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Posted on 02/11/2006 4:11:34 PM PST by Revel
Boy charged with felony for carrying sugar
BY JUSTINA WANG A 12-year-old Aurora boy who said he brought powdered sugar to school for a science project this week has been charged with a felony for possessing a look-alike drug, Aurora police have confirmed.
The sixth-grade student at Waldo Middle School was also suspended for two weeks from school after showing the bag of powdered sugar to his friends.
The boy, who is not being identified because he is a juvenile, said he brought the bag to school to ask his science teacher if he could run an experiment using sugar.
Two other boys asked if the bag contained cocaine after he showed it to them in the bathroom Wednesday morning, the boy's mother said.
He joked that it was cocaine, before telling them, "just kidding," she said.
Aurora police arrested the boy after a custodian at the school reported the boy's comments. The youngster was taken to the police station and detained, before being released to his parents that afternoon.
"This is getting ridiculous," said the boy's mother. "They treated my son like a criminal. .. . This is no way to treat a 12-year-old kid."
East Aurora School District officials declined to comment on the case, citing privacy issues.
The district issued a written statement, which said: "The dangers of illegal drugs and controlled substances are clear.
Could get probation "Look-alike drugs and substances can cause that same level of danger because staff and students are not equipped to differentiate between the two."
The school handbook states that students can be suspended or expelled for carrying a look-alike drug.
Penalties for juveniles are decided on a case-by-case basis, but if convicted, the sixth-grader could likely face up to five years' probation, said Jeffery Jefko, deputy director of Kane County juvenile court services.
Juveniles who have prior criminal records could also be placed in a residential treatment program if convicted, he said.
That only works until some idiotic educrat comes up with an off-the-wall interpretation of policy, as in this case.
Whereupon they refuse to dance with the one what brung 'em.
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elkfersupper was addressing school policy not state law.
"I phone call to the parent, and a stern chat with the principal should be enough in most rational situations."
So you agree with a school policy prohibiting look-alike drugs. Well, elkfersupper doesn't. So there.
No lookalike drug violation.
What's so "off-the-wall" about interpreting a white-powder filled baggie claimed to be cocaine as violating a no-look-alike-drug school policy?
Brung a different one next time. They'll get the message.
The boy will be traumatized, he could end up stabbing his mother....
Once it was determined to be neither cocaine, nor lookalike cocaine, but in fact powdered sugar, the kid should have been told by someone not to do that anymore, and that should have been the end of the story.
Think about that one for a second.If you get convicted of having sugar you can be put in a state rehab program what are you going to say at the meetings?Hello im john smith and im a sugaholic.Its been three weeks since I ate a powdered donut.at first it was just a tablespoon here and there to get me going in themornings but then the addiction got its claws in me and I moved up to the harder stuff brown sugar.But I still thought I could quit anytime I wanted until I started dosing with nutrasweet that eventually lead me down the dark road of splenda.After that I lost my job my wife and kids left me and I was living on skid row begging for spare change and giving strangers lewinskys in the bus station bathroom for pixie stick money before i ended up here.
this is the most retarded abuse of power by a school system under zero tolerance that ive seen in a long time and another constitution destroying aspect of the war on some drugs that is rabidly turnig us into a police state so of course a lot of people here on freerepublic support it. I wish to hell those people that support this crap would get off of here and start thier own website called www.enslaved statist.com because its apparent that they arent happy posting on freerepublic and they are absolutly miserable living in a free republic.
I have a fiance living in the philippines right now and I am very seriously thinking of moving there after i marry her and becoming a philippino citizen.I really dont see this country survivng more then 10 or 15 years as the usa maybe and quiet possibly it will be the u.s.s.a but thats not a country I want to be in so I will probably jump over the new berlin wall before its built because it will be way to hard to do so afterwords.
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Actually, I would allow real guns. Every day of high school, I had a loaded rifle in a gun rack in my vehicle. Had I unlimbered it and proceeded to get into mischief, I would have been taken out by the Future Farmers of America, who both outnumbered and outgunned me.
This is as it should be.
Given the state statute, the principal at a private school would be in the same legal box.
"Once the child has a substance he has claimed is an illegal drug, how is the principal supposed to verify that it is indeed powdered sugar? "
In a totalitarian regime where laws are structured so as to revoke common sense as a tool for principal determinations, the principal shall not challenge the veracity of the child's statement: "it is a drug." In a totalitarian regime, the principal is required by law to call the police so the police (the one and only true totalitarian authority) can determine the veracity of the child's statement...then naturally, in a totalitarian regime, the child is punished whether it was a drug or simply Dixie Crystal from grand ma's pantry. This is done in a totalitarian regime in order to socially engineer the behaviors of other children who might consider playing such a silly little game while attending public schools.
Anyone of right mind knows that in a totalitarian regime, there is zero tolerance for child's play especially in public schools.
Determined by who and how? Do schools have drug testing kits? Should taxpayers fund these?
Why test at the school? The kid already broke the look-alike drug school policy and state statute. The substance can be tested at the police station, and the kid re-charged if it turns out to be positive for cocaine.
Be careful. There's a heavy spring on our door, so don't let it hit you in the a$$ on your way out.
The kids would have more rights and better treatment at GITMO.
Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? said Dr. Ferris. We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.
"This falls under the statute of "look-alike" drugs because that is how he presented it to his friends. Had he showed the sugar to his friends and said "this is sugar for a Science experiment" there would have been no punishment.
The title is misleading. He was in trouble not for bringing sugar, but for bringing a product and claiming it was a drug."
But the handbook bans "look-alike drugs", not verbal statements about sugar being coke.
If the authorities can't stop the trafficking of drugs, the solution in their minds it to arrest those who posess things that "look" like drugs.
This is like suspending kids for drawing a picture of a gun in school and then arresting them for posession of a gun, or drawing a picture of a plane flying into a building and suspending them for having terrorist ideas.
Symbolism over substance.
The incompetence of the authorities to stop real crime.
Arrest people for the appearance of crime.
that is truly amazing!
i didn't think even schools could come up with a policy that banned water.
Which explains perfectly why society simply MUST charge this 12 year old boy with a FELONY and place him on probation until he's 18.
Good grief. Death of common sense indeed.
"You forgot to call police officers Nazis and statists. You're slipping"
actually, i don't call police "nazis" or "statists".
i was really making fun of the guy defending the school policy, not making fun of the police, who probably think the policy is ridiculous.
The time to figure out how you're going to get the tools is before you make the rules, not after someone violates them.
check out post #149--apparently a school really did ban water because it looked like alcohol.
what can I say?
don't they have lab tests that differentiate marijuana from oregano?
there is also something called a "chain of evidence".
Dont worry I wont but even if it does I got plenty of padding to keep me from being injured :-) I would advise you to get out while the getting is good also.If you know anything about history(Wich I doubt seeing as how you are supporting the exact same prohibition against drugs that utterly failed against alchohol) you will know that the people that help communist/fascists/dictators get into power are the first to get imprisoned or exacuted once they are in because the people that get them into power are the ones that are the biggest threat to take them back out of power.Just ask any of the people that got lenin into power in 1917 a vast majority were dead or in gulags by 1918 or ask any of hitlers backers the same thing within a year they were dead or in prisons and so on and so forth from mao to casto pol pot saddam ect.You are a major help in getting the country to turn into a fascist regime with your vocal and probable finacial support of these totalitarian laws once the feds can finally get rid of the constitution as token governing document in this country they will turn there wrath on you first in case you lose favor with them and work as hard to get them out of power as you now are getting them in.
that's a great quotation. what book is it from?
Ayn Rand -- Atlas Shrugged
Then perhaps the child should not lie about what is in the bag? He has some responsibility here.
Then perhaps the child should not lie about what is in the bag? He has some responsibility here.
When did it become a felony to lie?
When you say that a substance is an illegal drug. At that point, a felony has been committed.
I prefer teaching at the Catholic school the best. My only complaint involves class size. 35 6th graders is a bit much. My least favorite was the Christian school. The kid were out of control and the principal was powerless to change anything. I taught one year and left. I may teach at a local Lutheran school in the near future. Waiting to see how things turn out.
I have never been a member of the NEA or an offshoot of the NEA.
I am proudly conservative and teach in that way. Where I draw my current salary from at this moment has no more bearing on this conversation than does your employment.
Another example of gross institutionalized child abuse.
The problem is that our society has given up on being responsible. No longer do they weigh each problem that comes to them and make decisions. They prepare cause and effect lists and point to them when anyone asks "what should we do". That way, nobody can blame them. Cowards. Our society is rolling over and peeing on itself.
"BY JUSTINA WANG: In another breaking news item, the Aurora Chief of Police was arrested by Federal DEA agents for possession and distribution of mass quantities of drug delivery vehicles heavily coated with a look-alike drug."
"Although his attorney claims that the evidence was planted, Federal authorities say they have forensic evidence that clearly connects the Aurora Chief of Police to the alleged crime."
""hey judge, I know the undercover cop busted me for selling him a bag of dope, but it wasn't dope . . . it was oregano.""
What part of "He was not selling it" don't you understand?
2. i was really making fun of the guy defending the school policy, not making fun of the police
Easy. If there is no one in athority at the shcool who has been trained to know the difference between sugar and cocaine then you have a police officer stop by and check it out. The police do not need to arrest someone everytime they perform a comunity service. Our entire culture is being removed from common sense by those who are going to be the finger pointers in our brave new world.
"We are truly in trouble if our teachers and school administrators are too stupid to tell the difference between cocaine and sugar."
Yes? So tell me, how do YOU tell the difference? What experience do you have with cocaine? Why would you think teachers and adminstrators would have sufficient experience to be able to tell one powery white substance from antoher?
Use your head for something besides a hatrack, okay?
"Should taxpayers fund these?"
No- I think they should deduct the cost of these from your social security check.
Another one of many poor reasons why this is happening. Thanks.
Geez old student, a rather uncalled for rude response to a fellow freeper who is actually expressing the obvious idiocy of the schools admins. Why the overboard asinine attitude?
LOL! Do you live in Oregon? I only had to show my driver's license and sign an acknowledgment to get my Sudafed a couple weeks ago - all while the pharmacist grumbled how insanely stupid this whole process was.
I live in NM, but this insanity is everywhere.
Wonder why you can't buy "strike anywhere" matches anymore? Same reason.
The reasons the pharmacists are mad is that this crap adds to their work load and makes them even more of a target than they already are.
One of these days, someone with a crushing headache who has already had a bad day will go postal on a pharmacist asking for ID. The pharmacists can see it coming.
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