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Churches to mark Darwin's birthday (Tomorrow is 'Darwin Day'!)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 11 Feb 2006

Posted on 02/11/2006 5:52:00 PM PST by gobucks

NEW YORK -- Nearly 450 Christian churches around the country plan to celebrate the 197th birthday of Charles Darwin on Sunday with programs and sermons intended to emphasize that his theory of biological evolution is compatible with faith and that Christians have no need to choose between religion and science. "It's to demonstrate, by Christian leaders and members of the clergy, that you don't have to make that choice. You can have both," said Michael Zimmerman, dean of College of Letters and Sciences at University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh, who organized the event.

(snip) "Evolution Sunday" has drawn participation from a variety of denominational and non-denominational churches, including Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Unitarian, Congregationalist, United Church of Christ, Baptist and a host of community churches, including at least 16 congregations in Illinois.

The event grew out of Zimmerman's The Clergy Letter Project, another effort to dispel the perception among many Christians that faith and evolution are mutually exclusive.

..the project has drawn 10,000 Christian clerics to sign a letter that concludes, "We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth."

Zimmerman said the letter project and the Sunday event were designed to educate Americans about two things. "The first part was to demonstrate to the American public that the shrill fundamentalist voices that were demanding that people had to choose between religion and science were simply wrong," he said.

"The second part was to demonstrate that those fundamentalist leaders that keep standing up and shouting that you can't accept modern science were not speaking for the majority of Christian leaders in this country."

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To: Coyoteman
Which one?

Uh, This country was founded as a Christian nation, not a religious cafeteria. But we're so tolerant we allow you to worship this!

21 posted on 02/11/2006 6:29:22 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: fzx12345

By now, Darwin has recreated as a fish several times.


22 posted on 02/11/2006 6:30:54 PM PST by Thebaddog (Dog can like cats who are cool)
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To: gobucks
http://www.blackmask.com/Liberal_Arts/Charles_Darwin/more2.html

I am sure many people talking about Darwin have never read his book "Origin of Species".
Above URL is free and might give some insight.

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23 posted on 02/11/2006 6:37:52 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: gobucks

Darwin Day? Why not? Have it on a work day so we can all stay home and FReep. And while we're at it, since we had a crypto-Marxist day a week or two ago, why not celebrate the third godfather of the 20th century's atrocities with a Freud Day, also on a work day?


24 posted on 02/11/2006 6:45:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: PatrickHenry

My guess is 90% of these people voted for Kerry and hate George Bush. Just a hunch having had some exposure to these "clergy."


25 posted on 02/11/2006 7:00:57 PM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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To: Snowbelt Man

Yes, they are likely, though not necessarily, "wet" Christians....those who believe in, as C.S. Lewis put it, Christianity and water. Basically, Jesus as a philosopher and that's it...no miracles, no virgin birth, no resurrection.


26 posted on 02/11/2006 7:08:40 PM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
You forgot to use the full title of the book. You need to include "or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" is far too often left off the title. But that is the one that it was originally published with.

Who were the "not-favored" races...the Zulus that the British were fighting with, along with all of the other African tribes, and, of course, the Aborigines of Australia.

27 posted on 02/11/2006 7:43:24 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: LiteKeeper

In 1859, "race" and "species" were used somewhat interchangably. Darwin's work helped to refine the ideas. This led to the modern understanding that all present humans are of the same species.

Of course, you ignore the species that went extinct, possibly as a result of poor design and poor planning from the supposed "Intelligent Designer".


28 posted on 02/11/2006 8:03:49 PM PST by thomaswest (Labeling: My religion is the one true faith; yours is a cult.)
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To: gobucks

What is truth? Definitely not something of man. So how can there be scientific truth? There can't be.End of story.


29 posted on 02/11/2006 8:08:43 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
What is truth? Definitely not something of man. So how can there be scientific truth? There can't be.End of story.

Mankind has come up with some truths. One good example -- slavery is absolutely wrong.

Surely you can agree with that?

30 posted on 02/11/2006 8:14:45 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: gobucks


Richard Dawkins, Britain's greatest public intellectual, shown here in meditation, will address the church groups via satellite link. This reverses his long held position that he will not speak to or otherwise acknowledge the existence of people of faith.

His speech will address the attitude they should adopt in the presence of superior beings such as himself so as not to annoy or otherwise give offence. He hopes to be able to help them someday be accepted into sophisticated society, in dimminished circumstances, of course.

He attributes his change of heart to a powerful vision he had several months ago after falling down a flight of stairs. Both he and his wife are appalled by this turn of events, she to the extent of refusing him sex, meal preparation, washing his socks and underwear, and other creaturely comforts.

Although usually a strong-willed person - he has been dubbed "Darwin's Rottweiller" in a play on Huxley's "Darwin's bulldog"- he finds the urge to reach out irresistible and occasionally hears a voice commanding him to do so.

Although he has rejected psychotherapy on grounds there is no psyche, he has taken up Tantric meditiation and hired a masseuse (you know what I mean), a cook and laundress in hopes of restoring some degree of normalcy in his life.
31 posted on 02/11/2006 8:19:19 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; bondserv; plain talk; ...
(((Creationist Ping)))



You have been pinged because of your interest regarding matters of Creation vs. Evolution - from the Creationist perspective. Freep-mail me if you want on/off this list.

Colossians 1:16 "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him."



Reminder!

I'm guessing that no one here attends a church that does this, but I wouldn't sit for it if that's what they're going to do.
32 posted on 02/11/2006 8:42:59 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (I'm currently debating a big-time peace activist. I'll post it, so ping/mail me to read it when I do)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Me neither


33 posted on 02/11/2006 9:06:03 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: thomaswest

I reject your premise that "race" and "species" were interchangable. Any evidence of the same?


34 posted on 02/11/2006 9:10:44 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: goodnesswins; gobucks
What a boob.....I don't think anyone is "demanding that people had to choose between religion and science"....they are demanding a PLACE at the TABLE (in school) FOR RELIGION. SHEESH. (see my tagline)

A PLACE at the TABLE or A SEAT in the PEW (in Church)? (see my tagline)

36 posted on 02/11/2006 9:20:14 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken. That's Cobb County, Georgia)
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To: PatrickHenry

It would be interesting to know how many are named Steve.


37 posted on 02/11/2006 9:27:30 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Verginius Rufus
It would make more sense to celebrate Thomas Alva Edison's birthday (Feb. 11) since Edison's contributions to the modern world are of a more practical character than Darwin's.

It would make sense for those of you that are already in
bed because electric lights and electricity don't exist.

There would still be a very ugly and very vocal minority
protesting against Edison because something as intricate
as a motion picture projector could not have been invented
by a human without supernatural intervention.

38 posted on 02/11/2006 9:40:47 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken. That's Cobb County, Georgia)
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To: taxesareforever; Gunslingr3
What is truth? Definitely not something of man. So how can there be scientific truth? There can't be.End of story.

Tell me about it. That Darwin was a madman, theorizing that creatures that do things better over time are more successful. And the very idea that things change over time! Shocking! One has only to look at a tree or a human being to know that everything is static.

It's much more likely that the Almighty Creator of the Universe would choose to reveal himself by magically impregnating a virgin with Himself so he could commit ritualistic suicide to set an example for all of us.

39 posted on 02/11/2006 9:40:52 PM PST by Jonathon Spectre (Nazis believed they were doing good.)
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To: LiteKeeper

I do not believe you have ever read his book.


40 posted on 02/11/2006 9:41:39 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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