Science losing war over evolution? Harvard Screening airs evolution versus ID debate

Harvard Gazette ^ | 02/09/2006 | Alvin Powell, Harvard news Office

[wallcrawlr]

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[LiteKeeper]

The efforts to teach intelligent design in the schools is backed by media-savvy, well-financed organizations like the Discovery Institute

The Discovery Institute has repeatedly and clearly stated they are not in favor of ID being taught in public schools!

[RunningWolf]

Thanks for the ping wallcrawlr.

It would be nice if at least for one thread out of a thousand, the administrators of this site would restrict the serial evo-nutcases from that one out of a thousand thread so people could have a real dialog.

I think thats what most of us came for, and you see what people get.

I could say more, but then I would have to allude and infer to the white elephant in the living room.

Regards,

Wolf

[RunningWolf]

maplegrover these characters you refer too in this thread.

What you see the is pretty much representative of the state of affairs.

There are several like this that pretty much have the run of the whole place in the manner you see, and what you see there is only the tip of the iceberg. Talk about serial? look for the same kind of pus message going back hundreds/thousands of times from the sorts.

Then there are a few more that show up with the same kind of garbage, and then interlace their sac-religious anti-Christian imagery with some moderately veiled white supremacy crap.

Let me guess, you came for dialog and this is what is thrown at you. Well get used to it.

Wolf

[RobbyS]

The most preposterous notion is this caricature.

[RunningWolf]

the refusal to allow the scientific flaws with evolution to be brought into the class room. That's what really has been going on and that's what all the backlash is about

Yes at the core that is the issue. The theory of evo //that they want so much to be as real as gravity// is going into the dust bin of history.

Oh it may live on in cult of like minds for some time.

Wolf

[RunningWolf]

FYI that caricature is a R. Heinlein quote I think.

They quote R. Heinlein as their prophet.

Let them go onto him.

Wolf

[little jeremiah]

Good evening!

Up late, are we?

The blind rage, scorn which covers howling fear, as evidenced by the most absolutist refusal to debate rationally, reveals the evofundies for what they are.

They want to believe, so they believe. Their need and desire to believe that there is no reason, no cause, no God, no soul, no divine order enthralls them totally. They are even more locked in a small box of their own making than the pro-drug guys.

They tremble underneath their anger. They have exoskeletons that seem hard and scarey, and underneath, they're just naked quivering little things. All shell, no substance. All exterior and no innards. All armor and no stout heart.

Of course, they can change. I did. I used to "believe" not only in the TOE but in all sorts of other nonsense as well. The door is always open, but people can stay in the little box if that's what they want.

[little jeremiah]

I was really influenced by Heinlein when I was around 15 years old - "Stranger in a Strange Land" etc. Thought it was so profound, and it helped influence me into rejecting sexual morality. Helped.

Years later, I re-read it (in a couple of hours). I was totally amazed how shallow and ill-written it was. Tripe. Garbage. Like a junk comic book without pictures.

[hail to the chief]

Let's review:

1. People like food that is bad for them.
2. This contradicts evolution, as people never should have evolved this way
3. Therefore, people must have their bad habits because of an intelligent designer.

Very interesting logic you creationists have.

[RobbyS]

Get it right. People have bad habits because of free will.

[TheDon]

You got it! :^)

[moog]

That whole posting is taken staight from the Creationism Handbook of Catch Phrases.

Well, like a "catcher" in the rye, I was able to "catch" some grief and "catch" up on some things.

The statements were "catches" all right, must have been an early bird "catching" the worm or maybe simply just a "catch-all." "Catching" on is even better as you can be a "catch" with red hands or a "catch" with your pants down if not. I think it was "catching" instead. Maybe it will "catch" on someday.

[moog]

"The most ignorant statement made at FR today."

I get NO respect, no respect....

[moog]

The Discovery Institute has repeatedly and clearly stated they are not in favor of ID being taught in public schools!

Elaborate on that.

[WKB]

I like catchup on my french fries.
Does that count?

[moog]

and infer to the white elephant in the living room.

The pink hyena in mine says hello.

[moog]

What facilitated the change LJ? Glad to see you up and at 'em.

[WKUHilltopper]

"They often see no necessity to do so, and our society as a whole suffers for it," Dean said."

Funny, but after my 23 years of managerial experience, I have yet to write a report or made a presentation to any board of directors explaining how evolution fits into a business model. Now maybe if I worked for a banana importer, a discussion of monkeys and evolution might then be relevant.

[moog]

I like catchup on my french fries.
Does that count?

As long as you don't get "caught up" too much into it.