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Science losing war over evolution? Harvard Screening airs evolution versus ID debate
Harvard Gazette ^ | 02/09/2006 | Alvin Powell, Harvard news Office

Posted on 02/10/2006 10:18:17 AM PST by SirLinksalot

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To: SirLinksalot

The debate means nothing to scientists or to science.


21 posted on 02/10/2006 1:49:08 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: SirLinksalot

"..probes how it is that, 150 years after Darwin published his theories and 80 years after the Scopes Monkey Trial, a debate over evolution is raging in this country."

Its because there is an element among Christian circles who are uncannily analogous to their Islamic counterparts in following a literal interpretation of their scriptures.

If somebody doesn't want to believe in evolution, they can believe frogs are spawned from contaminated water and flies from decaying meat for all I care. But they shouldn't be permitted to inject personal religious views into what is scientific discussion, anymore than scientists should be preaching morality and theology.


22 posted on 02/10/2006 1:55:40 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: orionblamblam
Three cheers for the pharmaceutical industry!

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner folks. The most ignorant statement made at FR today.

Seriously though - and sadly - you have no idea how far you are from the truth.

And what is the truth? Your bias' have blinded you.

Know Thyself - Socrates

23 posted on 02/10/2006 2:10:56 PM PST by jonno
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To: jonno
Ah. So, medicines *don't* often help the violently mentally ill become more peaceful. That must be another one of those lies by the evil psychiatrists and psychologists.

Why, I guess I'd better go sell all my pharmaceutical stock and invest in Scientology! Thank you for showing me the light, O Tom Cruise!


24 posted on 02/10/2006 2:55:51 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: Mark Felton
Why do molecules frolicking in the soup wish to reproduce and live at all? There must be a "life force", if you like, that drives the molecules to expend energy in the direction of reproduction.

You are a few hundred years behind. The details of biochemistry and metabolism are pretty well understood at this point. There is no need to invoke any kind of mysterious "life force" to explain biological systems.

And there is no "wishing" of any kind. A molecule that can "reproduce" is simply catalyzing copies of itself and be overrepresented in a pool of other molecules (isnt this self evident?). Get enough of these replicators to band together and you have the beginnings of a metabolism and "life".

25 posted on 02/10/2006 3:21:32 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: DallasMike

You recount a personal experience. There are many such testimonials as to the power of the Channel to Rama, as to astrology, as to prayer to Allah, as to seeing a UFO, so one account seems to have little value scientifically. It can not be reproducibly observed by independent observers.

It is an anecdote, but not science. Hearing whispers in the mind that says "God tells me so and so" is not a reliable guide. Many scoundrels have made the same claim as you do.


26 posted on 02/10/2006 3:53:44 PM PST by thomaswest (Labeling: My religion is the one true faith; yours is a cult.)
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To: orionblamblam
Ah. So, medicines *don't* often help the violently mentally ill become more peaceful. That must be another one of those lies by the evil psychiatrists and psychologists.

I don't know wether to laugh or just shake my head. Please try to follow the "thread" of thought.

Who said "medicines don't help the violently mentally ill"? - it wasn't me.

Please re-read the previous thread and maybe this time try to think outside you "sarcastic" box.

Sheesh...

27 posted on 02/10/2006 4:24:01 PM PST by jonno
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To: Mark Felton

Well said, Brother!


28 posted on 02/10/2006 4:29:48 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("For those who have fought for it, life (and freedom) bears a savor the protected will never know.")
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To: SirLinksalot

Goliath complains, but David was so BIG, I never had a chance. Yeah right.


29 posted on 02/10/2006 4:41:55 PM PST by ChessExpert (MSM: America's one party press)
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To: SirLinksalot

Same ole' same ole.. "We're not getting our message out".
Bwahahahahahahaha. Truly priceless - right along with the mock niceties while still maintaining the pretense. IE - the only thing new is that they're saying the same things while pandering to the winning side.. ID. They might as well have requested the terms of their own surrender. *chortle*


30 posted on 02/10/2006 4:53:10 PM PST by Havoc
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To: TheDon

So you think that God created you so that you would like food that's bad for you? Is that your proof intelligent design?


31 posted on 02/10/2006 6:48:56 PM PST by hail to the chief (Use your conservatism liberally)
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To: TheDon

True for food. But isn't beer the "best" drink for us?


32 posted on 02/10/2006 8:20:57 PM PST by moog
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To: Mark Felton
Science now affirms that up to 10, possibily 11, dimensions exist and we live in only 4. Science also says those other dimensions may overlap or have interfaces, branes, in ours and other dimensions. Science suggests some of those other 6 dimensions may include 2 additional dimensions of time, thus the concept of timelessness becomes possible.

It's fascinating to be sure, enough to give me dimensionia.:)

33 posted on 02/10/2006 8:22:02 PM PST by moog
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To: balrog666
Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history. - RAH

Rah was a pretty powerful god you know. I wouldn't call him too unproductive. :) Then again, SG 1 got him pretty easily.

34 posted on 02/10/2006 8:23:49 PM PST by moog
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To: Mark Felton

"Current evolutionary theories suggest Shakespeare can be written by random ordering of letters over time."

EIOUEOIKEJKLNMLVKFJEKLEF EJIOPWEJIOWEJFWO OEJFIOWEJIOwE

Crap! Didn't work again!!!!!!


35 posted on 02/10/2006 8:25:15 PM PST by moog
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To: maplegrover

) is established on pure fantasy

It's established on faith as in my belief in ID being a method of God's creation. I can't "prove" that because I came to that conclusion on my own through my own experiences.


36 posted on 02/10/2006 8:27:10 PM PST by moog
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To: jonno

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner folks. The most ignorant statement made at FR today.

Apparently, you've never read any of my posts. I'm insulted. How could you give it to him?


37 posted on 02/10/2006 8:29:28 PM PST by moog
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To: Criminal Number 18F

And most science departments have janitors who are smarter than many high school science teachers, and just about all grade school science teachers.

Fun statements and the last statement is true around here BECAUSE THERE AREN'T any grade school science teachers here. Boy, old Delbert could have been a professor. Well I'll be!!


38 posted on 02/10/2006 8:30:57 PM PST by moog
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To: Criminal Number 18F

I recently answered a high-schooler's question, on where did all the breeds of dogs come from.

From the horny chihuahua down the block.


39 posted on 02/10/2006 8:31:54 PM PST by moog
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To: jonno

> Who said "medicines don't help the violently mentally ill"?

That was your implication with this scintillating statement: "The most ignorant statement made at FR today."

If you find the idea of pharmaceuticals helping people to be "ignorant," then it's fair to say that you feel that they don't help people.

Please, DO try and keep up with the adults. If you don't try, you'll never grow up.


40 posted on 02/10/2006 8:32:14 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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