering an handling and you underpower the car, but when you put power in a car they wont handle the strain, and they wont turn for crap. Front wheel drive has been tried in most racing venues and dropped for just that reason, lousy handling.


8 posted on 02/10/2006 4:36:17 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: IndyTiger

I assume it's for highway patrol units..


9 posted on 02/10/2006 4:36:34 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: mewzilla

I've seen traffic jams on Second Ave at 1:00 a.m.


10 posted on 02/10/2006 4:39:13 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Revelation 911
It's got cop tires, cop suspension, and it was made before the catalytic converter so it will run good on regular gas.

Is it the new blues mobile or what?

11 posted on 02/10/2006 4:39:35 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: mewzilla; Labyrinthos

And how fast can one actually go on the streets of NYC?

give it to a good cabbie and he could do three digits in bumper to bumper traffic.


12 posted on 02/10/2006 4:40:46 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: Labyrinthos

With kids souping up the Honda's and Toyota's and putting nitrous in them ,and street racing on the rise, I will let the cops judge what they need.


13 posted on 02/10/2006 4:42:13 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: IndyTiger
Tut! Lucky yank coppers! All the plod here in England get to chase you in are Jags and Lotuses! Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
14 posted on 02/10/2006 4:43:09 AM PST by albionvectis
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To: JohnLongIsland
give it to a good cabbie and he could do three digits in bumper to bumper traffic.

LOL. Next time I'm there, I'll have to hire me one of those :)

15 posted on 02/10/2006 4:43:34 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ChadGore
Is it the new blues mobile or what?

Fix the cigarette lighter.

16 posted on 02/10/2006 4:47:03 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: sgtbono2002

With all due respect, you know very little about the streets of NYC. IMO, this is nothing, but an expensive toy.


17 posted on 02/10/2006 4:47:21 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

If you haven't driven the R/T version you are missing out. With the TracCont off in NYC, you could paint rubber from one light to the next as long as you started braking at 50' from the next red light.

I too agree that I am sure these will be used on the highways for those white knuckle hot pursuit chases that New York is famous for.


18 posted on 02/10/2006 4:47:46 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: IndyTiger

In FL, the Highway patrol has all kinds of exotic vehicles due to confiscation of property under drug laws.


19 posted on 02/10/2006 4:48:41 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. -Coulter)
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To: Revelation 911

Fix the lighter.


20 posted on 02/10/2006 4:49:07 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. -Coulter)
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To: mewzilla
Jeepers, does this mean the Crown Vic's soon to be on the endangered species list?

Yep, a lot of state police departments are testing Chargers now. It meets the rear-wheel-drive requirement most have plus its got lots of oomph.

21 posted on 02/10/2006 4:51:22 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: ovrtaxt

Indiana State Police has a small contingent of Mustang GTs, Ford Explorers, camaros and Taurusses that are unmarked with smoked windows. Years ago I about dumped hot coffee on my lap when a tailgaiting maroon camaro litup like a circuis in my rear vew mirror between Martinsville and Bloomington on US 37. Lucky for me he was more interested in the young lad that had just raced passed us.

I still see oddities with concealed lights here and there around the state.


22 posted on 02/10/2006 4:53:26 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: JoeGar

I can see how state PDs and sheriffs departments could make good use of them. I guess I just wonder about metro PDs. Seems like overkill. Hope the car gets good city MPGs.


23 posted on 02/10/2006 4:56:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: sgtbono2002

I'm shopping right now- the Impala is pretty strong at 305 hp, and it gets 28 mpg due to the variable cylinder shut-down technology.

But no rwd and no 6-speed. Plus it looks like an Accord.

What a waste of hp.

The GTO has all that, and it's screaming fast, but still kind of lame looking. The new Camaro will be out in 09, and it should be monstrous. Looks kind of like a 69!

I'm still waiting for a new incarnation of the '70 429 Hemi Cuda.


24 posted on 02/10/2006 4:56:17 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. -Coulter)
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To: IndyTiger

Badass police mobile.


25 posted on 02/10/2006 4:59:55 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: sgtbono2002

Since the statute of limitations has run out and since I no longer engage in the behavior described, I am willing to tell this story:

Many years ago I once out-manuevered/out-ran a Virginia State Trooper, who was driving a Crown Vic. I was driving a 1980 Subaru DL with 186,000 miles on its odometer, in front-drive-only mode. He came out to get me when I was running about 85 mph (more or less the top speed of that crate) on Rt 8 (heading West). I turned onto the very next side road (633, I think) to try to lose him. He followed, almost putting his car in the ditch as he turned off Rt 8.

I saw his headlights in the mirror for about 1/2 - 3/4 mile, and through about 5 or 6 relatively tight turns, and then I saw him no more. I never once went below 60 mph even in the right angle turn off Rt 8.

I like rear wheel drive cars with lots of power becasue they are easier to trail-brake ans because they allow you to steer with the throttle when you need to. However, I have driven front wheel drive cars for quite a number of years and have quite a bit of fun driving them. It's best to do ALL your braking before corner entry and then accelerate all the way through the turn.

The bottom line is, it doesn't matter what a cop is given to drive if he doesn't know how to drive it.


26 posted on 02/10/2006 5:02:39 AM PST by WayneS (Follow the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: mewzilla
"And how fast can one actually go on the streets of NYC?"

Well, if it's anything like the General Lee, they'll be able to jump over the traffic snarls, bend the frame all to hell, and morph back into perfect condition by the time it rounds the next corner.

27 posted on 02/10/2006 5:03:03 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: ovrtaxt

"I'm still waiting for a new incarnation of the '70 429 Hemi Cuda."

I'm not auto expert, but...
I think that recently announced Challenger is about as close as
you'll get. I don't know when it rolls out; it was covered in a recent
"Car And Driver".


28 posted on 02/10/2006 5:04:06 AM PST by VOA
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To: mewzilla

Pretty fast going by some of the cab rides I have had. I recall one in particular from Battery Park to the Times Square area that would have made any NASCAR driver proud.


29 posted on 02/10/2006 5:05:16 AM PST by xp38
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To: Tenacious 1

30 posted on 02/10/2006 5:08:21 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. -Coulter)
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To: VOA

Ditto

The Barracuda was a Plymouth, and they're gone.


31 posted on 02/10/2006 5:09:13 AM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: IndyTiger

In another article about this, it said that the engine was a 5.7 liter--wouldn't that do a bit better 0-60 then they reported in the article? Under 6 secs. I would imagine...perhaps a gear head can enlighten me.


32 posted on 02/10/2006 5:09:19 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: VOA
Found it!


33 posted on 02/10/2006 5:14:08 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. -Coulter)
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To: WayneS

I would say your case is one in a million , I think you got lucky.

Police cars are not just high powerd toys. Police receive special training in how to drive them, The shock absorbers are heavy duty to hold the turns better the tires are of a softer compound the radiator is larger. The police dont do well in car chases just because they drive faster. They are in a piece of equipment that is better set up for the chase than the average ride of the people they are chasing. When all else fails they have communications on board to call ahead for friends. Yes I would say you were lucky.
You got away with making a stupid mistake. You should have slowed down and stopped at the nearest Lottery supplier and bought a ticket. That was your lucky day.


34 posted on 02/10/2006 5:15:35 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: VOA
Wow, the seats even look the same. Still a concept car, but hopefully...


35 posted on 02/10/2006 5:16:01 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. -Coulter)
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To: Tenacious 1

The Ford Explorer can be improved with a conversion kit that greatly improves power and handling. One retail kit is from Saleen. Be willing to bet that some of the Saleen conversion tricks find their way into a police Explorer.

Texas DPS has been using police upgraded Mustangs as interceptors. Don't know if they have the top end of the Crown Vic. What I have heard about the Crown Vics is little can get away from them on the interstate. The Chevy Caprice Classic was still better handling than the Ford.

Some city police departments in Texas have been using Tauruses (one being West University Place). Biggest complaint has been failing and worn engine mounts, followed by transmissions (front wheel drive and police "lights and siren" is a lousy combination).


36 posted on 02/10/2006 5:19:33 AM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: ovrtaxt

I drove a Magnum with the six cylinder and it had plenty of power, the hemi version must be a monster, and now the Chrysler folks have two hemi's out, The 350 CI one and one that is up over 400 CI.

The Ford folks have a pickup with a Power Stroke Diesel in a 6 liter version. Take out the slow chip and put in one that doesnt quit at 100 mph. get a kit that allows you to set the horsepower where you want it fom the Dash , and hold on to your hat,. You need to place the transfer case in 4 wheel drive high to get it off the line, but it will put a grin on your face.


37 posted on 02/10/2006 5:22:11 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: IndyTiger

Cool but why don't they buy a American car?


38 posted on 02/10/2006 5:23:41 AM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: IndyTiger

I've always been a Mopar fan and have been since the days of the Max Wedge in the early '60's. But that is one butt-ugly Charger. Can't begin to compare with the 1968 and 1969 Dodge Charger in any way, except is has a powerful engine

Four doors? Too many.


39 posted on 02/10/2006 5:25:51 AM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: VOA

Um, its 426 Hemi, not 429. 429 "Boss" Hemi was a Ford engine.

Typo?


40 posted on 02/10/2006 5:28:31 AM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Labyrinthos

You are right, the little I know about NY streets is from trips there. The street seemed to be adorned with potholes and went up and down like a roller coaster as some were paved at different time and little effort was made to smooth the transition.

With all due respect I would suspect the NYPD knows a little about those streets and are better fit to judge than you what they need. I see they only bought ten of the big motor cars and some of the 6 cylinder models. I would imagine they would put the big motors where they feel they need them, and probably use them at night when the traffic is light and people tend to go a little faster.

Sorry our opinions arent the same, but thats what makes horse Races.


41 posted on 02/10/2006 5:28:53 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: IndyTiger

This "muscle car" is slower than an Accord V6 MT


42 posted on 02/10/2006 5:39:15 AM PST by ElTianti
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To: IndyTiger

In other news, Former Davidson County sheriff Gerald Hege has just announced he's accepting a post as asskicker on the NYPD.


43 posted on 02/10/2006 5:40:34 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: VOA

["I'm still waiting for a new incarnation of the '70 429 Hemi Cuda."

I'm not auto expert, but...
I think that recently announced Challenger is about as close as
you'll get. I don't know when it rolls out; it was covered in a recent
"Car And Driver".]


Fellas, you can order a 429 Hemi crate motor from the internet. All printed, balanced, documented and dynoed. Hold on to your seat. It comes with a warranty. It pushes 500HP, costs $12,000 and comes race ready. Throw a fuel feeder on top, add and electrical source shoe horn it some stout MOPAR product (preferrably with seatbelts), fire it up and hold on!!!!


44 posted on 02/10/2006 5:48:20 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Sweet!
45 posted on 02/10/2006 5:50:32 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: albionvectis

I would be honored to be pulled over by a cop who has that car! ;)


46 posted on 02/10/2006 5:52:34 AM PST by Theoden (Fidei Defensor - Deus vult!)
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To: WayneS

I have one of those stories too, but I was driving a 1969 Bonneville 428. Turned out it was much faster then the Trooper's Impala, back in about '74.


47 posted on 02/10/2006 5:54:27 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: Supernatural

You are right. 426 not 429.

Best motor for power is Ford's 460CU. Long Block with lots of vesatility. Make much horse power.


48 posted on 02/10/2006 5:55:01 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: IndyTiger

Have they bothered to buy radios that work yet?


49 posted on 02/10/2006 6:06:31 AM PST by D-Chivas
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To: ovrtaxt

The 475hp Shelby GT500 comes out this summer. The latest Motor Trend mag says that the new 400hp Camaro will be out in 2009 or 2010. I am hoping the Camaro SS will have the 505hp LS7 in it.


50 posted on 02/10/2006 6:08:34 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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