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Boy charged with felony for carrying sugar
suntimes ^ | February 11, 2006

Posted on 02/11/2006 4:11:34 PM PST by Revel

Boy charged with felony for carrying sugar

BY JUSTINA WANG A 12-year-old Aurora boy who said he brought powdered sugar to school for a science project this week has been charged with a felony for possessing a look-alike drug, Aurora police have confirmed.

The sixth-grade student at Waldo Middle School was also suspended for two weeks from school after showing the bag of powdered sugar to his friends.

The boy, who is not being identified because he is a juvenile, said he brought the bag to school to ask his science teacher if he could run an experiment using sugar.

Two other boys asked if the bag contained cocaine after he showed it to them in the bathroom Wednesday morning, the boy's mother said.

He joked that it was cocaine, before telling them, "just kidding," she said.

Aurora police arrested the boy after a custodian at the school reported the boy's comments. The youngster was taken to the police station and detained, before being released to his parents that afternoon.

"This is getting ridiculous," said the boy's mother. "They treated my son like a criminal. .. . This is no way to treat a 12-year-old kid."

East Aurora School District officials declined to comment on the case, citing privacy issues.

The district issued a written statement, which said: "The dangers of illegal drugs and controlled substances are clear.

Could get probation "Look-alike drugs and substances can cause that same level of danger because staff and students are not equipped to differentiate between the two."

The school handbook states that students can be suspended or expelled for carrying a look-alike drug.

Penalties for juveniles are decided on a case-by-case basis, but if convicted, the sixth-grader could likely face up to five years' probation, said Jeffery Jefko, deputy director of Kane County juvenile court services.

Juveniles who have prior criminal records could also be placed in a residential treatment program if convicted, he said.

Aurora Beacon-News


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To: Revel

"Could get probation "Look-alike drugs and substances can cause that same level of danger because staff and students are not equipped to differentiate between the two."

Is it going to jump out of the bag and bite them? What danger? Don't answer that, bureaucrats can make anything dangerous when they want to manipulate behaviour.


51 posted on 02/11/2006 5:28:46 PM PST by dljordan
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To: ohhhh
Probably one o dem der white red neck boys the feminazi school authorities hate and desire to subdue.

...And not good looking enough to be the teachers' boy toy.

52 posted on 02/11/2006 5:34:42 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: ApplegateRanch
My guess is that it falls under the Illinois Controlled Substances Act, 720 ILCS 570/404(b), unlawful distribution of a look-alike substance.

"It is unlawful for any person knowingly to manufacture, distribute, advertise, or possess with intent to manufacture or distribute a look‑alike substance. Any person who violates this subsection (b) shall be guilty of a Class 3 felony, the fine for which shall not exceed $150,000."

My guess is that they'll drop this to a 404(c):

"It is unlawful for any person knowingly to possess a look‑alike substance. Any person who violates this subsection (c) is guilty of a petty offense. Any person convicted of a subsequent offense under this subsection (c) shall be guilty of a Class C misdemeanor."

53 posted on 02/11/2006 5:36:20 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Verginius Rufus
How can something that is not a drug (sugar) be a "look-alike drug"? Don't these people have a basic grasp of the English language, or was that leeched out of them in education classes?

By their definition, a bag of dark dog crap could be a "look-alike drug" for Black Tar Heroin!

Time for all parents to pull their kids from these schools...withhold their taxes for "education funding", and remove each and every one of these proto-Marxists from ANY semblance of power and authority!

54 posted on 02/11/2006 5:38:21 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: robertpaulsen
Now, powdered sugar in a baggie looks like a drug, especially after joking that it was cocaine. That is against written school policy.

But how is it that possession of sugar, or any of the various other foods that look like dope, becomes a felony?

55 posted on 02/11/2006 5:38:46 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: drhogan
"but does the school handbook define "look-alike drug"? "

Geez Louise. The kid's got powdered sugar in a baggie. He says it's coke. How much more look-alike can it be?

"i suspect a good lawyer could argue that the policy is unclear, vague, overly general, and enforced in an arbitrary or discriminatory manner."

I suspect he could try.

56 posted on 02/11/2006 5:43:10 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Revel

"Look-alike drugs and substances can cause that same level of danger because staff and students are not equipped to differentiate between the two."

But abortion and pre-marital sex is just fine to encourage at school.

Our Founding Fathers would be ashamed of what we have become.


57 posted on 02/11/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Revel

I did this with a bag of confectionary sugar when I was 7... I told a neighbor girl that it was cocaine... Her dad came over and started screaming at my dad... My dad told him that it was harmless sugar and that it was only a joke... My dad laughed and told the guy to get a life and move on...

The felony is total bs...


58 posted on 02/11/2006 5:44:38 PM PST by ARA
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To: Revel
The district issued a written statement, which said: "The dangers of illegal drugs and controlled substances are clear.

The legacy of Bill Bennett - zealot freakazoids at the mention of a drug - even if its aspirin or sugar

Now if he'd thrown it at the principal, shouting, "ANTHRAX!"...
59 posted on 02/11/2006 5:45:21 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: elkfersupper
"So, if it becomes against school policy for people to breathe, you would probably advocate that people stop doing that?"

The best time for arguing in favor of breathing is before it becomes school policy, not after you violate it. This way, you see, you have more credibility.

60 posted on 02/11/2006 5:46:12 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Revel
It would be one thing if he was selling it. But this is just crazy.

lazy reporting....no mention if he has past occurences of getting in trouble.

61 posted on 02/11/2006 5:46:47 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: BlazingArizona
"But how is it that possession of sugar, or any of the various other foods that look like dope, becomes a felony?"

See my post #53.

62 posted on 02/11/2006 5:49:18 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Revel
The district issued a written statement, which said: "The dangers of illegal drugs and controlled substances are clear.

The dangers of river-rock dumb adults in charge of minor children are now even MORE clear.

63 posted on 02/11/2006 5:51:19 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: robertpaulsen
"It is unlawful for any person knowingly to possess a look‑alike substance. Any person who violates this subsection (c) is guilty of a petty offense. Any person convicted of a subsequent offense under this subsection (c) shall be guilty of a Class C misdemeanor."

Well, then everybody had better get rid of their powdered sugar, oregano, lawn clippings etc. or better yet get rid of this stupid government and the paranoid freaks who elected it. Maybe it should take a 4/5 vote to pass new laws. That would take it out of the hands of the dumbest 80%.
64 posted on 02/11/2006 5:57:00 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: robertpaulsen

I guess all the pastry chefs in the state are in BIG trouble.


65 posted on 02/11/2006 6:00:10 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: robertpaulsen
The best time for arguing in favor of breathing is before it becomes school policy, not after you violate it. This way, you see, you have more credibility.

Absolutely amazing. Sorry I asked.

66 posted on 02/11/2006 6:01:24 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: robertpaulsen

We saw it. We just didn't believe it. Perfect opportunity for contempt of court, legislature, governor and law in general.


67 posted on 02/11/2006 6:01:56 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Revel

yup. kids are silly.
My son took sugar to school in ziploc baggies to "eat" for lunch. He was about 13 and did it to be a dufus.
One day the "baggie" fell out of his book bag in class and he almost got the same rap as this kid. Luckily the vice principal had some sense...believed his story...gave him a stern talking to and called his parents...we discussed what COULD have happened.
He's 15 1/2 now and still does stooopid stuff....he thinks about consequences about 10% of the time - we're making progress.


68 posted on 02/11/2006 6:03:13 PM PST by MudPuppy (Another Day ~ Another Adventure!)
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To: robertpaulsen

then they should ban water because it looks like vodka.

and cola looks a little too much like scotch.

i'm not saying that powdered sugar doesn't look like coke (i don't know if it does or not.) i'm saying that the term "look-alike drug" is pretty broad and pretty meaningless.
if a student says to another student (who is drinking water), "that looks like vodka", should the second student be arrested?
is the illegal substance something that looks like a drug, or something that someone says is a drug, or what? the quotation from the handbook did not make this clear.


69 posted on 02/11/2006 6:09:43 PM PST by drhogan
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To: Born Conservative; DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; StarCMC; Coleus; Tired of Taxes; KylaStarr; Cindy; ...

Could get probation "Look-alike drugs and substances can cause that same level of danger because staff and students are not equipped to differentiate between the two."

The school handbook states that students can be suspended or expelled for carrying a look-alike drug.




Now, let me add to what these charges could be for. Yes, I pinged my Agri list too. This school lunch program iniative is from the same program NAIS is and the money is being funneled through the USDA.

There is now a program being filtered into our governmental offices called Healthy People 2010. One of the focuses of this program is Mandatory School Lunch Program.

Whether we like the school lunches or not, it is not for the NGOs/UN to be throwing money at this problem and applying their terms and conditions with agents sent in for auditing.

The Mandatory School Lunch program makes sugar type foods illegal and enforcable to the full extent of the law.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts
Healthy People 2010

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1561077/posts
Animal Tagging and SCHOOL LUNCHES???


70 posted on 02/11/2006 6:10:30 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: robertpaulsen

Every grocery store in the state which sells powdered sugar is in violation of this law. Why aren't all the grocery store owners locked up as felons?


71 posted on 02/11/2006 6:11:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: robertpaulsen

A look-like drug is a drug.

A drug look-alike is a non-drug that looks like a drug.

The policy as quoted said no look-alike drugs.


72 posted on 02/11/2006 6:12:25 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: robertpaulsen

It's unlawful to sell powdered sugar?


73 posted on 02/11/2006 6:14:24 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Revel; Calpernia

added zero tolerance to the keywords.

damn,we used to make gun powder in chemistry class. i guess if we did that today i would be in jail. we used to play with mercury too which is taboo today.


74 posted on 02/11/2006 6:14:42 PM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: robertpaulsen

so it is illegal to possess powdered sugar? why aren't they arresting all the bakers?


75 posted on 02/11/2006 6:14:54 PM PST by drhogan
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To: robertpaulsen
Thanks. Sounds like the drug equivalent of 'hate crimes'.

Too bad there isn't a statute making it a felony for a politician to impersonate or attempt to impersonate a person with a brain.
76 posted on 02/11/2006 6:17:00 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mad-Mo! Allah bin Satan commands ye: Bow to him 5 times/day: Head down, @ss-up, and fart at Heaven!)
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To: Coleus

These privacy issues are getting scary too.

The schools aren't even obliged to comment to parents on many issues.

Yet, when they sign on for these NGO funded programs, they sign a Freedom of Information Act release.

So the United Nations gets any data they want.


77 posted on 02/11/2006 6:17:19 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Revel
Could get probation "Look-alike drugs and substances can cause that same level of danger because staff and students are not equipped to differentiate between the two."

Someone calling cocaine sugar could cause damage, but not vice versa. These folks at school are the epitome of morons.
78 posted on 02/11/2006 6:17:33 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ApplegateRanch

Then we'd have to lock up nearly all of Congress if that were the law.


79 posted on 02/11/2006 6:17:53 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: muawiyah
We are truly in trouble if our teachers and school administrators are too stupid to tell the difference between cocaine and sugar. Worse than 'trouble' here. . .truly frightening the mentality of the Educational 'collective' here; and their determination to criminalize a misunderstanding. . .not theirs, of course. . .but rather, the child's.


80 posted on 02/11/2006 6:18:08 PM PST by cricket ( a)
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To: gogogodzilla

Bingo. There are tons of packets of look-alike coke in the teachers lounge. (Heck, there's apparently a whole lot of real stuff too...)


81 posted on 02/11/2006 6:19:51 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Revel
As my ex wife just said...

He's in possession of a deadly weapon. What if he gave that sugar to a diabetic and killed him?
82 posted on 02/11/2006 6:21:50 PM PST by birbear (You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
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To: darkangel82
Then we'd have to lock up nearly all of Congress if that were the law.

Q. "Congressman, what do you say to the rumors circulating that many high government officals are partaking of illegal drugs, including cocaine?"

A. "I don't believe a WORD of it," he snorted.

Cheers!

83 posted on 02/11/2006 6:22:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Where's your little sidekick Mojave? lol

Seriously, though, you two make me chuckle. Sometimes I think you guys actually believe some of the things you are arguing. You guys are like kids with your fingers in the dike trying to prop up your failed war on some drugs.

You are actually for nailing a kid for the posession of sugar. That's just awesome.
84 posted on 02/11/2006 6:22:27 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Mojave

Hey, paulsen is here defending the state tossing a kid in the clink for posession of a bag of sugar! He needs your help. This is a real lollertrain. Please post something, I need more funny!


85 posted on 02/11/2006 6:24:12 PM PST by mysterio
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To: drhogan

ok, suppose my kid puts REAL cocaine on a donut and takes it to school. then, the next day, your kid takes a donut with powdered sugar to school and sells it (without knowing what my kid did, and without saying anything about cocaine). is your kid committing a felony?
according to the law and the handbook (which focus on what the substance looks like, and intent to distribute, etc, but not on statements pertaining to what the substance is), it looks like it's a felony.


86 posted on 02/11/2006 6:24:30 PM PST by drhogan
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To: Revel

When sugar is outlawed, only outlaws will have sugar


87 posted on 02/11/2006 6:26:01 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (God is always invented to explain those things that you do not understand. - Richard Feynman)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Personally, I prefer splenda. I'm not sure what it's street value is, though.


88 posted on 02/11/2006 6:27:35 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Willie Green
I don't know what the kid was up to, but I'm not buying that story about asking the science teacher if he could use it either.
The little turd was up to something.

Yeah, he was going to trade the "sugar/cocaine" for oral sex ;-)

89 posted on 02/11/2006 6:28:01 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Revel

The night watchman: I been with the railroad 30 years and never a blot against my record.

Officer: The yard cop seems to think you made a deal not to see that car broken into.

The night watchman: Well what kind of sense does that make? Is sugar a rare cargo? Is there a black market for it? Didya ever hear of a fence for hot sugar? If I was gonna make a deal with crooks to steal somethin' wouldn't be 40 tons of sugar, and I swear I didn't hear a thing Friday night...

90 posted on 02/11/2006 6:28:41 PM PST by null and void (<---- Aged to perfection, and beyond...)
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To: birbear

Make as much sense as if the kid gave a parsnip to a diabetic ~ blow your blood sugar level through the roof Fur Shur!


91 posted on 02/11/2006 6:29:33 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: mysterio

i think he left to accompany the police on a major bust of a donut shop.
talk about look-alike substances with intent to distribute!
i was wondering why i couldn't find any donuts last time i drove thru illinois. i'm glad they locked up all those dealers.
starbucks is next.


92 posted on 02/11/2006 6:31:20 PM PST by drhogan
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To: Revel

This is getting ridiculous," said the boy's mother. "( from the article)

Where is this boy's dad?


93 posted on 02/11/2006 6:32:20 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

too late--in illinois, only outlaws have sugar right now!


94 posted on 02/11/2006 6:32:40 PM PST by drhogan
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To: darkangel82
Then we'd have to lock up nearly all of Congress if that were the law.

You catch on quick!

OTOH, guys like Congressman Billybob would then, thankfully, be in charge.

Why I Am Running in 2006 ^

95 posted on 02/11/2006 6:32:50 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mad-Mo! Allah bin Satan commands ye: Bow to him 5 times/day: Head down, @ss-up, and fart at Heaven!)
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To: Hank Kerchief
They are not the least bit interested in the welfare of children, and certainly are not interested in educating them. ( Hank)

Hank,

This is another attempt to emasculate a boy. Geeze! I bet he doesn't have very positive feelings about attending school after this.

So....why are parents still doing this to their boys ( and girls).
96 posted on 02/11/2006 6:35:31 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Revel
True story....

I teach special education--primarily reading. 4 years ago, one of my little guys who in addition to having a reading problem ALSO had a behavior problem. He brings an Altoid box to school with a white powder in a baggie tucked inside. Also brought some extra baggies. He tells the others "psst, I got some coke, wanna buy?" So the deal goes down in the restroom with about 4 kids.

The guidance counselor happens to walk in at the right moment and sees a bag exchange hands--the whole group goes to the office. Turns out the kid had a mixture of powdered and regular sugar.

Of course, everyone is suspended, but the mother of this kid decides to fight the suspension on the basis that her son had a disability and couldn't read well. (Actually, he read pretty well when I gave him materials with about a 24-28 font hmmmmm)

So we are at a meeting and the mother makes this statement. "I believe that this is a result of D----'s reading disability." And I being the consumate smart ass say, "What? you have 2 canisters on your counter, one marked cocaine and one marked sugar and he grabbed the wrong one?"

My principal would have cheerfully killed me on the spot, but I didn't and still don't care. Her claim was ridiculous.

As an aftermath, I was asked to leave the meeting for my "unproductive" comment and his actions were found to not be a result of his disability.

My principal still hates me though.

97 posted on 02/11/2006 6:36:05 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: mysterio
This is getting entirely unfunny.

Today, I had to show a passport, drivers license, proof of residence, social security card, sign an acknowledgement, and get a "designated package holder" to buy Sudafed.

98 posted on 02/11/2006 6:37:51 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
Absolutely amazing. Sorry I asked.

A rule is a rule is a rule is a rule

99 posted on 02/11/2006 6:40:45 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: drhogan

Time to raid the coffee pot and accessories (paraphenalia) in the teacher's lounge! Oops, that won't happen b/c the NEA would protect them.


100 posted on 02/11/2006 6:42:53 PM PST by Lawdoc
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